Indulgence - First Look

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Davidyang

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DI. are you saying i can simply screw on a cartomizer to the dpv9-901 thread, meaning we dont need the 901 to cartomizer adapter.

I hope thats the case becuase i hate cartomizers on a 901/cart adapter.

Hi, Yes, DPV9/KR808D-1 /901 has the same connector, there is no need for the adapter for them. cheers
 

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DI. are you saying i can simply screw on a cartomizer to the dpv9-901 thread, meaning we dont need the 901 to cartomizer adapter.

I hope thats the case becuase i hate cartomizers on a 901/cart adapter.

Hi, Yes, DPV9/KR808D-1 /901 has the same connector, there is no need for the adapter for them. cheers


Yes, BK,
as David said,

the DPV9 carty screw straight onto the 901 thread cap
no adapters needed for any of the attys they all screw directly onto the thread caps

it is fabulous,
and it smokes soooooooooooooooo good ----- MM :pervy::pervy::wub::hubba:
I love it ----- :w00t::thumbs:
 

KonaNeil

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Although, I think I see where your coming, many of the most famous products use "stock" fonts in their logo's or just the simple font in their products. The only thing that's missing from the Indulgence engraving is a symbol, but I don't think it's needed. Often times, these popular products that we have don't always have the logos to accompany it.

But, if you see this "stock" engraving enough, it'll be just as normal as seeing the "stock fonts" from Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Honda, Sprite, Dr Pepper, Bic, Pepsi, A&W, HP, DELL, JVC, Panasonic, Microsoft, Xbox 360, etc..... names written that we've grown accustomed to accept.

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it! :)

Out of curiosity I went through your list from Chevy to Bic. None of these appear to be standard fonts. I wanted to copy them here but most of the product pages now are in Flash making this difficult.

I'm a product designer. Logos and labeling are never my responsibility but I work with a graphic designer who may start with a standard font and modify from there. She will spend many, many hours just on one word, even many iterations of one letter and its spacing to the next letter. Beyond optimizing impact and acceptance, there are several other reasons for this including protection from other companies copying the look of your name even if they can't pirate your actual name. We don't see it much in the US but in Asia there's been a fifty year history of brand names like Pony, Toni and Panatonic.
 

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Out of curiosity I went through your list from Chevy to Bic. None of these appear to be standard fonts. I wanted to copy them here but most of the product pages now are in Flash making this difficult.

I'm a product designer. Logos and labeling are never my responsibility but I work with a graphic designer who may start with a standard font and modify from there. She will spend many, many hours just on one word, even many iterations of one letter and its spacing to the next letter. Beyond optimizing impact and acceptance, there are several other reasons for this including protection from other companies copying the look of your name even if they can't pirate your actual name. We don't see it much in the US but in Asia there's been a fifty year history of brand names like Pony, Toni and Panatonic.
Firstly, what exactly do you consider standard font? I can jump on adobe and run through 200 different font styles, and although there would be minute differences, it's certainly close enough.

Some of those may have been bad examples, some of them are subtly changed from a standard font. Such as Chevrolet. The only alteration from what appears to be a standard print lettering is the e connecting to the v and t, and a small gap between the bend of the R that meets back to itself.

As you pointed out, there is a multitude of reasons for why names/logos are written as such. But ultimately it's to define it as their own, yet keep it legible and familiar to it's viewer, often times through subtle change from the borrowed font.

What battery mod on the market, do you know to have this font or any font? Essentially it is the first to have this script, therefore it stands on it's own right. There isn't a need to customize the written for possible confusion with another on the market.

From what I'm gathering, if Eastmall turned the D backwards, you would then approve of it, because it would no longer be standardized?

They aren't just marketing the name, it's the product. For that matter, there should be eastmall plastered all over this device should that be the intent.

I'm an artist as well. Been a maquette sculptor for 15 years, so I can appreciate art when I see it. I can also accept simplicity at its best. Sometimes, individuality and the customization that's commonly shrouded as art, can surely be,....just plain and simple.

