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hmm looks like there is some speculation about the amp limit of the Vamo http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/387324-vamo-amp-limitations.html
looks like you will only get the 5 amps if you stack 18350s and stacking batteries is not really recommended, BUT can be done safely if your willing to jump through some hoops. however you will get about 3 amps just using one 18650 battery...
knowing that, Vamo vs Tesla... i would say go whichever one you can get for less money.
looks like you will only get the 5 amps if you stack 18350s and stacking batteries is not really recommended, BUT can be done safely if your willing to jump through some hoops. however you will get about 3 amps just using one 18650 battery...
knowing that, Vamo vs Tesla... i would say go whichever one you can get for less money.
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Tesla is only 30something at FastTech, but it seems as if one person will wait 2 months and one will wait 2 days.. I don't like Russian roullettehmm looks like there is some speculation about the amp limit of the Vamo http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/387324-vamo-amp-limitations.html
looks like you will only get the 5 amps if you stack 18350s and stacking batteries is not really recommended, BUT can be done safely if your willing to jump through some hoops. however you will get about 3 amps just using one 18650 battery...
knowing that, Vamo vs Tesla... i would say go whichever one you can get for less money.
www. magicvaporshop.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=395&category_id=111&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2&vmcchk=1&Itemid=2
Think it's worth the 90 with the protank v1?
the tesla kit from www.magicvaporshop.com seems like a good deal.
when you go to order it make sure shipping times and costs are reasonable.
when you go to order it make sure shipping times and costs are reasonable.
I'm a noob to this as well. I've been off the stinkies now for 32 days after using them for 35 years. I started out with an eGo-T, then read about the Halo Triton and it winning an editor's choice award at PC Magazine. I was pleased with how things were going until I read about variable voltage and such...after a solid week of additional research I now have a Innokin VTR on it's way through the USPS. I expect this to be my last Mod purchase, and from what I've read...I wish I had purchased this one first based on all the positive comments I've read about it. I'll post my assessment after I get my chance to test it...
Does this seem like a good build?
Dripping atomizer for while I'm at home/Trying new flavors etc, then the glassomizer for while I'm out.
Going to probably get it if it seems like a solid setup to you guys, I like the mod, and the 5ml tank on the glassy, Not sure if the batteries should be replaced with something of more quality, or if those are well enough. The protank coil heads are for the glassomizer, it's what it said fits it, but I'm curious as to whether or not they can be rebuilt or not. So my main thing is, does this seem like a solid build? If so, can the coil heads be rebuilt, or should I just keep them in my cart and replace when need be?
Does this seem like a good build?
Dripping atomizer for while I'm at home/Trying new flavors etc, then the glassomizer for while I'm out.
Going to probably get it if it seems like a solid setup to you guys, I like the mod, and the 5ml tank on the glassy, Not sure if the batteries should be replaced with something of more quality, or if those are well enough. The protank coil heads are for the glassomizer, it's what it said fits it, but I'm curious as to whether or not they can be rebuilt or not. So my main thing is, does this seem like a solid build? If so, can the coil heads be rebuilt, or should I just keep them in my cart and replace when need be?
that battery you have in the list has a max amp rating of
Output current: 10A (continuous)
and its Li-ion chemistry. if something goes wrong and you pull more than 10 amps from the battery it could explode in a fire ball.
this is why its highly recommended that you use IMR chemistry batteries in mech mods. IMR batteries will vent some hot gas if something goes wrong, Li-Ion can produce a fireball. here is an example of an IMR battery (the higher the amp rating the better). this one is pretty nice for the price and that is why its currently out of stock.
Efest 35AMP IMR18650- 2500mah - 101 Vape
Both the Vamo and the SID you are looking at are probably a good way to go. The Vamo has a 5 amp limit, the SID 4amp. Both will definitely do the job though. Now I would probably recommend going the way of the Vamo or the SID and trying to rebuild on those first before jumping into buying a mech. With the Vamo or SID you will be able to adjust the voltage or wattage to get a better vape. You can always get a cheap RDA for less that $10 many which come with a little wick and wire to experiment with rebuilding. However, I don't believe you will be able to sub-ohm on either as they do not fire that low to protect the user from possibly over drawing the battery.
That brings up another factor. Those batteries are fine if you are using a Vamo or SID but if you decide to get a mech I cannot stress enough how important it is to get a reliable high amp name brand battery. If you decide to get a mech, keep in mind that instead of turning up the voltage or wattage, you will need to adjust your build to your vape preference. When going the mechanical/rebuildable route a lot more time and probably money will need/should be invested. You should get an ohm reader, you should read up on battery safety, ohms law and should figure you going to need some wire, wick, may want a kick and should be ready to spend some time, sometimes a lot of time, fiddling and adjusting to get it all working right. However.... once all is said and done and you have your build to working the right way.... ohhhhhh the vape is SO GOOD!
