I mixed my first flavor today

[baby driver]

Nothing exciting. Just tried to make peach.

First, I made a base of 8 parts 24 mg VG and 1 part VG to get to about 20 mg. Added a little vodka because it was thick.

I tested ratios in a little container & vaped to taste them. Just about got high on all the test vaping, but saved me from making any huge mistakes.

Using the base (this is all approximate because I am just learning) - I used about 22 ml base, about 3-4 ml of 18 mg tobacco PG flavor, and two eyedropper drops of Lorann's peach. (Wow that flavoring is strong!)

It is really good, and I am happy about it. It is almost 100% VG and I like it. Seems smoother than the PG and I still get plenty of vapor and throat hit.

It seems a little stronger than what I am used to (about 20 mg), but that could be all the test vaping getting to me.

I used the e-mixing calculator as best I could, and relied on some really rusty math.

This is fun!

Thank you all for your contributions to this forum which helped me so much and inspires me.

 

[Maveric]

Better watch out! The next thing you know you will be sitting for hours with bowls, droppers and little bottles of stuff, just like a mad scientist. Ohhh wait... that is me!

The e-juice calculator is great, even though it seems like I end up with a end quantity less than the calc says. As long as the ratios are correctly done, you can pinpoint the exact nic content you want. I wish I could use VG, but the kind I got doesn't agree with me, so mine is pretty thin, but great flavor and throat hit.

 

[baby driver]

I made a really bad mix yesterday (which I have named "S*** Warmed Over", saving it in case it can be salvaged later when I am smarter.

Today I made an interesting mix with pumpkin, pineapple and almond.

Basic recipe is
5 parts(1) Base
1 part(1) tobacco pre-mixed

then to make the flavor ("parts" are MUCH smaller):
5 parts(2) TINY drops pumpkin
4 parts(2) TINY drops pineapple
4 parts(2) TINY drops almond

The TINY drops were with a 1ml insulin syringe.

I can't relate it to anything I have tasted, but the pineapple and pumpkin spices stand out together with a little almond finish. It might be the cloves, but it has an almost menthol feel to the throat hit. I am not a menthol fan and there is no actual menthol in here, but, as I said, it is interesting.

I am finding with the Lorann's flavorings, the tiny drops are much easier to deal with.

Fun stuff!

In case anyone is wondering, I accidentally got an oz. of pumpkin at Lorann's instead of a dram so I have been hoping to find something to use it in. It has all the pumpkin pie spices, so they really beef up the flavor.

 

[baby driver]

I think I might have been wrong about the size of my bottles, thus the amount of base. I am not sure if I am using 10ml or 15ml bottles. Wish they were marked. Anyway, take my beginning recipes with a big grain of salt -- just as ideas perhaps, not exact yet.

Learning,

 

[Flitzanu]

just my 2c, there's no reason to make 10ml mixes just to try. i would highly recommend resetting the calculator for 1ml or 2ml quantity, otherwise you're just wasting a lot of material to find out you don't like the flavor you've just made.

 

[MaxUT]

In case anyone is wondering, I accidentally got an oz. of pumpkin at Lorann's instead of a dram so I have been hoping to find something to use it in.

Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas... hmmmm, what's something that all these occaisions have in common?

 

[MaxUT]

Here's a tasty recipe:

Raspberry Cheesecake

3.8ml 24mg VG nic base
4 drops PG
14 drops Capella Raspberry flavor (use slightly less if substituting LorAnns)
6 drops LorAnn Cheesecake flavor

Yields 5ml of 20mg juice.

Flavor percentage is 20% ( I likes me some flavor )

 

[baby driver]

just my 2c, there's no reason to make 10ml mixes just to try. i would highly recommend resetting the calculator for 1ml or 2ml quantity, otherwise you're just wasting a lot of material to find out you don't like the flavor you've just made.

Thank you, got some really tiny bottles today for that. Also, edited my second post to try to make it more recreatable if anyone wants to.

 

[baby driver]

Nothing exciting. Just tried to make peach.

First, I made a base of 8 parts 24 mg VG and 1 part VG to get to about 20 mg. Added a little vodka because it was thick.

I tested ratios in a little container & vaped to taste them. Just about got high on all the test vaping, but saved me from making any huge mistakes.

