I know, you'll tell me to get a Provari... BUT...!

[Katya]

I'm not familiar with Smoov Rev batteries, but they look like just another eGo-C Twist clone/copy/lookalike. You may have gotten a bad battery--it happens. I have joyetech Twists and a Spinner and they are working just fine after months of usage...

 

[JJOOHHNN]

I have a Smoov Rev (don't know its rating, but it's decent size, so I'm guessing in the 1000 range) and a smaller Joyetech... 650, maybe?

The Joyetech has outlasted the Rev which is literally running on fumes (wokka wokka wokka)., but they both produce virtually no vapour at this point to the point of being frustrating to use.

I have no idea why, but I seem to crank through these things super quickly. The Rev, I was told when I bought it, should last 300 charges. I don't cycle more than once a day, and I maybe got a month out of it before it became intolerable to use (like it is now) which makes me want to get something better.

But if batteries are batteries, as you say, then I guess I just have to buy more of them. Dunno.

Batteries are not just batteries. There are differences in quality and chemistry.

 

[Novery]

I'm not familiar with Smoov Rev batteries, but they look like just another eGo-C Twist clone/copy/lookalike. You may have gotten a bad battery--it happens. I have Joyetech Twists and a Spinner and they are working just fine after months of usage...

Nah, this isn't just two batteries. I've been through six or seven of these things and I've only been vaping a few months. Either I'm doing something wrong, or my body carries an electrical charge is supposed to be used for my super-hero power, and I haven't figured out how to operate it just yet.

Batteries are not just batteries. There are differences in quality and chemistry.

So what's a good battery that'll last? (assuming the superhero thing doesn't pan out)

 

[Kaisen]

Batteries are not just batteries. There are differences in quality and chemistry.

Yeah, not really. At least not between Egos or what comes with a mod kit. They're all pretty much the same. I know there are people that will swear otherwise, but if you take apart any brand of Ego you'll see that they are all using the same cells.

When you get into $15-25 18xxx form batteries there are different chemistries based on the different original intended uses/industries. Heck 18650s are used in laptops, medical devices, and Telsa electric cars!

 

[Kaisen]

Nah, this isn't just two batteries. I've been through six or seven of these things and I've only been vaping a few months. Either I'm doing something wrong, or my body carries an electrical charge is supposed to be used for my super-hero power, and I haven't figured out how to operate it just yet.

Are you charging them only when they are completely dead?
Are you charging them using the manufacturer's supplied adapter and wall charger?
Are you even using a wall charger or simply your computer's USB port or 12V car charger?

 

[Kristin0624]

Batteries store energy. As you vape, they all get depleted and need to be recharged. Nature of the beast.

My mini ProVari uses a 700 mAh battery and lasts about the same time as my 650 mAh eGo-C Twist.

One thing to note, if no one else did, is that the provari will vape the same from beginning to end of charge. Might not last much longer, but won't choke out on a half charged battery like others.

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[Katya]

Nah, this isn't just two batteries. I've been through six or seven of these things. Either I'm doing something wrong, or my body carries an electrical charge is supposed to be used for my super-hero power, and I haven't figured out how to operate it just yet.

That may be your problem right there.

Seriously, I can't see what you can be doing wrong. If the batteries are properly charged, they should work between charges. Period.

Is your charger OK?

Oh, and another thing--those Li-Ion batteries don't like to be completely discharged--if you top them off frequently you will prolong their life.

 

[Katya]

One thing to note, if no one else did, is that the provari will vape the same from beginning to end of charge. Might not last much longer, but won't choke out on a half charged battery like others.

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I've never had a battery choke off. My VV eGos keep constant voltage... If I set them at 4v, I get 4 volts throughout the cycle. Unregulated batteries will slowly lose their voltage; they start at 4.2v fresh off the charger, then quickly go down to 3.7v before finally cutting off at 3.2 or 3.1v.

 

[Novery]

if you buy the provari mini you only have to buy it once ...just sayin

Yeah, the device -- but not the batteries. I couldn't care less if the device gives BJs and makes candy floss. If it doesn't hold a charge, it does me no good, and as this thread progresses, it sounds like the battery is what I have problems with rather than the device, so a Provari doesn't do me any good at all here, unless I'm mistaken.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Yeah, not really. At least not between Egos or what comes with a mod kit. They're all pretty much the same. I know there are people that will swear otherwise, but if you take apart any brand of Ego you'll see that they are all using the same cells.

When you get into $15-25 18xxx form batteries there are different chemistries based on the different original intended uses/industries. Heck 18650s are used in laptops, medical devices, and Telsa electric cars!

