RDA I spent a week using twisted wire

[Mailablemage]

I have to say I was pretty excited to try using twisted kanthal, and once I screwed the coils into my plume veil I was immediately impressed with the aesthetics. The coil looked great and heated up evenly. the vapor it produced was noticeably more flavorful. however, that is where the pros ended.

The problems started with the wicking.it took me a couple times to get it right since the cotton would catch on the coils,which wouldn't have been a problem if the wicks would actually absorb juice. I'm not sure why, but if I saturated like I normally do I would get a lot of un vaporized juice in my mouth, I was able to put at most 6 drops on each coil, which for me is a huge downside, since I like to be able to saturate a lot and only have to drip every 6-10 puffs. with the twisted wire I was able to maybe get 4 puffs before having to re saturate.

My second issue was with the heat up time. it was a .4 ohm coil, and with a regular 26g dual coil, I get instant vapor. With the twisted it would take somewhere between 2-4 seconds for the coils to heat to the point where it would begin to vaporize the juice.

IMO the bad out ways the good when it comes to twisted coils, at least with the gauge of wire I was using. I will eventually tinker with different sizes, but for now I'm happy with good ole regular dual coils.

 

[SissySpike]

I have to say I was pretty excited to try using twisted kanthal, and once I screwed the coils into my plume veil I was immediately impressed with the aesthetics. The coil looked great and heated up evenly. the vapor it produced was noticeably more flavorful. however, that is where the pros ended.

The problems started with the wicking.it took me a couple times to get it right since the cotton would catch on the coils,which wouldn't have been a problem if the wicks would actually absorb juice. I'm not sure why, but if I saturated like I normally do I would get a lot of un vaporized juice in my mouth, I was able to put at most 6 drops on each coil, which for me is a huge downside, since I like to be able to saturate a lot and only have to drip every 6-10 puffs. with the twisted wire I was able to maybe get 4 puffs before having to re saturate.

My second issue was with the heat up time. it was a .4 ohm coil, and with a regular 26g dual coil, I get instant vapor. With the twisted it would take somewhere between 2-4 seconds for the coils to heat to the point where it would begin to vaporize the juice.

IMO the good out ways the bad when it comes to twisted coils, at least with the gauge of wire I was using. I will eventually tinker with different sizes, but for now I'm happy with good ole regular dual coils.

Im old fashion I always go back to good old no contact simple coils. No matter what fancy thing I try to me they are the best.

 

[dbrandt01]

I like twisted coils and I'll run them occasionally. I noticed twisted coils "pop" more so juice gets in my mouth, but a little won't hurt. I agree I've always gotten more flavor out of twisted coils when I vaped flavored e-juice. Although I never had the problem with ramp up time with twisted coils. Granted I used an IPV3 at the time which I have since sold. It always heated up just as quick as standard coils to me at the same watts. I always used 28g for twisted coils.

 

[crxess]

Problem lies in the amount of wire being heated. You don't seem to have enough Amperage to hit the required power in one Umph shot.

28ga. would likely snap to performance levels.
Are you using a single 18650 Tube mod?
Likely a Dual parallel 18650 would fire the coils properly as they split the demanded power.

 

[VHRB2014]

I love twisted 28. Iv got one at .24 and it heats up fast and chucks vapor through several hits. Iv not counted, but maybe 5-8 long pulls on 20 drops in my Stillair.

My experiments with twisted 26 (if that`s what you are using), have been bust. Its very slow to heat up and once heated up is scorching hot, and the last one`s I did the battery did`nt even want to push it.

My newest is a non-contact 24g around a 3mm. 4 wraps for .25. It does`nt snap and pop near enough, but it is a flavor bomb in a MX.

 

[Ou2mame]

You mean the bad outweighs the good? Lol

 

[roxynoodle]

I use a lot of twisted 30g because I have no other use for it . Ramp up time is super fast.

 

[Mailablemage]

Problem lies in the amount of wire being heated. You don't seem to have enough Amperage to hit the required power in one Umph shot.