Now the only one who can determine whether a VV/VW mod or a mechanical is the right way to go for you is YOU. If you feel you really want to start rebuilding and you are going to be getting a mech sooner or later anyway... then by all means skip the VV/VW step and go for it. Just be prepared to commit a little more time and effort into it.
That brings up another factor. Those batteries are fine if you are using a Vamo or SID but if you decide to get a mech I cannot stress enough how important it is to get a reliable high amp name brand battery. If you decide to get a mech, keep in mind that instead of turning up the voltage or wattage, you will need to adjust your build to your vape preference. When going the mechanical/rebuildable route a lot more time and probably money will need/should be invested. You should get an ohm reader, you should read up on battery safety, ohms law and should figure you going to need some wire, wick, may want a kick and should be ready to spend some time, sometimes a lot of time, fiddling and adjusting to get it all working right. However.... once all is said and done and you have your build to working the right way.... ohhhhhh the vape is SO GOOD!
Now the only one who can determine whether a VV/VW mod or a mechanical is the right way to go for you is YOU. If you feel you really want to start rebuilding and you are going to be getting a mech sooner or later anyway... then by all means skip the VV/VW step and go for it. Just be prepared to commit a little more time and effort into it.
So other than the battery, seems like a good build?that battery you have in the list has a max amp rating of
Output current: 10A (continuous)
and its Li-ion chemistry. if something goes wrong and you pull more than 10 amps from the battery it could explode in a fire ball.
this is why its highly recommended that you use IMR chemistry batteries in mech mods. IMR batteries will vent some hot gas if something goes wrong, Li-Ion can produce a fireball. here is an example of an IMR battery (the higher the amp rating the better). this one is pretty nice for the price and that is why its currently out of stock.
Efest 35AMP IMR18650- 2500mah - 101 Vape
How about rebuilding the glassomizer, is it rebuildable or just wise to buy the protank coil heads? How often would it need to be replaced/rebuilt?
Oh and I would say Fasttech is NOT a reliable company. Here are a few reasons why.
1) It took them 2 months to get a little dripper here to NY. It has never taken that long to get anything else I have ordered from overseas...ever.
2) They will allow you to order even if the item is not in stock without telling you. Your order will then sit in limbo until they get the item in.
3)Some of their items are sub par... even compared to clones such as Hcigar, EHpro, etc. Additionally some of their items are actually clones of clones (fake Hcigar clones lol) or clones of cheap hardware (clones of a Youde Igo L, really? It's like $12 regularly.)
4) If/when you receive your item you have very few options to choose from if there is a mistake with your order, manufacturing defect or an item comes to you damaged. Not only will you have trouble communicating with them if you need to return something or have an item replaced but you then face having to pay shipping back to china and waiting TWICE the time for shipping there and back again.
Ordering from US vendors I have been lucky enough to have only received good and often outstanding customer service. The last time there was an issue with my order I received an extra item and one thing I ordered was missing. When I contacted them they answered me right away, asked that I keep the extra item (luckily it fit my devices) and shipped the missing part out with tracking. I received it 3 days later AND they threw in some extra atomizer heads "for my troubles." Good luck getting that with Fasttech. If you order from them... consider it a gamble, don't expect amazing craftsmanship or customer service and be willing to wait quite a while.
1) It took them 2 months to get a little dripper here to NY. It has never taken that long to get anything else I have ordered from overseas...ever.
2) They will allow you to order even if the item is not in stock without telling you. Your order will then sit in limbo until they get the item in.
3)Some of their items are sub par... even compared to clones such as Hcigar, EHpro, etc. Additionally some of their items are actually clones of clones (fake Hcigar clones lol) or clones of cheap hardware (clones of a Youde Igo L, really? It's like $12 regularly.)
4) If/when you receive your item you have very few options to choose from if there is a mistake with your order, manufacturing defect or an item comes to you damaged. Not only will you have trouble communicating with them if you need to return something or have an item replaced but you then face having to pay shipping back to china and waiting TWICE the time for shipping there and back again.
Ordering from US vendors I have been lucky enough to have only received good and often outstanding customer service. The last time there was an issue with my order I received an extra item and one thing I ordered was missing. When I contacted them they answered me right away, asked that I keep the extra item (luckily it fit my devices) and shipped the missing part out with tracking. I received it 3 days later AND they threw in some extra atomizer heads "for my troubles." Good luck getting that with Fasttech. If you order from them... consider it a gamble, don't expect amazing craftsmanship or customer service and be willing to wait quite a while.
I'm most likely going to just add a vamos v5 to the setup I posted a picture of, at that point it'd be 2 completes, for not too much more.
Thank you for this insight. Any recommendations store wise?