I promise you, there are differences in quality of batteries. Ego's might all be using the same battery, I don't know if they are or not but there are differences in batteries besides just chemistry.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Yeah, the device -- but not the batteries. I couldn't care less if the device gives BJs and makes candy floss. If it doesn't hold a charge, it does me no good, and as this thread progresses, it sounds like the battery is what I have problems with rather than the device, so a Provari doesn't do me any good at all here, unless I'm mistaken.

Your charger might be the problem.

 

[Kaisen]

One thing to note, if no one else did, is that the provari will vape the same from beginning to end of charge. Might not last much longer, but won't choke out on a half charged battery like others.

Kinda true. It will maintain the requested output voltage until it simply can't.....you've requested 3.7 volts and the battery only has 3.6v then it shuts off. For someone trying to quit a smoking habit, a weak vape is better than no vape.....the craving might take them right to the next gas station to buy analogs.

Again, I'm not trying to bash mods or Provaris, but being a new member section some things need to be dissected before they're taken as truths.

 

[Kaisen]

I promise you, there are differences in quality of batteries. Ego's might all be using the same battery, I don't know if they are or not but there are differences in batteries besides just chemistry.

Cut apart a couple dead Egos (any brand) and you'll find out. There are other differences in quality of brands, but not the battery cells.

 

[Novery]

Are you charging them only when they are completely dead?
Are you charging them using the manufacturer's supplied adapter and wall charger?
Are you even using a wall charger or simply your computer's USB port or 12V car charger?

By completely dead, do you mean waiting for the light to blink and tell me it's out of juice? Yes, typically I don't charge until that happens. Is that a mistake?

I use the Joyetech adapter plugged into a wall, which has a USB connector for both the Joyetech and teh Revv. The one that came with the Revv looks like it was bought off some cheap-... website in a island country near Philippines that neither of us have ever heard of, so I figured the Joytech was the better bet.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Kinda true. It will maintain the requested output voltage until it simply can't.....you've requested 3.7 volts and the battery only has 3.6v then it shuts off. Where some Egos will continue to try at 3.5v, 3.3v, etc. They may actually "last" longer although with diminished output. For someone trying to quit a smoking habit, a weak vape is better than no vape.....the craving might take them right to the next gas station to buy analogs.

Again, I'm not trying to bash mods or Provaris, but being a new member section some things need to be dissected before they're taken as truths.

Maybe I am misreading what you meant but several devices have boost and buck.

 

[stillnotsmoking]

Here's a small mod that might suit you

http://www.gotvapes.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1830

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[JJOOHHNN]

Cut apart a couple dead Egos (any brand) and you'll find out. There are other differences in quality of brands, but not the battery cells.

The eGo's might all have the same battery. There is a difference in quality of have batteries however. The eGo might have all the same quality of battery in them, I don't know what they put in them but cells are of varying quality.

 

[alisa1970]

By completely dead, do you mean waiting for the light to blink and tell me it's out of juice? Yes, typically I don't charge until that happens. Is that a mistake?

I use the Joyetech adapter plugged into a wall, which has a USB connector for both the Joyetech and teh Revv. The one that came with the Revv looks like it was bought off some cheap-... website in a island country near Philippines that neither of us have ever heard of, so I figured the Joytech was the better bet.

It's better for battery life to charge daily even if it's not dead. I know you're not "supposed" to do this but I charge mine before I go to bed. If you have a backup it's easier to charge for 4 hours or so during the day.

Topping off the battery will help it last longer, and you'll get more consistent vapor because you never get to the point where the battery is struggling to supply the power you need.

 

[Novery]

Here's a small mod that might suit you
NEW Rider ROBUST 14500 Variable Voltage 3.0-6.0v - Blue CAMO [gv-ROBUST14500-BlueCAMO] - $49.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

Yup, that's perfect. Unfortunately, not in stock. Know any other suppliers?

As an aside -- I still don't get it. What do mods do that eGos can't?

 

[Kaisen]

By completely dead, do you mean waiting for the light to blink and tell me it's out of juice? Yes, typically I don't charge until that happens. Is that a mistake?

I use the Joyetech adapter plugged into a wall, which has a USB connector for both the Joyetech and teh Revv. The one that came with the Revv looks like it was bought off some cheap-... website in a island country near Philippines that neither of us have ever heard of, so I figured the Joytech was the better bet.

Perhaps try larger mAh batteries (900+), and a few of them. Rotate them so they don't get to the point where they blink before you've swapped to another. Not only might they last longer, but with a few to rotate through it won't bother you as much.

Even though I said the battery cells are the same (the guts inside), I'm still a firm believer that the better brand names have their QC act together better than the knockoffs. In my experience, the difference in purchase price can be marginal if you're willing or able to do your homework.

Using the wall charger is best. And I know what you mean about the quality of some of the components, lol.