My vote is for the Kanger Aerotank. I too have a pos protank 2 and the aerotank is everything it should have been. And, if you want i believe you can put the aero base on your pt2 to make it work. They sell just the base for like 6$
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I also noted that replacing the coil in my protank mini, without cleaning, got it vaping brand new. I then cleaned the old coil (though din't know if I like that one, it's the 1.8 coil, find the 2.2 vapes better on mvp2), and it's ready to switch over. You can extend life of colds without rebuilding for very long time this way.
I just spent 120 bucks on gear and am about to go back to cigarettes if i dont get this solved soonI got a vamo v5 and a kanger protank 2. The vamo is great. the protank2 is a piece of crap. I read several threads on here with lots of people with the same problems of flooding and gurgling. i can get it to work for an hour or two then it will randomly start doing it again because, like i said, it is total crap. I just want to buy a tank that isnt crap. something that can withstand citrus/cinnamon. something that works great out of the box without ghetto rigging. something that doesnt start being crap in a few days or weeks down the road. something with cheap heads or whatever it needs to keep not being crap. something that will work on my vamo v5. and preferably something larger like a 5ml if possible but not required. any ideas?
What I always recommend is build a micro coil with a cotton wick and you won't have anymore leaking or flooding issues. I've been building my own coils for 5 months and with 8 different protanks and several people and vape shops I build them for, none have had a problem yet. The materials are hella cheap and once you learn the process, it takes maybe 5 minutes to build one.
Once you learn how easy a micro coil is, look into a Kayfun lite or one of the many clones.
RSST may suit you better; it's not that much more than a Protank, a significantly better smoke, and doesn't run into the gooey or burnt atomizers issue (although my Protank 3 with its dual atomizers are faring much better). If you're not up for the chore of rebuildables (like me) your local smoke shop should be able to redo it for you once a month. Of course, the catch is that you have to make sure it's not tipped over.
Derek, I agree. My Kayfun is the best smoke I have, even better than my Zen. But unscrewing it for a refill and redoing the cotton every few days is irritating at first, especially since my first few tries ended up (a) unscrewing the coil (the chimney was stuck, so I figured I should undo these random little screws) and (b) dumping juice everywhere on attempt #2 because I forgot to suction out first.
But a DIY you can tip over is worth the hassle IMO.
But a DIY you can tip over is worth the hassle IMO.
Kayfun/R91 is an easy build and is, in my opinion, an unbeatable combination of durability, flavour, vapour, portability and value.
Until someone comes up with a better design than the chimney style atty they are all I use.
(R91, Kayfun, Aqua, Taifun etc)
Until someone comes up with a better design than the chimney style atty they are all I use.
(R91, Kayfun, Aqua, Taifun etc)
I prefer a single coil reduced chamber genny, pulse g, with cotton, just BC it's more vapor @0.5 0hm ish, but the kfl, r91 is great, almost as good of vape n flavor but doesn't leak EVER . If you spend more than 2 min rewicking cotton in the kayfun your prolly not doing it right, that's hard to complain about, IMHO
I do have to say I just built a sub ohm bottom feeder and that my friends is as good as it gets, it doesn't leak, ever, holds 10mls of juice, I can run any build I want and it's shorter than my ProVari mini...
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I do have to say I just built a sub ohm bottom feeder and that my friends is as good as it gets, it doesn't leak, ever, holds 10mls of juice, I can run any build I want and it's shorter than my ProVari mini...
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I always seem to want to try the latest and greatest new thing. "Ooo, that's pretty, or thats tough looking" and come home and after a few hours seem disappointed. My experience has been my old faithful, always a great vape as long as I have a fresh carto and a charged battery, is the old DCT. Dual coil carto, easy to maintain, clean and refill. Inexpensive enough to own several and if you watch for sales, you can get the cartos that are regularly $3.50/pc for just recently, I paid $1.05/pc. Always go with a vari-volt battery...nothing fancy and I have both, so you can find your sweet spot. I am not a fan of any of the bottom loaded tanks. They just seem to have a wimpy vape and leaking issues.
