In search of te perfect cocnut recipe..... 4 attepts thus far and getting frustrated!

[Sweeney Todd]

Very cool, man. I'm working on getting my Dad into vaping so I always read these stories with interest.

One rarely discussed use of Capellas is, err, to flavor stuff other than juice. A few drops of Cap Vanilla Custard in coffee or soda gives a solid vanilla taste and even sweetens it up a bit. You might want to try that on your sweet tooth. Heck, I'm going to try coconut in my diet coke right now.

As far as the coconut goes, try Cap Coconut at 15% and Coconut 10% + Vanilla Custard 5% to get a feel for a "baseline" slightly sweet, creamy coconut. That'll help you judge how much sweetener you need.

 

[Tona Aspsusa]

This is so OT, but I'm feeling chatty...

ha! I'm the same way.. my coffee is like a liquid milkshake.. I got the coconut flavoring and often have coconut coffee with a ton of creamer and sugar. Black coffee makes me gag! I would imagine about half of my daily calorie intake comes from my morning coffee alone.

Hah! "Liquid milkshake" and "half my daily intake" is sometimes a good description of my morning coffee also. Only thing is that I can't stand cream or even half-fat milk in my coffee - I've tried, but it alters the taste from what I get with fat-free/skim milk so much that it becomes another drink, one I can't drink half a liter of.

Sometimes when I get stressed I get problems with eating, and mornings are always the worst, so I've actually at times seriously discussed the nutritional value of my morning coffees with my doctor .

Funny this is, I'm a big organic food nut and other than my sweet-tooth for coffee I eat very healthy

This OTOH is so not me - but then where I live antibiotics (or traces of it) in any meat or milk is forbidden, and the majority of hyper-engineered foods are so called "functional foods" (100% rye flour soft non-black bread, yoghurt-like fermented oat dessert), not pop-tarts (but I seldom buy sweet baked goods at all).

Now since I started vaping my interest in industrial food ingredients and additives has again crept to the fore - I've always been an obsessive label-reader. If I only had a cheap and reliable source of VG and PG I would probably try them in baked goods, candy, custards, maybe even some savoury sauces...
I tend to love food-technical advances - like the fact that I can buy flan/creme caramel mix that will produce a really nice texture without all the hassle of a bain-marie in the oven - and I would love to be able to buy various thickeners used in things like this (the magic ingredient in many custard/pudding mixes seems to be carragenan).

And after months of trying I finally got my mom to give vaping a try.We ordered her $100 worth of stuff today.. she's starting with the Riva, a tank and normal non-sweet tobacco. Eventually I'll mix hers if possible.... so far I've only done flavors, no pure tobacco juices. I ordered her the Umbrella tank with a bunch of pre-punched replacement cartos. She doesn't want to hassle with anything. I'm just SO happy I FINALLY talker her into it! She kept giving me the "yuck.. creepy" reaction when I tried to get her to try vaping... but she hates flavors so I think that's why she had that reaction. I just hope this works. She's 62 and has been smoking on and off for 40 years (well, she quit for 7 years once, so 32 to be accurate). I'll be so happy to not hear her horrid morning cough everyday if this works! I think I've bugged her daily, a constant e-cig commercial coming out of my mouth, for 3 months now

Oh I wish this would happen to me! My mother is much the same - only older, and never quit for longer than maybe a day.
She would really benefit from even exchanging half her cigs for vaping - her lung health is not good at all. (I haven't been dx:ed with any lung-problems, but just from switching 2/3 of my daily cigs to vaping with a month I noticed such a phenomenal improvement in stamina and general ease of breathing when running to catch a bus or a ferry.)

But I quickly gave up on evangelizing to my mom, it was just backfiring.
One problem when it comes to even making a push for her to take up vaping is that nicotine is NOT the most important thing in cigarettes for her - one or more of those elusive WTAs are. Nicotine patches etc makes her feel ill, but doesn't stave off the cravings *at all* for her.
Once I get my hands on some WTAs I will be nagging her into at least trying.

But this vaping thing is so weird: I never wanted to stop smoking, I wanted to be able to enjoy my smoking more, by smoking less.
The last six months before I started vaping my cigarette consumtion has shot through the roof (as a side effect of being prescribed a stimulant medication - weird, huh?), and I was really not enjoying it at all. It was purely a definitely pathological nicotine craving. Both smoking AND using a patch was no fun, and so horribly expensive it doesn't bear thinking about.
So I thought maybe I could exchange the patch for vaping... get back the joy and taste in smoking?

What happened was truly a surprise: Just a few days after getting my nic liquids and mixing my first nic-containing juices I found myself thinking "hmm, this is close, but not quite, maybe I should try adding something..." only to realize I was actually smoking an analog, and one of my absolute favourites at that!
So the thought that "Maybe, just maybe, I might some day quit combustible tobacco completely..." surfaced for the first time ever. I've been smoking for 26 years - never wanted to quit, often wanted to smoke a lot less, like 1/20th of what I actually smoked.