Using the base (this is all approximate because I am just learning) - I used about 22 ml base, about 3-4 ml of 18 mg tobacco PG flavor, and two eyedropper drops of Lorann's peach. (Wow that flavoring is strong!)

It is really good, and I am happy about it. It is almost 100% VG and I like it. Seems smoother than the PG and I still get plenty of vapor and throat hit.

It seems a little stronger than what I am used to (about 20 mg), but that could be all the test vaping getting to me.

I used the e-mixing calculator as best I could, and relied on some really rusty math.

This is fun!

Thank you all for your contributions to this forum which helped me so much and inspires me.

OK, can't edit this original post but since I made another batch I got a better idea of how to do it.

1 part tobacco flavored e-liquid
2 parts base
add Lorann's peach to taste (it was about 1/2 eyedropper per 10 ml for me -- but start slow and add till it gets right for you)

I love peach.

 

[baby driver]

Today I worked on the S*** Warmed Over batch. It was supposed to be coffee and almond but was too strong. I added a bunch of cream e-liquid to it, and now it is almost Kalhua. I think a couple drops of chocolate and possibly diluting it with some more base and it will be Kalhua.

Very glad about this as I was upset with ruining a whole batch - 10 ml.

 

[baby driver]

Continuing saga of my mad scientist's lab experiments with flavorings:

Tried making blackberry brandy -- not as good as the real thing, by far

Lorann's Vanilla Nut is very good. Her Keoke is not nearly as good as my Kalhua now perfected with a few drops of chocolate.

Today I got some Bickfords flavors. It does take a lot more flavoring than Lorann's. I may have to stop thinning the VG if I am going to add that much flavoring. I made Champagne. First by itself, which was very mild and very nice. Then smelled my various fruit flavors and decided to add a couple drops of orange cream (I guess that is a Mimosa). Very Good.

I can tell I am going to have a lot of fun with this.

 

[virgingoods]

First, Mimosa sounds great, and I will order ingredients immediately!

Today I finally had it all: Liquid Xpress naked 26 mg, NOW brand VG, and various Lorann's flavorings. First I tried the chocolate hazelnut, shooting for 18 mg juice with 15% flavor and, oh yeah, about 10% Bacardi white rum. Pretty yummy, but had to add more VG because the nic content seemed high. Strong enough to really taste; I like that. But my throat is a bit irritated (might it be the rum? or the Naked juice, which smells/tastes awfully chemically to me?).

Anyway, my problem is with the second batch. I made 2mls just as described above, using Lorann's coffee flavor. It is BLACK. I began to drip some on a newly washed cart and it looks awful! Have I done something wrong?

 

[baby driver]

There is a lot of talk about whether to use Lorann's coffee flavor because it is so dark. In my kalhua though, I found that it only took a drop or two to get A LOT of coffee flavor. So I think it OK as long as you take it easy on the amount you use. For Kalhua I used Lorann's coffee, 10 ml of pre-mixed cream, a couple drops of Lorann's almond, a couple drops of Lorann's chocolate, and about 15-20ml of premixed base (I used all VG, and the Cream was in PG). A few drops of vodka to get the consistency right. The fluid is about the color of soda or root beer. You can almost see through it. It is not dark and doesn't seem to hurt the atty. This flavor is strong and heavy like kalhua and is great for after dinner. The flavor does not seem to be absorbed by the VG as the lighter flavors can be.

Mimosa is highly recommended. I am surprised that none of the stores seem to offer it. It is very simple to make and SO light and tasty. This should be made as much as possible with VG, as it takes a lot of Bickford champagne to make enough flavor. Maybe another brand of champagne is more concentrated. Also, the VG absorbs this flavor for a day or two, so you will probably end up with double the flavor it takes to initially make a good flavor. It can end up really thin if not careful.

Let me know what you learn as you make these. I am just starting and am very interested in your experiences and ideas with this.

 

[baby driver]

Anyway, my problem is with the second batch. I made 2mls just as described above, using Lorann's coffee flavor. It is BLACK. I began to drip some on a newly washed cart and it looks awful! Have I done something wrong?