I moved from changeable coil tanks to re-buildable coil tanks, and never looked back. In the land of rba's is where I've found the best vape possible and the most trouble free gear.
My favorites:
Vivi Nova Rev 2.5 (single top coil)
With this one I have lots of experience, as I started using them back when that's about all you could get in terms of an inexpensive 'rebuild-able tank'. I still use them when I want a light PV that goes easy on liquid consumption and has long battery life. There was a learning curve to taking these from a 'meh' vape to something I can really enjoy though.
Lesson 1: Don't turn them up too hot! The stock heads do best at low wattage (the coils are up top...very close to your mouth). Tune them to work at low wattage...pick liquids that do well in them (60/40 PG/VG does well with most flavors), and up the nic slightly more than I would for a regular carto, dripper, or bottom coil if needed.
Lesson 2: If they flood at your preferred heat and draw style, trim the wicks a little shorter. It was rare, but sometimes if the wicks were too long a drop or two of liquid could end up forming in the 510 connector and produce a gurgle.
Lesson 3: Some flavors came across as being muted. That's simple to fix...use a longer drip tip (which can also allow using hotter coils).
Lesson 4: I could make my own coils and wicks that last longer and vape better.
HCigar KayFun 3.1
All I can say is WoW! These are so easy to build and they really do work great! The way I'm currently building them isn't nearly as efficient as my customized Vivi Nova (uses more liquid and drains batteries faster), but it's quite possible to scale down the build to be every bit as efficient as my Vivi Novas. They are super flexible...air flow...coil and wick type/style. Currently I just do a 2 Ohm microcoil (that's 14 1/16" wraps of AWG 28 on cotton or silica). The only thing I don't like about them is the size/weight. They are pretty large and heavy (22mm dia, and around 9cm long...including the 510 connector...that's if you use the native mouth piece).
At the time I got the KayFun 3.1 clone...they were around $50 each...and I was reluctant to go there as I was quite happy with adding another Vivi Nova to the rotation every few months (Several individual tanks dedicated to my favorite flavors). Grabbing a pair of these KayFun like things is the best money I've ever thrown into any piece of Vaping hardware to date.
Stuff I've tried pretty extensively since 2011...just to give an idea of where I've been in the vaping journey...
Ego T (absolute worst for me)
901, 510, and 306 drippers...tons of brands...including the higher end Cisco spec stuff.
Cartos of many shapes/sizes/brands/types...and carto tanks...I do like these, but find them expensive to maintain to my taste (two days was average carto life for me).
All sorts of top coil clearos (CE2-CE4, Visions, etc. both single and dual coil configs)...all performing similar too Vivi Novas but without changeable heads.
Sapphire bottom coils (exotic cartos similar to the Ego T concept, but these actually worked pretty well).
Kanger T clearos (Made good vapor but I couldn't taste anything...more trouble than they were worth).
801 atties with stock carts (still a favorite with some flavors)
Vivi Nova 2.5 (regular and mini...they vape the same, just different size tanks).
Various RBA dripping atties...all good vapes but dripping is not my cup of tea for all day setups.
SmokTech RRST Genny Tank...vapes well, but not as easy to set up nor as portable as I'd like unless rigged with cotton...then it doesn't hold a candle to the KayFun for me.
Vivi Nova Rev 2.5 (single top coil)
With this one I have lots of experience, as I started using them back when that's about all you could get in terms of an inexpensive 'rebuild-able tank'. I still use them when I want a light PV that goes easy on liquid consumption and has long battery life. There was a learning curve to taking these from a 'meh' vape to something I can really enjoy though.
Lesson 1: Don't turn them up too hot! The stock heads do best at low wattage (the coils are up top...very close to your mouth). Tune them to work at low wattage...pick liquids that do well in them (60/40 PG/VG does well with most flavors), and up the nic slightly more than I would for a regular carto, dripper, or bottom coil if needed.
