I'm not a smoker. Is this worth getting into?

[idontusetobacco]

I didn't know ther were Hookah bars with e-hookahs. Where was it?

It was a normal hookah bar with tobacco, etc. I didn't like the nicotine high, and I didn't like the smell, but I LOVED the taste, and the act of blowing the smoke and the overall ritual.

So far, none of your posts in this thread have contained any useful information or constructive criticism. I hope you aren't a typical example of the kind of person who frequents this forum. Why do you waste your time being rude on an internet forum? Get a life!

To the contrary, ALL of us have recommended that you not start an addiction if you're not choosing the lesser of 2 evils. That's about as useful as it gets.

I was specifically referring to CssReb there. I'm sorry, but a one word answer, "NO", does not constitute anything other than a rude, flippant response. Especially coming on the heels of his first post where he called me a moronic newbie! Again, if there is no nicotine, what will I get addicted to?

LMFAO I'm definitely skeptical myself..... there's something just a little unbelievable about these two posts. Who chooses the screen name "idontusetobacco" ...I mean come one. WTF.... such an underhanded way of gathering evidence against something.... besides, before I smoked I didn't think it was cool and had no desire to do it at all. I would never have gone out of my way to "look" like I was smoking.... just seems a little bit off.

idontusetobacco: If you are truly sincere please forgive all of us who are extremely skeptical of these kinds of posts due to the recent placement of e-cigs in the FDA's all powerful scope. And DON'T pick up an addiction just for the hell of it.... NO ONE in here is glad they ever touched a cig.

Um, evidently I'm the kind of person who chooses that kind of username
It's descriptive. It will be easy for me to remember. Evidently it was a poor choice. I didn't realize non-smokers weren't welcome here.

 

[dc32]

how about just not letting underage people join?

BAM! problem solved

 

[gep]

YouTube - French Taunter

 

[CONCRETE RIVER]

Evidently it was a poor choice.

evidently.


and....reported!

 

[lachesis]

3 words for you.

Don't Do It.

We chose e-cig because it's more logically and theoretically safer way to smoke, which doesn't mean it's danger free. I regret the day I started smoking. Addiction is a dangerous thing to toy with, so just don't do it.

 

[idontusetobacco]

Now come on man.... No one says sh*t like that.....

I just did! Are you kidding me? tobacco companies spent fortunes for decades trying to make smoking look sexy and fun. And having grown up in America, exposed to all that marketing, it worked! I think smoking looks cool (visually speaking). I'm not an idiot though. It's a dirty, deadly habit, and nicotine is a dangerous poison. My grandmother died from lung cancer, and my aunt currently has bladder cancer, thanks to all those cigarettes. I have utterly no interest in actual smoke, or using nicotine.

 

[Kendra]

But none of you people smoke, now do you? You do something completely different.

I think if you want to try it, you should buy the LorAnn sample pack of flavorings and mix it with pg or glycerine.

I am not sure he's a "plant". Maybe, but I doubt it.

 

[CssReb]

rotflmao

gep, that was funny ...

 

[nitewriter]

I just did! Are you kidding me? Tobacco companies spent fortunes for decades trying to make smoking look sexy and fun. And having grown up in America, exposed to all that marketing, it worked! I think smoking looks cool (visually speaking). I'm not an idiot though. It's a dirty, deadly habit, and nicotine is a dangerous poison. My grandmother died from lung cancer, and my aunt currently has bladder cancer, thanks to all those cigarettes. I have utterly no interest in actual smoke, or using nicotine.

If you had close family that died from health problems caused by smoking. Why would you want to replicate it with or without nicotine? It seems that you are contradicting yourself with this statement.

...And you wonder why we are suspicious?

 

[taukimada]

3 words for you.

Don't Do It.

We chose e-cig because it's more logically and theoretically safer way to smoke, which doesn't mean it's danger free. I regret the day I started smoking. Addiction is a dangerous thing to toy with, so just don't do it.

and so speaks an aspect of Fate

 

[idontusetobacco]

3 words for you.

Don't Do It.

We chose e-cig because it's more logically and theoretically safer way to smoke, which doesn't mean it's danger free. I regret the day I started smoking. Addiction is a dangerous thing to toy with, so just don't do it.

People keep saying "addiction". No one has told me yet just how I'm suppose to get addicted to something that doesn't have any drugs in it! Propylene glycol doesn't particularly worry me either, since it's in everything else. I use Angostura bitters in my martini's and manhattan's all the time
And since I might be vaping, maybe 1/50? as frequently as a former smoker, I'm not worried too much about inhaling it as a vapor either.