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people do rebuild the protank / evod heads all the time. they use micro coils and cotton wick mostly.
the issue with rebuilding the heads is that the coil leads or "legs" are held in place with a rubber grommet. if the legs get hot it will burn the rubber and you don't what to inhale burning rubber. factory coils use non-resistance wire that is arc welded to resistance wire.
the non-resistance wire acts as the legs and because it has a very low resistance it will not get hot. the resistance wire acts as the coil around the wick and does it hot. so people use a micro coil because the design reduces the risk of a hot leg burning the rubber.
there are some things like the Zapper V2 for like $100 that are made for arc welding the NR-R-NR wires and also some DIY directions on how to build your own arc welder. arc welders can be lethal if not used properly.
the issue with rebuilding the heads is that the coil leads or "legs" are held in place with a rubber grommet. if the legs get hot it will burn the rubber and you don't what to inhale burning rubber. factory coils use non-resistance wire that is arc welded to resistance wire.
the non-resistance wire acts as the legs and because it has a very low resistance it will not get hot. the resistance wire acts as the coil around the wick and does it hot. so people use a micro coil because the design reduces the risk of a hot leg burning the rubber.
there are some things like the Zapper V2 for like $100 that are made for arc welding the NR-R-NR wires and also some DIY directions on how to build your own arc welder. arc welders can be lethal if not used properly.
I weld every day, for 5 or 6 hours, most days. I'd rather not have to do so at home as well.
I'll stick to something else.
FYI, I rebuild Protank coils all the time - no welding, no NR wire, just plain ole kanthal and silica wick. Never had a problem w/rubber taste.
YMMV it seems.
YMMV it seems.
When I saw your vamo for $100, first thing I thought was... FASTTECH.
I seem to do most my hardware purchases from them. Here's a few things to keep in mind.1) they are reputable. They are one of the few sites I know of that doesn't censor their posts about products. The only thing they disallow, is mentioning competitors and spam, which is understandable. I have seen reviews bashing a product and how horrible it is. for them to do that on any of their products is a big plus to me.
2) Shipping will be slow. This is not entirely their fault.
a)They obey most shipping laws and regulations, so keep that in mind. For example, anything with a battery has been deemed hazardous materials,
and most carriers refuse to ship them entirely, or require too steep of a charge to be feasible. Because of that, you have to ship Malaysia post.
b)They do not stock all products they list, so you wil have to wait for Fasttech to get the item first.
c) The item will have to go through at LEAST 2 customs offices (China and destination country)
d) Even though they say ships worldwide, it's not to every country. Check to see if they ship to your country before placing an order.
e) Shipping is FREE for most items. Malaysia post adds a slight charge (like .50us). but those are the standard carrier rates, not express shipping.
3) Assume anything you're buying from them a clone, unless it specifically says authentic.
4) Read the customer reviews. They will give you a good overall account of the quality of the item. IF there's no reviews on the item, there's probably a good reason why, check the discussion area ont he product.
5) Fasttech is not a manufacturer, but a distributor. keep that in mind. They sell a wide variety of stuff, and some are better than others.
6) They offer great deals, and are almost unbeatable in most cases when it comes to clones/chinese made products.
7) They do offer return policies, but keep in mind, they don't make much of a profit off of the items themselves, so RMAs will be handled as cheap of a solution as possible. I've only had one RMA, and it was for a mini protank. a viable solution for them was to wait for my next order from them and they'd add a replacement with that order. That was my suggestion to them that they found doable.
As I said, they are reputable with slow shipping times. Here's some of my shipping times:
order placed Item Recieved.
2/17/2014 3/21/2014 (Malaysia Post/UPS)
1/09/2014 2/01/2014 (Singapore Post/UPS)
12/21/2013 1/08/2014 (Singapore Post/UPS)
9/17/2013 10/10/2013 (Singapore Post/UPS)
Etc..... so, an average of 1 month is a good estimate, With Malaysia post taking a bit longer (they have poor tracking in my opinion)
I would recommend buying things locally to get things started. But definately keep Fasttech in mind when you're wanting to try something new, or wish to add a few toppers to your collection. I am lucky to have a local brick and mortar shop close by, so if I need something in an emergency, I go there first. But if I'm stocking up on replacement coils, or a few extra clearomizers, I go ahead and do the 1 month wait from Fasttech.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned....I'm about to trek into mech mods and in all my reading here, one thing that stuck out was to avoid efest batteries and invest in a "great" charger. There are so many cheapo chargers out there and one tip I got said "avoid" anything with the word FIRE, Trustfire, etc...I got an I4 charger which folks thought was a pretty good one, but personally, I'm gonna stay away from anything Efest and anything with Fire in the title....just my 
I use efest 18650s all the time. 1600 mah 30 amp to be specific. Never had problem.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned....I'm about to trek into mech mods and in all my reading here, one thing that stuck out was to avoid efest batteries and invest in a "great" charger. There are so many cheapo chargers out there and one tip I got said "avoid" anything with the word FIRE, Trustfire, etc...I got an I4 charger which folks thought was a pretty good one, but personally, I'm gonna stay away from anything Efest and anything with Fire in the title....just my
You're sounding like a Pro.
Efests are so-so, but they are better than a "fire" battery. It's not that I would avoid them, but if you had the option between an Efest 2100MaH battery or a sony VTC4 2100MaH battery, the Sony's would win hands down. Of course, you'll pay for the Sony name.- Status
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