I am now smoking between 3 and 15 cigarettes per day, which is a lot but nothing compared to the 20-40 I was doing before vaping (recently even with the patch I just couldn't get below 20 for more than one or two days, and never below 16).
I was down to between 3 and 8 for over a week here, but cutting the WTAs that much that quickly was messing up my non-standard nervous system (diurnal rhythmn, appetite, constipation, depression), so after talking with my long-time doc I decided to not go below 6/day for at least a month (my doc incidentally has specialised in addiction (since I met her, she kindly keeps on a few "allround weirdoes" like me ), and is very interested in vaping and very surprised at my progress).
I might be less WTA-dependant than my mom - or maybe just more nicotine dependent/tolerant - but my brain and neurology doesn't take kindly to being deprived of those minute amounts of those other alkaloids.

 

[JGD]

The coconut cream pie recipe from page one is the only one I've had work for me.

I get my EM from TPA/TFA and the bottle is labeled, "Cotton Candy Flavor". I just never wanted to mess with the solid and got it premixed because I'm lazy.

OK, where's "page 1"? I really haven't learned how to navigate the DIY forums yet (obviously). I did have my best sucess yet by adding some Bavarian cream, some swet cream and about 40% coconut. But it's still far from perfect.

 

[JGD]

This is so OT, but I'm feeling chatty...



Hah! "Liquid milkshake" and "half my daily intake" is sometimes a good description of my morning coffee also. Only thing is that I can't stand cream or even half-fat milk in my coffee - I've tried, but it alters the taste from what I get with fat-free/skim milk so much that it becomes another drink, one I can't drink half a liter of.

Sometimes when I get stressed I get problems with eating, and mornings are always the worst, so I've actually at times seriously discussed the nutritional value of my morning coffees with my doctor .



This OTOH is so not me - but then where I live antibiotics (or traces of it) in any meat or milk is forbidden, and the majority of hyper-engineered foods are so called "functional foods" (100% rye flour soft non-black bread, yoghurt-like fermented oat dessert), not pop-tarts (but I seldom buy sweet baked goods at all).

Now since I started vaping my interest in industrial food ingredients and additives has again crept to the fore - I've always been an obsessive label-reader. If I only had a cheap and reliable source of VG and PG I would probably try them in baked goods, candy, custards, maybe even some savoury sauces...
I tend to love food-technical advances - like the fact that I can buy flan/creme caramel mix that will produce a really nice texture without all the hassle of a bain-marie in the oven - and I would love to be able to buy various thickeners used in things like this (the magic ingredient in many custard/pudding mixes seems to be carragenan).




Oh I wish this would happen to me! My mother is much the same - only older, and never quit for longer than maybe a day.
She would really benefit from even exchanging half her cigs for vaping - her lung health is not good at all. (I haven't been dx:ed with any lung-problems, but just from switching 2/3 of my daily cigs to vaping with a month I noticed such a phenomenal improvement in stamina and general ease of breathing when running to catch a bus or a ferry.)

But I quickly gave up on evangelizing to my mom, it was just backfiring.
One problem when it comes to even making a push for her to take up vaping is that nicotine is NOT the most important thing in cigarettes for her - one or more of those elusive WTAs are. Nicotine patches etc makes her feel ill, but doesn't stave off the cravings *at all* for her.
Once I get my hands on some WTAs I will be nagging her into at least trying.

But this vaping thing is so weird: I never wanted to stop smoking, I wanted to be able to enjoy my smoking more, by smoking less.
The last six months before I started vaping my cigarette consumtion has shot through the roof (as a side effect of being prescribed a stimulant medication - weird, huh?), and I was really not enjoying it at all. It was purely a definitely pathological nicotine craving. Both smoking AND using a patch was no fun, and so horribly expensive it doesn't bear thinking about.
So I thought maybe I could exchange the patch for vaping... get back the joy and taste in smoking?

What happened was truly a surprise: Just a few days after getting my nic liquids and mixing my first nic-containing juices I found myself thinking "hmm, this is close, but not quite, maybe I should try adding something..." only to realize I was actually smoking an analog, and one of my absolute favourites at that!
So the thought that "Maybe, just maybe, I might some day quit combustible tobacco completely..." surfaced for the first time ever. I've been smoking for 26 years - never wanted to quit, often wanted to smoke a lot less, like 1/20th of what I actually smoked.

I am now smoking between 3 and 15 cigarettes per day, which is a lot but nothing compared to the 20-40 I was doing before vaping (recently even with the patch I just couldn't get below 20 for more than one or two days, and never below 16).
I was down to between 3 and 8 for over a week here, but cutting the WTAs that much that quickly was messing up my non-standard nervous system (diurnal rhythmn, appetite, constipation, depression), so after talking with my long-time doc I decided to not go below 6/day for at least a month (my doc incidentally has specialised in addiction (since I met her, she kindly keeps on a few "allround weirdoes" like me ), and is very interested in vaping and very surprised at my progress).
I might be less WTA-dependant than my mom - or maybe just more nicotine dependent/tolerant - but my brain and neurology doesn't take kindly to being deprived of those minute amounts of those other alkaloids.

