Chill my brother...at least the company has acknowledged the issue and has corrected the problem. This is not unlike our auto companies that bury re-callable safety issues on your $30,000 vehicle. Istick has been reliable up to this point, and with their voluntary acknowledgement and correction, then I think we should cut some slack here. Ya, you got stuck with a lemon, and sorry about that, sincerely. If you enjoyed it for 30+ days, and now know that a design change has been made, maybe consider a new one from new stock. I once had a dishwasher that had a design flaw to where the heating element melted the plastic tub. After research, I found house fires were caused by this issue. No published recall, just a 10% off coupon from the company toward a new one. Just sayin'
I think we need to STOP recommending a Istick 50
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I don't recommend 50's to any newbie anywhoos..30watts yes..
they replaced them? free of charge? a goof..not the first in the vaping industry and not the last I'm sure..
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they replaced them? free of charge? a goof..not the first in the vaping industry and not the last I'm sure..
is this message brought to you by Innokin?
here a funny to lighten the mood..
Are you saying we should maybe recommend it but while at it maybe mention that those interested should get one that does not blow up?
Sounds way too middle ground for my liking. We're not done here until there's at least 2 new subforums.
Ideally this is where a manufacturer renames their product or gives it a v2 or something to differentiate. It's a major cockup. Fess up, save as much face as possible - do better next time.
AGAIN, will SOMEONE provide some backup to this, "Eleaf has admitted issues and has corrected them." data point?
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
The second comment on the first page of this thread has a link to reddit, which purportedly contains a copied and pasted email from eleaf to a vape shop. I dont think anyone has a public statement from eleaf?
I strongly agree with your "purportedly"...
That Reddit thread for me opens up more questions than it answers.
Primary being that The One purported response from a Eleaf Disbributor is The Only anywhere Near to Official response from Eleaf
on the 50 issues?
Seems to me if that response were on the Up and Up, there'd at least be mentioned a way to determine IF your unit is one from
the first batch And Eleaf doing something for owners with those first batch, (supposedly) KNOWN by Eleaf to have issues units.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
This feels like the xbox 360 overheating debacle from a few years back. People who had overheating issues with the original one were told a newer version was out that fixed the issue. There was no change in the look of the unit itself, but there were power brick differences in some cases and manufacture dates that were supposed to be the newer version of the board, etc. Then it was found that the improved version had the same issue.
Lets just say that I lack trust in the product. I won't slam them however because the iStick has changed the landscape. We now see a flotilla of like PVs coming to market. Even Kanger is making one now.
I have never suggested the iStick 50 simply because there is no way to check each battery individually before & after charging, and for me that is a real concern. Placing blind trust that both batteries charged correctly is just to much of a stretch for me.
I have never suggested the iStick 50 simply because there is no way to check each battery individually before & after charging, and for me that is a real concern. Placing blind trust that both batteries charged correctly is just to much of a stretch for me.
The problem with the 50 is that it has had multiple problems. Fixing the connection may prevent one issue (them catching on fire while charging) but doesn't fix the "auto-fire" issue, nor several of the other issues that have come about.
Yes, some people have 50's that work perfectly fine. But a lot of others have not had the same luck.
I think many people see the 20, 30, and 50 and think "Why not go for the 50", but in fact the 20 and 30 have not had the problems that the 50 has, and I believe it's a matter of pushing the technology beyond it's limits. (For the auto-firing, I think their MOSFET can't handle the higher power reliably, and some significant percentage of them fail).
It isn't a matter of hating, just a matter of warning people. And the failure modes are NOT benign, these can pose a real danger of fire and/or injury.
Yes, some people have 50's that work perfectly fine. But a lot of others have not had the same luck.
I think many people see the 20, 30, and 50 and think "Why not go for the 50", but in fact the 20 and 30 have not had the problems that the 50 has, and I believe it's a matter of pushing the technology beyond it's limits. (For the auto-firing, I think their MOSFET can't handle the higher power reliably, and some significant percentage of them fail).
It isn't a matter of hating, just a matter of warning people. And the failure modes are NOT benign, these can pose a real danger of fire and/or injury.
almost every company has had some type of a dud or recall at some point. I guess we can't recommend anything now?
new vaper - "hey what should I get to start up with?"
me - "sorry man.....NO company is perfect, so I can't help you.....maybe just keep smoking"
new vaper - "hey what should I get to start up with?"
me - "sorry man.....NO company is perfect, so I can't help you.....maybe just keep smoking"
almost every company has had some type of a dud or recall at some point. I guess we can't recommend anything now?
new vaper - "hey what should I get to start up with?"
me - "sorry man.....NO company is perfect, so I can't help you.....maybe just keep smoking"
how about recommending a product that has a solid reputation? ... maybe one that does not have repeated reports of ghost firing?
just saying ... safety really should be the priority ... not, get this one dude, it's only $40 bucks
If we listen to every recommendation not to buy a product we would be buying new batteries all the time. Who can afford that? I'm on limited income. I'm sure one could buy a U.S.A. battery and it could go bad. An owner of a local vape shop told me he saw an $800 device go bad.
New Vapers: Just use gum or patch....don't know what device to recommend [sarcasm].
New Vapers: Just use gum or patch....don't know what device to recommend [sarcasm].
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how about recommending a product that has a solid reputation? ... maybe one that does not have repeated reports of ghost firing?
just saying ... safety really should be the priority ... not, get this one dude, it's only $40 bucks
point being..... almost no company has 100% solid rep. even one of (if not the most) respected company in the biz 'evolv' has had recall issues and duds, and things that don't work properly.
if every time a company has put out a product with a defect we shunned them......then we would have no place to buy from.
For many year here, and in the general vaping community at large. A product, any product that could not be seen as reliable and manufactured to a high standard of function and reliability was usually cast aside, not recommended and generally snubbed by the majority until they fixed it or made it better.
It is only in the past year or so since China has taken over the market with these box mods has it become considered acceptable to continually purchase or introduce to market faulty or inferior products.
Only since this latest wave of new vapors has crap like Bad boards , faulty connectors, shoddy construction,failing buttons etc etc, been considered acceptable.
If people want to continually brush off these problems while continuing to keep buying the next cheaply made device, not my business. But don't expect China to care and start producing better quality when the consumers obviously don't worry about it
Your example of limited income is exactly the reason you shouldn't be buying crap.
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point being ... why recommend a device that is prone to dangerous ghost firing?
there are just too many other options that do not ghost fire.
uhhh....because it was a defect that has been resolved and is no longer a problem with current units
I don't think there are any 18650 batteries made in the USA. But I could be wrong.
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