28ga. would likely snap to performance levels.
Are you using a single 18650 Tube mod?
Likely a Dual parallel 18650 would fire the coils properly as they split the demanded power.

Yah I'm using a nemesis with Samsung 25rs. I might try 30 or 28g in the future. But eh, not really excited about it

 

[crxess]

Yah I'm using a nemesis with Samsung 25rs. I might try 30 or 28g in the future. But eh, not really excited about it

You might be surprised. Give a 30ga. triple a try.

 

[Thrasher]

Yes you have to go to a lighter gauge on mechanical. They just can't brute force 5 inches of heavy wire like a box mod. Keeping the amount of wire to a minimum will produce the best reaction times.

If you think twisted is good check out ribbon, 2 to 3 times more surface area making contact with the wick then round

 

[SissySpike]

Yes you have to go to a lighter gauge on mechanical. They just can't brute force 5 inches of heavy wire like a box mod. Keeping the amount of wire to a minimum will produce the best reaction times.

If you think twisted is good check out ribbon, 2 to 3 times more surface area making contact with the wick then round

Ribbon on a geny is the only way. anything else is just a waste of a perfect atty!

 

[Mailablemage]

Yes you have to go to a lighter gauge on mechanical. They just can't brute force 5 inches of heavy wire like a box mod. Keeping the amount of wire to a minimum will produce the best reaction times.

If you think twisted is good check out ribbon, 2 to 3 times more surface area making contact with the wick then round

what im planing on doing is buying a hana modz for the heavier coils. im thinking I might have better luck with that.

 

[Davect06607]

Ribbon on a geny is the only way. anything else is just a waste of a perfect atty!

I still have to give this a try

 

[Oberon75]

I'm using twisted 30g NI200 and it works so much better.

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[TinyDeyo]

I am actually running a dual twisted 28 gauge right now at .4 ohms in my plume and I'm runnning it at 55 watts right now. Instant heat up, great flavor no complaints on my end

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[Thrasher]

Ribbon on a geny is the only way. anything else is just a waste of a perfect atty!

Yep that's the whole secret behind twisted wire and micro coils in general, there's nothing special happening, they are just adding more surface area to the coil.

I can build the sloppiest wraps with ribbon in a dripper and still put out rain clouds no worrying about diameter. Where's my coil tools. Now I have to pinch the wire, etc etc I take a price of silica go 1,2,3,4,5 wraps done .put it in and start vaping.

 

[TorontoOntario]

Twisted 26 is what I do for my RDAs that top mechanical devices. Usually clock in around .3 which I really enjoy. It provides a really nice, crisp flavour. The flavour really pops with my twisted builds so much so I haven't put a non twisted coil in a dripper in months. I have a build in my Doge on the IPV3, twisted 24 and I run it at .13 so it will always fire. Barely use it but it chucks something fierce. I have not used a single strand micro contact coil for a long, long time in my RDAs. In my Kayfun 4 a simple 28 gauge at. 1.3 ohm 20w is fantastic for my style. Thats about it.

 

[pennysmalls]

I've tried twisted once and wasn't happy with the heat up time. I use Odin's on Reo's. What I'm wondering is if my coil diameter was to big, I used a 7/64 drill bit because I use the 3mm Ready x Wick. Perhaps I should try smaller diameter coils with some 2mm RxW?

 

[ScarecrowJenkins]

The more mass your coil contains, the more time it will take to heat up. Lower the resistance and it will fire just fine. You just need to find a sweet spot with the resistance, .4 may work fine with just straight kanthal, but you may wanna shoot lower. Just take one wrap off and see how it fires. It's never the coil's fault

 

[Thrasher]

I've tried twisted once and wasn't happy with the heat up time. I use Odin's on Reo's. What I'm wondering is if my coil diameter was to big, I used a 7/64 drill bit because I use the 3mm Ready x Wick. Perhaps I should try smaller diameter coils with some 2mm RxW?

The trick on a mechanical is less wire, twisted =2x the amount of regular.

up the gauge and use less to bring up the reaction time