Lesson 2: If they flood at your preferred heat and draw style, trim the wicks a little shorter. It was rare, but sometimes if the wicks were too long a drop or two of liquid could end up forming in the 510 connector and produce a gurgle.
Lesson 3: Some flavors came across as being muted. That's simple to fix...use a longer drip tip (which can also allow using hotter coils).
Lesson 4: I could make my own coils and wicks that last longer and vape better.
HCigar KayFun 3.1
All I can say is WoW! These are so easy to build and they really do work great! The way I'm currently building them isn't nearly as efficient as my customized Vivi Nova (uses more liquid and drains batteries faster), but it's quite possible to scale down the build to be every bit as efficient as my Vivi Novas. They are super flexible...air flow...coil and wick type/style. Currently I just do a 2 Ohm microcoil (that's 14 1/16" wraps of AWG 28 on cotton or silica). The only thing I don't like about them is the size/weight. They are pretty large and heavy (22mm dia, and around 9cm long...including the 510 connector...that's if you use the native mouth piece).
At the time I got the KayFun 3.1 clone...they were around $50 each...and I was reluctant to go there as I was quite happy with adding another Vivi Nova to the rotation every few months (Several individual tanks dedicated to my favorite flavors). Grabbing a pair of these KayFun like things is the best money I've ever thrown into any piece of Vaping hardware to date.
Stuff I've tried pretty extensively since 2011...just to give an idea of where I've been in the vaping journey...
Ego T (absolute worst for me)
901, 510, and 306 drippers...tons of brands...including the higher end Cisco spec stuff.
Cartos of many shapes/sizes/brands/types...and carto tanks...I do like these, but find them expensive to maintain to my taste (two days was average carto life for me).
All sorts of top coil clearos (CE2-CE4, Visions, etc. both single and dual coil configs)...all performing similar too Vivi Novas but without changeable heads.
Sapphire bottom coils (exotic cartos similar to the Ego T concept, but these actually worked pretty well).
Kanger T clearos (Made good vapor but I couldn't taste anything...more trouble than they were worth).
801 atties with stock carts (still a favorite with some flavors)
Vivi Nova 2.5 (regular and mini...they vape the same, just different size tanks).
Various RBA dripping atties...all good vapes but dripping is not my cup of tea for all day setups.
SmokTech RRST Genny Tank...vapes well, but not as easy to set up nor as portable as I'd like unless rigged with cotton...then it doesn't hold a candle to the KayFun for me.
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The two most trouble free tanks I have would be my two cheapest. An Aspire BDC and a Hypertank 5ml.
Got my Aspire Nova ViVi-S pyrex tanks on Friday,so far pretty good,I'm new to vaping, 6+ wks analog free.
Halo Tritons ROCK,thats what I started with to get off analogs,6+ wks analog free!!!!
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If the goal is simplicity with decent vape quality (fill and go, no rebuilding) then an IBTanked carto tank and Ikenvapes punched cartos are pretty much the best I have tried. Gets expensive though, with replacement cartos at about $2 apiece.
If one is willing to build coils and wicks, and wants to save money over the long run, then RBAs (Rebuildable Atomizers, both Tanks/RTAs and Drippers/RDAs) open the doors up to a whole new world of vape quality. I find that vapor, flavor and TH are the best out of my drippers, followed closely by my RTAs, with cartos third and clearomizers a DISTANT fourth. I tend to favor RTAs because I do not like the inconvenience of dripping (and dripping while driving is clearly a no-no). RBAs may cost more initially, but recoup the cost in materials savings over the long run. That said, RBAs are not for everyone... they take some learning curve to master, and some folks just don't want to (or are unable to) rebuild coils and wicks.