But, enough about the font. Where's the Obsession at?:thumbs:
 

badkolo

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are people really arguing over the engraving on the idulgence. really?

while i understand there are some pv's out there with no engraving I just dont get the hate.


I understand people wanting one with no graving but to go on and on over it boggles my mind.

In your hand you dont see it and even when you do see it ,its fine.
Does your tv or car come without a symbol. NO

Di, thanks for the 808 info, i hate the adapters and the news that we dont need one just pushed the indulgence over the top. cause i have other pv's and they all need the stupid adapter.

Now where can i get this juice tank, that looks hot
 

Technobob

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Now where can i get this juice tank, that looks hot

If this is the juice tank your talking about here are the links the site is in French
http://www.forum-ecigarette.com/videos-des-membres-f130/ggt-bombinette-bidibulle-t8156.html#p150574
La Bombinette de Bidibulle : E-Bricolage et Prototypes • FORUM-ECIGARETTE

fd9155fc-3bb0-4129-9cb4-424e81bdb20a.jpg
 

badkolo

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techno bob, i dont mean to come off dumb but i dont speak that language, and while i've had a computer starting with the commodore64 i still am not fluint in changing languages.

I think its italian, and im italian but dont speak it.
I havent messed with any language option to translate it in firefox, ill look it up I guess.

I need this amazing add-on
 

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are people really arguing over the engraving on the idulgence. really?
while i understand there are some pv's out there with no engraving I just dont get the hate.
I understand people wanting one with no graving but to go on and on over it boggles my mind.

I didn't see anyone go on and on over it, 2 or 3 people didn't care for it for different reasons. Me I mentioned it once and just think the word itself is...is...um silly, I wouldn't mind a logo though.

Define: indulgence

an inability to resist the gratification of whims and desires
a disposition to yield to the wishes of someone; "too much indulgence spoils a child"
the act of indulging or gratifying a desire
folly: foolish or senseless behavior
the remission by the pope of the temporal punishment in purgatory that is still due for sins even after absolution; "in the Middle Ages the unrestricted sale of indulgences by pardoners became a widespread abuse"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Silly name just an opinion. Get over it. Looks like a cross cultural language misunderstanding, thats all. One doesn't have to be a fanboy and love every little hair on the "The Indulgence" head to like the device in general.

I might really like a car but if they engraved "PROTRUSION" on the side....mmm not so much.....
 

Technobob

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Technobob:

Is that a titanium Indulgence? How did you get one of those?

Nope it's a sticker wrapped around a silver Indulgence. I wish I had the titanium but soon will as soon as David has them in stock. Oh and thats not my pic it was posted on another thread.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/eastmall-ecigarette/59934-updated-indulgence.html#post903701

Bob,

Not being judgmental but curious if this holding tank system came out before or after the similar looking GG unit?

Can't help you don't know what a GG unit is nor do I know anything about the juice tank. I wouldn't mind trying one thou it looks like it could be very useful.
 

Di

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I didn't see anyone go on and on over it, 2 or 3 people didn't care for it for different reasons. Me I mentioned it once and just think the word itself is...is...um silly, I wouldn't mind a logo though.

Define: indulgence

an inability to resist the gratification of whims and desires
a disposition to yield to the wishes of someone; "too much indulgence spoils a child"
the act of indulging or gratifying a desire
folly: foolish or senseless behavior
the remission by the pope of the temporal punishment in purgatory that is still due for sins even after absolution; "in the Middle Ages the unrestricted sale of indulgences by pardoners became a widespread abuse"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Silly name just an opinion. Get over it. Looks like a cross cultural language misunderstanding, thats all. One doesn't have to be a fanboy and love every little hair on the "The Indulgence" head to like the device in general.

I might really like a car but if they engraved "PROTRUSION" on the side....mmm not so much.....


the act of indulging or gratifying a desire

this one thanks ---- :w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t::w00t:
 
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