I Object...

[JoeMcPlumber]

...to the software automagically assigning the definition "Google Page Rank"
to the acronym "PR".
Upsets my sensibilities.

BTW i'm a Web Guy for a living and i've been working with forum software since it was invented,
and i've also run my share of forums.
I have references as to my talent and trustworthiness and i could help with all these little things like for instance
i don't think that the WYSIWYG on this forum really needs

 [code] and [html] tags, 
but i do think more smileys would be fun.

- joe

 

[rolygate]

OK Joe, tell me where to get the smileys you like then.

 

[JoeMcPlumber]

Well i was offering a great deal more than that,
but if that's all you want/need i have collections of them,
i'd have to find them all and zip them and put them somewhere.
Attached a few of my personal favs.

But IMHO no forum is complete without a dancing banana.

 

[rolygate]

What can I say Joe, not everyone gives away those banana thingies, we are just so grateful...

Oh and re. the other, well, it's noted. Thanks for the heads-up about the editor. But, the PR... Eh??

 

[JoeMcPlumber]

But, the PR... Eh??

From the source code of what you just said...

But, the <acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym>... Eh??

In Firefox and Opera the "PR" bit will have a dotted underline by default and will display "Google Page Ranking" in a tooltip on mouse hover.

In IE, Chrome, and Safari the acronym will display on hover but near as i can tell none of them display a dotted underline.

I can't get a copy of vBulletin just to play with but somewhere in the software you must be able to define acronyms to your liking, and this would be very handy for new members since we have our own unique set of acronyms and abbreviations for our hobby. For those browsers that don't display a text decoration by default some sort of hightlighting could be specified in the stylesheet.

Heh, i just used the

 tag.

Enjoy your banana!

- joe

 

[Timtam]

It's a 3rd party addon... should be editable via the vB options in the ACP. I agree, it is pretty annoying, it does it for JS and those sorts of things as well.

Also, I don't see why you'd want to remove the HTML, PHP and Code BBCodes, as they don't effect anything. You can't put any malicious things in there, as it doesn't actually run them, it displays the code.

EDIT: Lol, just noticed it does it for vB.

 

[Justin Credible]

I was going to say that I agreed with the "Dancing banana" statement, but now I feel as though that would just be... insufficient.

 

[JoeMcPlumber]

I agree, it is pretty annoying, it does it for JS and those sorts of things as well.

I was annoyed at its defaults. I think it'd be handy for our purposes.

Also, I don't see why you'd want to remove the HTML, PHP and Code BBCodes,

Cleanliness. It's next to Godliness.

It's just another remnant of geek-centric featurizing and in this context few of us are geeks and prone to say e.g.

if ( $pv == 'full' ) {
    echo "vape away";
} else {
    echo "bummer";
}

 

[Zofryer]

You web code guys are funny.

 

[Timtam]

I was annoyed at its defaults. I think it'd be handy for our purposes.


Cleanliness. It's next to Godliness.

It's just another remnant of geek-centric featurizing and in this context few of us are geeks and prone to say e.g.

if ( $pv == 'full' ) {
    echo "vape away";
} else {
    echo "bummer";
}

I have a feeling that the definitions are preset. It'd be extremely easy to edit them, though.

 

[Oliver]

Thanks Joe! I just found the acronym settings and I've added a whole load (and removed some)....

'vb' => 'vBulletin'
'ECF' => 'E-Cigarette-Forum'
'OP' => 'Original Poster'
'TH' => 'Throat Hit'
'PV' => 'Personal Vaporizer'
'Atty' => 'Atomizer'
'PT' => 'Passthrough'
'PG' => 'Propylene Glycol'
'VG' => 'Glycerine/Glycerin/Glycerol'
'PEG' => 'Polyethylene Glycol'
'PM' => 'Private Message'
'RYO' => 'Roll Your Own'
'PTB' => 'Pyramid Tea Bag'
'FDA' => 'Food and Drug Agency US'
'NRT' => 'Nicotine Replacement Therapy'
'ECA' => 'Electronic Cigarette Association'
'BP' => 'Big Pharma'
'BT' => 'Big tobacco'
'PH' => 'Public Health'
'QC' => 'Quality Control'
'PCC' => 'Personal Charging Case'
'HC' => 'Health Canada'
'MHRA' => 'Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Authority - UK'

If you think I should add some more, please let me know. I've shied away from the vendor specific ones, but perhaps I should include them? Let me know what you think.

SJ

 

[lordmage]

HC= health Canada or some such
WHO=World Health Org.
ASH= you know who not to be confused with WHO.

vendor specific ones without linking to them may help like but may lead vendors to create name purely to also be considered for the short cut.
JS=janty stick
TW
PS
SB
BB

and so on

 

[Oliver]

Unfortunately we cannot have WHO as an acronym as the system is not case sensitive.

I don't consider ASH's full name to be any more explanatory than their acronym - plus, I don't want to give them any more prominence than necessary.

HC I will add.

Thanks,

SJ

 

[Travis798]

Just a suggestion, but you might want to remove PH from the list, as there is a long of talk around here about chemicals and such, and having public health pop up for the meaning every time someone talks about the body regulating PH just gets annoying...

 

[Snarkyone]

I have some adult themed smilies I can contribute.....

 

[Oliver]

Just a suggestion, but you might want to remove PH from the list, as there is a long of talk around here about chemicals and such, and having public health pop up for the meaning every time someone talks about the body regulating PH just gets annoying...

I appreciate that, Travis, but surely that's the case with any acronym pop up. If it gets used a lot, it will annoy people who don't want to see it.

The only other solution I can see to this is to make acronyms appear for selected usergroups only - but unfortunately the software only currently allows it to be set for all users or those not logged in.

I'm not capable of hacking it myself!

SJ

 

[JoeMcPlumber]

Thanks Joe! I just found the acronym settings and I've added a whole load (and removed some)....

Way cool IMHO.

Now maybe you should put some unobtrusive highlighting
for those unfortunate folks who drive IE?

I think maybe...

acronym{
  border-bottom: 1px dotted #CCC;
}

...would mimic Firefox, except lighter so maybe people who find acronyms annoying
won't be quite so annoyed.

I haven't been around long enough to have an opinion
about vendor specific acronyms,
but if they're things i might like to know, i mean,
either i'm stupid or the search function doesn't seem to work for really short words.

- joe

 

[JoeMcPlumber]

vendor specific ones without linking to them may help like but may lead vendors to create name purely to also be considered for the short cut.

But by definition the name wouldn't qualify
until or unless it fell into common usage when, by definition,
it would qualify?

N'est-ce pas?

- joe

 

[Oliver]

Way cool IMHO.

Now maybe you should put some unobtrusive highlighting
for those unfortunate folks who drive IE?

I think maybe...

acronym{
  border-bottom: 1px dotted #CCC;
}

...would mimic Firefox, except lighter so maybe people who find acronyms annoying
won't be quite so annoyed.

I haven't been around long enough to have an opinion
about vendor specific acronyms,
but if they're things i might like to know, i mean,
either i'm stupid or the search function doesn't seem to work for really short words.

- joe

Done! What do you think? Too unobtrusive? About right?

Thanks!

SJ

 

[FizzleFisch]

... or the search function doesn't seem to work for really short words.

- joe

In addition to 'common-term' filtering.... I believe the search function is set to a 4-letter minimum...