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Clouds aren't a function of the mod, but the atty.
I would say this is only partially correct. Sure, in order to blow big cloudz, you you'll need an atty designed to do that. But such atties require lots of power. If you put a cloudz-bro atty on a mod that can only make a few tens of watts, it's going to be an unsatisfactory experience; it won't vape well at all. So it's actually a function of both.
 

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Your desired nic concentration decreases as you increase the wattage, since more liquid is vaporized in each puff.

It's a wonder that I was able to quit after 9 months at 24mg and then drop down to 3mg freebase vaping at 10W for the last 8 years or so. It's a good thing I didn't see that chart! I would still be at 18mg to 24mg today. I mixed some 12mg a week ago for comparison, hoping I could vape less frequently and it was like huffing a Marlboro Red. I got a little dizzy after a few hits.
 

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I would say this is only partially correct. Sure, in order to blow big cloudz, you you'll need an atty designed to do that. But such atties require lots of power. If you put a cloudz-bro atty on a mod that can only make a few tens of watts, it's going to be an unsatisfactory experience; it won't vape well at all. So it's actually a function of both.
Maybe, but splitting hairs on semantics. If you have an mtl atty, no matter what mod you have, you're limited by that atty, and can't make it a cloud machine. Right now, he's using a Nord, and says he's looking to replicate smoking. So my point is, he'd need to choose a cloud atty if he wants clouds. I believe the 75W would drive most builds, but maybe not super aggressive cloud machines.

So the cloud is a function of the atty rather than/more than the mod, although you obviously want to pair your equipment well.

Maybe it'd be like one of those fact checkers: True, but more context required. :)
 
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Vaping related charts & graphs are pretty much worthless considering everything to do with vaping are matters of personal preferences.
Some can be useful, and decently representative, but it doesn't get much more subjective than "satisfaction."
And I don't know the source of the chart, but it has watts without ohms. I guess it assumes a range.
I'm not satisfied at all, according to the chart. I'm about here:
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I am fine with mods too, I just want something that takes in high nictone without causing cough or harshness in throat and also cause huge clouds. I am planning to order new device asap incase nord times out.

I looked at Innokin Kroma/Zenith it says 75w. Is this sufficient power/wattage? I am planning to hold the device for long term. Are there any 150/200w devices (is that much wattage needed for me at this point?) that dont cause throat burn and cause clouds on 24mg nic
Any other suggestions for mod kits or else I will order this kroma/zenith tonight
 

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Maybe, but splitting hairs on semantics. If you have an mtl atty, no matter what mod you have, you're limited by that atty, and can't make it a cloud machine.
But we can turn this right around and say, "No matter what atty you have, if you're limited by a low-power mod, you can't make it into a cloud machine." So to me, it's both. :)

An MTL atty can be made to work on just about any mod, but a cloud-chasing atty needs a high-powered mod.
 
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But we can turn this right around and say, "No matter what atty you have, if you're limited by a low-power mod, you can't make it into a cloud machine." So to me, it's both. :)

An MTL atty can be made to work on just about any mod, but a cloud-chasing atty needs a high-powered mod.

What do you think cloud chasing atty/tank/mod I should order? Any kit which includes all
 

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Any other suggestions for mod kits or else I will order this kroma/zenith tonight

It doesn't come in ' kit ' form - Geekvape aegis Solo + Innokin zenith.

Solo uses a replaceable / removal 18650 cell, is fairly tough, simple to use & small.
The zenith plexus .5Ω heads with fully opened airflow produce surprising cloudz for a restricted / tight Dtl or loose Mtl.

The Kroma/zenith is not a 'cloud blower' or 'bro cloudz' type setup.
It will produce very adequate clouds for a Mtl or restricted Dtl style.

The Aegis Solo 'kit' comes with a Cerberus 'tank' & mesh coil type replaceable heads that do produce substantial cloudage.

Of course either depending on Pg/Vg ratio.
 
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Some can be useful, and decently representative, but it doesn't get much more subjective than "satisfaction."
And I don't know the source of the chart, but it has watts without ohms. I guess it assumes a range.
I'm not satisfied at all, according to the chart.
It seems I too am out of the "satisfaction zone".

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I guess I'd better start mixing at 24 mg instead of 13, or start running 0.4 ohm or lower builds? :blink:
 

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What do you think cloud chasing atty/tank/mod I should order? Any kit which includes all
Sorry, I'm not in a position to make a recommendation because I'm strictly an MTL vaper. That style of vaping became my replacement for a 36 year old smoking habit 5-1/2 years ago, and I have no desire to blow big clouds.
 
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Every review that I have read says 10 to 15 watts maximum. I'm curious as to where you got this info from?
It's based on coil choice. With the 1.4,ohm, it'll max out at 15. With the 0.6, it'll hit 30. Might be slightly inflated, as those are marketing numbers from Smok, but the .... Dyno says it's about right.

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It's based on coil choice. With the 1.4,ohm, it'll max out at 15. With the 0.6, it'll hit 30. Might be slightly inflated, as those are marketing numbers from Smok, but the .... Dyno says it's about right.

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I stand corrected, thanks for your reply.
 

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Okay, you guys made me look. Not that important, but 30W sounded huge for an 1100mAh pod, so I had to check the Smoktech site. They list the unit as 10-15W. I think the confusion comes from the fact that you can use the 0.6 ohm coil, which has max wattage of 25. But apparently you'd have to use it in one of their other devices to get that.
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30w is nothing for any single cell li-ion battery, esp at 0.6 ohms. Take a look at the Orion DNA go. That has a 950maH battery and hits 40w. As the Nord is a direct voltage output device, it's easy enough to do the math and determine wattage. (4.35)(4.35)/0.6=31.5w.

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