idiot proof ecig kit?
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I hear good things about the KR808 (vapor king from vapor4life.com) for folks who don't like to tinker, just vape.
I would suggest a kit from Vapor4Life. They are two piece models, and come with pre-filled "cartomizers", basically a flavor cartridge, and atomizer built together. You can prefill/refill if you like, but they are meant to be disposable, and economical enough to be disposable. Hope that helps.
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+1 on the vaporking for ease of use.
You can also try out 510 cartomizers for your current batteries, since the buttons for KR-808's are simliar to 510 manuals.
A battery mod seems to cure a lot of ills... From fairly cheap ($25-$30 for a box mod or laser pointer mod) to mid range ($60-$90) and beyond (over $100... and way over).
Pretty great even at 3.7v. More consistent vaporization of liquids. Sealed so no worries about wrecking stock batteries and just plain better vapor production.
I have quite a few... Love the Chuck, Silver Bullet and currently playing with the nifty Indulgence (got mine from ECigSupply.com) that has 4 adapters with it so you can use 5 different atomizers/cartos. 12% off (code available on his facebook page) makes it a killer deal.
I'm sure others will give you opinions on what they've used *grin* but you can see some pretty good lists and info here E-cig News: A run-down of all the big battery model e-cigarettes on the market
Don't forget to look for discount codes if you buy one. Quite a few will have one available.
Pretty great even at 3.7v. More consistent vaporization of liquids. Sealed so no worries about wrecking stock batteries and just plain better vapor production.
I have quite a few... Love the Chuck, Silver Bullet and currently playing with the nifty Indulgence (got mine from ECigSupply.com) that has 4 adapters with it so you can use 5 different atomizers/cartos. 12% off (code available on his facebook page) makes it a killer deal.
I'm sure others will give you opinions on what they've used *grin* but you can see some pretty good lists and info here E-cig News: A run-down of all the big battery model e-cigarettes on the market
Don't forget to look for discount codes if you buy one. Quite a few will have one available.
With 3 separate battery sizes to choose from, this is true. The shortys provide 3-4 hours of hard use, regulars 4-5, and XL 5-6 hours, and that is all hard use. You can choose from automatic(vaccum switch controlled), or manual(button controlled). Manual seem to have a longer life span, while auto simulates "smoking" more authentically. The VaporKing is a big plus in the ease of use area, while not slacking in the vapor/flavor department.
While I'd agree that the Kr808 is the 'easiest' to use, I've yet to find a V4L carto with a flavor I could stomach. But, taste is subjective. If you already have a juice with a flavor you like, you could always order blank cartos and fill them yourself. If you purchase one of the XL batteries, you'd be vaping 'worry free'.
the KR8 can be easier to use...but there are planty of places to get it other than v4L...
like I said plenty of places to get a KR808D-1 other than V4L and cheaper too...as for the economical enough to be disposeable...that depends...slightly... if a carto lasts the same as half a pack of smokes and it's $10 for a 5 pack it's about the same depending on where you live..(here it costs the same if you only vape prefilled)
that time estimate on shorties is just wrong... shortie batteries are 180mAh (same as standard 510 battery), regulars 280mAh (same as 510 mega battery), XLs 380mAh....hard use?....under hard use a 180mAh battery doesnt last me much longer than an hour at most (and with V4L premium cartomizers it's much worse)
Agree with that...alot of their flavors have an underlying perfume/chemical tastes...has alot to do with the flavors having a base that has alot of the flavors derived from rose...
they are somewhat idiot proof but have a steep learning curve at the beginning as far as burning the filler in the cartos, ruining auto batteries if they're dropped or flooded if you're refilling cartos yourself..
but the most idiot proof is still going to be dripping on a 3 piece model with a manual battery
Just sounds to me as if you have some underlying issue with the aforementioned vendor. You are entitled to your opinion there kind sir.
This is the exact reason i hate posting on ECF, in any area, sub forum, whatever. A person tries to give an honest answer to a question, and always, a "negative Nancy" jumps out to slay someone's statements with "some hard facts", which to me really sounds like some disgruntled boohooing to me. Why?
Seriously, am i inflating any truths here? The battery life IS NOT overstated. I own at least 2 of every battery "they" make. I have used the batteries like mad, and still to this day they operate just fine, AND PROVIDE THE CHARGE THAT I STATED IN MY POST. I find it hard to believe that a short style battery, with a KR8 carto won't last you an hour. I am not imagining things, fluffing facts to gross income to a company i have nil to do with, other than being a customer.
You may be able to buy those specific batteries from different vendors for a cheaper price, but i would be surprised if those vendors offered warranties, and guarantees that are actually backed up. You get what you pay for.