 

[CssReb]

called me a moronic newbie!

Ahem, I called you a noob and your question moronic.

 

[gep]

Genuine people are welcome here.
Trolls are not.
You do not seem to be genuinely interested in the spirit of this forum, therefore you are not welcome.

This is not a fad for us.

Many of the people who are members of this forum understand how bad tobacco smoke is for one's health. But thanks to the collusion of big Tobacco and our government, the truth about it's harmful nature was kept under lock and key while all the while they were devising ways to keep people hooked.

Many of us are trying our damnedest to quit. Many of us are merely looking for a way to responsibly manage a habit, that admittedly we started on our own, to which we are now seemingly inextricably attached.

Most of us are older adults who have seen what smoking has done to our own family and friends and while the Government, Big Pharma and Tobacco continue playing their political games, we are seeking a viable alternative to polluting our bodies and the air around us.

We are not playing around here.

 

[Nuck]

I find vaping fun. Sitting back relaxing in front of movie it's just a really nice way to kick back.

If you want to try it..go for it. I assume you're over 18 and if you are I have no idea why you're getting such a hard time.

 

[CrystalLakeDave]

Well said Gep

 

[Nuck]

You know whats funny. The same people that ..... and moan about the antis, are showing the exact same intolerance towards someone else because they don't agree with his reasons for vaping...and he's not even talkin about using nicotine.

 

[idontusetobacco]

If you had close family that died from health problems caused by smoking. Why would you want to replicate it with or without nicotine? It seems that you are contradicting yourself with this statement.

...And you wonder why we are suspicious?

It is my understanding that the vapor that is inhaled contains PG, water, and flavorings. That's it. I'm sure there are probably sketchy manufacturers out there who might add other things too, but assuming I can find a respectable manufacturer and supplier (and I'm sure you folks can help me do that), I don't see anything to worry about. According to Wikipedia, PG metabolizes into pyruvic acid. So I inhale the stuff, it crosses the air/blood interface in my lungs, and ends up turning into the same thing that the sugars in all those girl scout cookies I've been eating do. I suppose PG itself could irritate my lungs as it enters my bloodstream, but I doubt I would be vaping enough for that to be an issue.

 

[taukimada]

okay idontusetobacco..

im gonna try not to simply dismiss you here...

so.. here's a good question for you...

seeing as ll the flavors involved with esmoking can be created simply by mixing say... some loranna flavoring with water and dabbing it on your toungue... why in THE HELL.. would one wish to take the unknown risks of taking it into one's lungs?

i'm really not asking to be a d*ck.. it's just a point that needs to be made.. i can understand you like the flavoring.. it can be an enjoyble experience.. where the REAL problem comes in... is what happens when you realize that the feeling you enjoyed at the hookah bar wasn't the flavor?

you are NOT going to find anybody on this forum who is outright going to encourage you to pick up vaping if you are not/ never have been a tobacco user.. truly.. cssreb actually had the perfect and easy answer.. NO! it's not about being mean (which some replies have come off as) it's about those of us with an addiction to nicotine (thus experience) are truly in fear of the hazards you are talking about purposely exposing yourself to.

if you MUST try it out... i suggest going to your local pilot truck stop and grabbing one.. BUT.. the carts will have nicotine in them.. and you REALLY dont want to go there.. so you'll need to remove all traces of the stock juice before you do ANYTHING with it!!

my best suggestion though.. is just go to lorann's website and order some flavorings and find something to mix them with that you can drink or soak in your mouth for the flavor.. it is honestly best that you DO NOT pick up vaping... it's all meant in YOUR best interests

 

[gep]

Bottom line Idontsmoketobacco is this: Decide for yourself and stop rabble rousing.

Nuck: Love ya, but really, open your eyes.

Thank you Taukimada for being the voice of reason.


(Now where did I put my hormone patches, I'm having hot flashes.)

 

[CssReb]

According to Wikipedia, PG metabolizes into pyruvic acid. So I inhale the stuff, it crosses the air/blood interface in my lungs, and ends up turning into the same thing that the sugars in all those girl scout cookies I've been eating do. I suppose PG itself could irritate my lungs as it enters my bloodstream, but I doubt I would be vaping enough for that to be an issue.

That's it! It's the sugar that's addictive not the nicotine 8-o

where have I heard that before?