OOPS -- Oh yeah, about that, I am terrible at measuring and knowing what size bottle I am working with. Post above this is probably easier to follow and easier to get to what you want. That coffee is WAY strong flavor. You might try just using a small amount of what you have mixed to be the coffee part of a test batch, then use the rest when you get the ratios the way you want them.

I never have been a measuring cook -- pinch of this and drop of that. I guess it carries on into my e-liquid laboratory as well.

I was looking up champagne drinks and it looks like it would be good with almost any light fruit like pear or white grape or strawberry, but I'm not sure if those have a name. I guess you could call it Pear Mimosa or something.

Good luck working with my haphazard notes.

 

[virgingoods]

Wow, that is very helpful. When you say "cream", do you mean cream flavoring of some kind? I haven't run across that, but it sounds like a useful ingredient.

I prefer not to measure things either. ONce I gain some confidence, I will probably quit counting drops.

I will report on my results.

Thanks for your help!

 

[baby driver]

Wow, that is very helpful. When you say "cream", do you mean cream flavoring of some kind? I haven't run across that, but it sounds like a useful ingredient.

I prefer not to measure things either. ONce I gain some confidence, I will probably quit counting drops.

I will report on my results.

Thanks for your help!

Yes, many of the stores sell pre-mixed cream liquid. Also, some flavor stores have just the cream flavor. Flavourart.com has both cream and milk flavors. Haven't tried them yet, but they are on order.

Best,

 

[baby driver]

OK, today I made a lovely Pear Mimosa, here is the recipe for 15ml

9 ml VG base 20mg: made from 3 ml 60mg VG unflavored from Nhaler + 6 ml VG

3 full eyedropper squirts of champagne flavor Bickfords
1.5 eyedropper squirts of pear flavor Bickfords

15mg bottle is FULL.

Let sit for a couple hours

Deeeelicious.

May need to add more flavor tomorrow depending on how the flavor reacts with the VG, but this came out really good. You HAVE to use VG because of the amount of flavoring added. Total is probably closer to 12mg. You could make the base with 6ml unflavored nic + 3 ml VG to get closer to a 20mg total.

You can really use any mg base you want, just only use VG.

 

[baby driver]

OK, the pear flavor wouldn't hold up in the VG. Ended up adding peach and a couple drops of cinnamon. It is pretty good -- no name for flavor. The champagne flavor seems to hold up OK but mostly by the next day it just adds a lighter touch to the other flavors. This whole thing with the VG sucking up the lighter flavors is making it harder to deal with. Had to add some more 60mg unflavored to get a decent nic level back in there......... I ordered an oz of Lorann's champagne flavor, hope that works better than the bickfords.

Interested in more sites with concentrated flavors, please advise:
I have lorann's (the best, but not all flavors I want)
Bickfords, good but not very concentrated
Flavourart, on order, untried.

OTHERS???

 

[Moonflame]

Try Capella flavor drops. Not as concentrated as Lorann, but way stronger than Bickford. The flavors are very good with no chemical taste at all. I've got 17 of the flavors and I love them. Make sure you check out their deal page that has codes to get discounts.

 

[baby driver]

Thank you! I am going to look at Capella's now. EDIT: Looked at Capella's - very expensive for very small bottles. There are a few that interest me and I will keep looking. I think I won't get any more bickfords, as you say, it is too mild for my purposes.

Today I tried to make RY4+almond. I took about 4mgs RY4 + 2mg VG plain, added about 2/3 eyedropper each of almond and amaretto from Lorann's. Very good. The amaretto cuts the sharpness out of the almond and adds a slight orange cream flavor that is not bad -- really hard to notice.

I will be working with this one more as I have a bunch of RY4 and I love almond. MORE EDIT: After considering the tinge of orange flavor in the amaretto, I added just a couple drops of orange cream to this and it is heaven. It is now about 50/50 RY4+VG, then 50/50 mix of amaretto and almond flavors to taste, then a very few drops of orange cream. (all flavors are Lorann's and seem to be holding up in the VG (not losing their flavor).

The Mimosa flavor (Bickford champagne & Lorann's orange cream) is holding up well in the VG. Pear (Bickford) just disappears. I found champagne at Lorann's -- they must have been out for a while. So I will get that.