I would also like to respond to your burning filler comment, i have only experienced ONE faulty carto, out of the 300+ i have tried. It comes with the territory dude, how many atomizers have failed on you?
How could a 3 piece be more simple than a KR8 battery, and KR8 cart?I'll crawl back into my hole now, and just keep quiet. Suppose the suggestions should be dealt out by you, the expert.
Just sounds to me as if you have some underlying issue with the aforementioned vendor. You are entitled to your opinion there kind sir.
This is the exact reason i hate posting on ECF, in any area, sub forum, whatever. A person tries to give an honest answer to a question, and always, a "negative Nancy" jumps out to slay someone's statements with "some hard facts", which to me really sounds like some disgruntled boohooing to me. Why?
And why does it have to be a specific model from a specific vendor...chearlead for them all you want on their subforum....but it comes down to it's a KR8 and tons of people carry them, some cheaper, some more expensive...suggest the model all you want...but give me cold hard reasons why the vaporking from V4L is better than any of the other KR8 out there...
Disgruntled boohooing? nah...I just won't by from them nor suggest them...their product is more expensive and their CS isn't all it's touted to be...and the irregularity in consistency of their products leaves a lot to be desired..
Seriously, am i inflating any truths here? The battery life IS NOT overstated. I own at least 2 of every battery "they" make. I have used the batteries like mad, and still to this day they operate just fine, AND PROVIDE THE CHARGE THAT I STATED IN MY POST. I find it hard to believe that a short style battery, with a KR8 carto won't last you an hour. I am not imagining things, fluffing facts to gross income to a company i have nil to do with, other than being a customer.
I wouldn't say inflating any truths....I'd say that giving any battery life in terms of how many hours it lsts you is totally subjective to your vaping style...shorties are 180mAh, regular batteries are 280mAh, XL batteries are 380mAh...they're going to last everyone differently...
You may be able to buy those specific batteries from different vendors for a cheaper price, but i would be surprised if those vendors offered warranties, and guarantees that are actually backed up. You get what you pay for.
Yes you do..you get what you pay for or sometimes you don't when they substitute items or forget items...but they're real good at trying to blind you with freebies to make you feel like part of the family. If the stuff you order is right in the first place and works like it should...you shouldnt have to warranty replace stuff all the time.
I would also like to respond to your burning filler comment, i have only experienced ONE faulty carto, out of the 300+ i have tried. It comes with the territory dude, how many atomizers have failed on you?
Hrm..failed atties...one LR atty that I accidentally put on HV..as for the burned filler...have you opened them up and looked at them examined them for burning filler (heres a tip the premiums are worse) or made note of all the burning carto threads, or steves response when asked specifically about the burning filler issue? as for how a 3 piece can be simpler well lets see...we don't have the burning filler issue, dripping or dipping an atty is way more simple than refilling cartos...depending on which week you got your batteries you're not dealing with which battery has which holes and whether the draw is too airy or too tight and how to take care of that...
I'll crawl back into my hole now, and just keep quiet. Suppose the suggestions should be dealt out by you, the expert.
I never said I was an expert....but I don't let fanboydom get in the way of good common sense logic either
here's one of my favorite quotes of recent (name removed to protect the innocent) not because of what it says but because it illustrates a point and the sentiment:
it's sad....but when one of the fans that beat the drum the loudest months ago now has this stance then theres a problem...
I can only recommend what Ive used - and thats a 510, baisc kit, no mods, but I do use a PT, and some 901 atties as well (I got an adapter to try them out lol). I'm not super gadget savvy, though I wouldn't call myself a complete idiot, but i didn't and haven't and don't find the 510 really hard to get the hang of. I dumped carts because I felt they were too much trouble for something so small (and I like simple and easy) and went to direct dripping which suits my lifestyle and temperament.
I would imagine its no more trouble than fiddling with a pipe would be (never smoked a pipe though but Ive seen others use one) but its more 'trouble' than smoking a cig. However cigs don't give me the satisfaction or healthier lungs that this thing does so it kinda balances out
I would imagine its no more trouble than fiddling with a pipe would be (never smoked a pipe though but Ive seen others use one) but its more 'trouble' than smoking a cig. However cigs don't give me the satisfaction or healthier lungs that this thing does so it kinda balances out
There is nothing easier than the 510 with the cartomizer. The 808 is a good device as well but I feel the 510 carto gives much better vapor and flavor. If you already have some 510 batts give the cartos a try without having to buy more batts until you try them. Go to litecigusa as they have the blanks on sale for $6.95/5 pack with free shipping over $15.00. Fill them yourself using the condom method (look up here on ECF). It is sooo easy and is the only thing I use now. Trust me give it a try.
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