Let's talk about costs for rebuildables. A bag of organic cotton balls costs $3.50, and is good for about a thousand wicks. My wicks last about a week before I replace them. 100 feet of Kanthal A1 wire in 28 gauge is under 8 bucks... and is good for at least 200 coils or about 16.67 years if you replace coils once per month. Rebuilt coils can last for 2 months or more. That puts the price of a coil and wick under 5 cents, compared to $1.50-$2.00 for a single carto or clearo head. One year of vaping an RBA can easily end up cheaper than one year of vaping a clearo or carto. See below...
Clearo $~20-30
52 heads (one per week) $78-$104
one year's total cost: $98-$134
or let's say heads/cartos last 2 weeks...
Clearo $~20-30
26 heads (one per 2 weeks) $39-$52
one year's total cost: $59-$82
Hcigar Kayfun 3.1 clone ~$40-$50
Cotton balls (1000+ wicks) ~$3.50
100 feet of Kanthal A1 wire (200 coils, assume they last one month) ~$8
total cost over 16.67 years: ~$51.50-61.50
Cost per year: $3.09-$3.69
I have cartos, clearomizers, RTAs and RDAs. They all work within their limitations. On the basis of vape quality, cost, and maintenance time/effort, my LEAST favorite devices are clearomizers, and my most favorite are RTAs. But ultimately, it's up to each individual to determine the best investment of their money/effort/time... and I really don't care what anyone else uses as long as I am happy with my results and they are happy with theirs. If someone asked for my advice, stating that they would like to avoid wasting time, money or patience, I would tell them to avoid clearomizers and go for rebuildables.
If one is willing to build coils and wicks, and wants to save money over the long run, then RBAs (Rebuildable Atomizers, both Tanks/RTAs and Drippers/RDAs) open the doors up to a whole new world of vape quality. I find that vapor, flavor and TH are the best out of my drippers, followed closely by my RTAs, with cartos third and clearomizers a DISTANT fourth. I tend to favor RTAs because I do not like the inconvenience of dripping (and dripping while driving is clearly a no-no). RBAs may cost more initially, but recoup the cost in materials savings over the long run. That said, RBAs are not for everyone... they take some learning curve to master, and some folks just don't want to (or are unable to) rebuild coils and wicks.
Let's talk about costs for rebuildables. A bag of organic cotton balls costs $3.50, and is good for about a thousand wicks. My wicks last about a week before I replace them. 100 feet of Kanthal A1 wire in 28 gauge is under 8 bucks... and is good for at least 200 coils or about 16.67 years if you replace coils once per month. Rebuilt coils can last for 2 months or more. That puts the price of a coil and wick under 5 cents, compared to $1.50-$2.00 for a single carto or clearo head. One year of vaping an RBA can easily end up cheaper than one year of vaping a clearo or carto. See below...
Clearo $~20-30
52 heads (one per week) $78-$104
one year's total cost: $98-$134
or let's say heads/cartos last 2 weeks...
Clearo $~20-30
26 heads (one per 2 weeks) $39-$52
one year's total cost: $59-$82
Hcigar Kayfun 3.1 clone ~$40-$50
Cotton balls (1000+ wicks) ~$3.50
100 feet of Kanthal A1 wire (200 coils, assume they last one month) ~$8
total cost over 16.67 years: ~$51.50-61.50
Cost per year: $3.09-$3.69
I have cartos, clearomizers, RTAs and RDAs. They all work within their limitations. On the basis of vape quality, cost, and maintenance time/effort, my LEAST favorite devices are clearomizers, and my most favorite are RTAs. But ultimately, it's up to each individual to determine the best investment of their money/effort/time... and I really don't care what anyone else uses as long as I am happy with my results and they are happy with theirs. If someone asked for my advice, stating that they would like to avoid wasting time, money or patience, I would tell them to avoid clearomizers and go for rebuildables.
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I've heard the exact same thing about the kanger. I make sure to keep mine at least a third full and that the coil is tightly screwed in. Also, I've found that my kanger will leak and gurgle if I chain vape it too often.
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