I totally get it. My first three weeks I smoked one or two cigs per day but my husband is SO anti-smoking that the most I could smoke in one day before vaping was about 10.... 0 when he worked.~sneaking is hard with 2 kids and an at home business together doing jewelry. But it slowly made me sick to smoke...... the more you cut down, the less you'll crave it. What are you using for a unit? Getting good vapor production is a big factor in my success. My Bloog just didn;t give me quit enough ooomph so I went to the Riva, which got me to stop smoking totally. Now I have the Buzz Pro and the vapor hit is stronger than an analog in ways and more satisfying. You'll get there.... baby steps if need be. Cut down one cig per week if that's all you can handle. Eventually you'll get there. I was a 20 year smoker ANd I ran an hour a day.. OUCH NOW I can breathe and run twice as far.. after 4 months! I had started having mysterious early morning asthma attacks which a doctor diagnosed as "panic attacks" (I have an extreme special needs son who is going through a tough phase *puberty* as well as a rambunctious toddler) and put me on some horrid benzo. Yeah, that really helped! I smoked twice as much and still had the asthma in the morning. Now? No more random morning asthma. My anxiety is MUCH better... probably due to the lack of guilt and shame of smoking. I'm FREE! You'll get there... just believe it

 

[Tona Aspsusa]

Continuing the OT... ;-)

But it slowly made me sick to smoke...... the more you cut down, the less you'll crave it.

Oh, I totally noticed that - wrt cravings I was doing ok on <5 very quickly, but my general organism was going hay wire. I didn't actually put these things together until I talked with my doc, told her all about the research I had done, about WTAs and my hunt for them etc. Her reaction to how much I had cut down, and then her quiet question "these symptoms, when did they start, when did they get really bad?" made a lightbulb go off...

What are you using for a unit?

I have an Ego-T (and some 510 small batts and both 510-t and regular atties), but I mostly use either cartomizers (both reg. and low resistance) or dripping. After trying the cartos (both Boge and Kanger) and dripping, the -T systems just don't taste that good anymore.

Getting good vapor production is a big factor in my success. [...]

I've been going back and forth about vapour - I *thought* I didn't really care that much for it, but then I ran out of good VG, and have now been vaping also stuff that is 100% PG. And the 100% PG just isn't that satisfying to me. They say that PG is a better medium for flavour, but I am starting to wonder if I am weird in that respect too.
I'm also starting to suspect that I am a bit sensitive to the drying effects of PG - at least now in the winter when our in-door air is ultra-dry already.

Cut down one cig per week if that's all you can handle. Eventually you'll get there. I was a 20 year smoker ANd I ran an hour a day.. OUCH NOW I can breathe and run twice as far.. after 4 months! I had started having mysterious early morning asthma attacks which a doctor diagnosed as "panic attacks" (I have an extreme special needs son who is going through a tough phase *puberty* as well as a rambunctious toddler) and put me on some horrid benzo. Yeah, that really helped! I smoked twice as much and still had the asthma in the morning. Now? No more random morning asthma. My anxiety is MUCH better... probably due to the lack of guilt and shame of smoking. I'm FREE! You'll get there... just believe it

Not being a sporting person at all - I only run if I'm in a hurry - I have been really surprised at how much of an improvement I've seen, and how quickly.
"Panic attacks", aka physical symptoms of stress, aka "wrong gear" aka "adrenaline overload" (this last one courtesy of my mother who used it to explain to me as a child why it took some time after a rage-attack before I could eat anything without throwing up) are the pits. Luckily for me I had already established that benzos are very unpleasant things for me when I started having episodes where my heart rate just refused to come down to comfortable levels. Beta-blockers and the knowledge that this is nothing serious or dangerous, just the system getting stuck in "wrong gear" helped.

My dream is to smoke maybe 2-7 cigarettes per week. And really good ones (which means not something available locally - probably the kind of ultra-expensive things one can find in better German tobacco shops). Enjoy them like people enjoy fine cigars. (Cigarettes and not mini-cigars or something like that because I've never yet encountered a cigar or a cigarillo that I both liked the taste of and that didn't last faaaar too long for me, becoming too strong and/or too stinky. One reason I really like vaping is that it is so easy to just take one or two puffs at a time, and the next one five or ten or twenty minutes later.)

 

[Hoosier]

OK, where's "page 1"?

Just before and just after the series of posts that make a page are the pages. Towards the right hand side.

It will tell you that you are on page X of Y and have links to First, previous, First, 1, 2, 3, etc etc, next, Last.