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Now that's a thought - higher ohms to preserve battery life. My GS Airs use 1.5 ohm coils, so that's what I'm used to running at. A few weeks ago I started vaping on Erlkonigin clones and I just automatically wrapped 1.5 ohm coils. Maybe next time I change coils I'll go up to 2 ohms and see how that affects my battery life. :thumb:

It helps a bit, and I sometimes go as high as 1.8, but I guess I've just gotten used to the 1.5-1.7 builds, I seem to prefer them, so the very slight diff in battery life seems like a fair trade to me. 7 wraps, 29ga, 3/32, and I mount it pretty high for good TH. That build generally puts me somewhere between 1.65-1.7Ω; most mods will measure it to 1.7, it's just the CF4 with the x.xx ohms display shows the resolution a little more finely. Sometimes I might use 6 wraps, or 8, but neither really seems satisfactory to me; 6 wraps, and though the resistance is lower, it's just not enough wraps to make good vapor; 8 wraps, and it starts to seem just a little slow to me, have to take longer hits -- and my norm is already 4-5 secs, so that's a pretty long hit! :D

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As Andria says, build to your taste. Battery life (between charges) is secondary - you DO have backups, right ;)

And keep in mind that not every topper works best at the same value. I tend to wind my KFs to 1.5, my Kanger single coil units to 1.8 and with a finer gauge. (Gauge will also affect the vape. Thicker wire is slower to heat and cool.)
 

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It appears the battery was placed in backwards. If so quite obviously no protection. This is what frightens me about starting new vapers on such devices. The fixed internal battery sure prevents this does it not? No skill needed.
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It appears the battery was placed in backwards. If so quite obviously no protection. This is what frightens me about starting new vapers on such devices. The fixed internal battery sure prevents this does it not? No skill needed. View attachment 488790

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It helps a bit, and I sometimes go as high as 1.8, but I guess I've just gotten used to the 1.5-1.7 builds, I seem to prefer them, so the very slight diff in battery life seems like a fair trade to me. 7 wraps, 29ga, 3/32, and I mount it pretty high for good TH. That build generally puts me somewhere between 1.65-1.7Ω; most mods will measure it to 1.7, it's just the CF4 with the x.xx ohms display shows the resolution a little more finely. Sometimes I might use 6 wraps, or 8, but neither really seems satisfactory to me; 6 wraps, and though the resistance is lower, it's just not enough wraps to make good vapor; 8 wraps, and it starts to seem just a little slow to me, have to take longer hits -- and my norm is already 4-5 secs, so that's a pretty long hit! :D

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Is that why people pull their coils higher after they mount them? When I first started building the ErlK's, I watched a bunch of videos and everyone did that but no one said why. I even searched this forum trying to find an answer, but couldn't find anything (I think the forum search is broken). I figured it must be important, so I pulled my coils higher, too. Then I started vaping them and loved the flavor but was surprised at the throat hit I was getting. I've been vaping 3 mg for quite awhile now, so it's been awhile since I've really gotten much throat hit from my vape. I don't like a lot of TH, though, so next time I'll know to not mount the coils so high.

As Andria says, build to your taste. Battery life (between charges) is secondary - you DO have backups, right ;)

And keep in mind that not every topper works best at the same value. I tend to wind my KFs to 1.5, my Kanger single coil units to 1.8 and with a finer gauge. (Gauge will also affect the vape. Thicker wire is slower to heat and cool.)

David, I've got backups to the backups to the backups. And a bunch more mods in my vapocalypse kit. So I guess I really don't need more battery life when you look at it that way. :D

I do love these ErlK's with a 1.5 ohm coil, but I haven't tried anything else, so who knows if I might like it better.
 

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Is that why people pull their coils higher after they mount them? When I first started building the ErlK's, I watched a bunch of videos and everyone did that but no one said why. I even searched this forum trying to find an answer, but couldn't find anything (I think the forum search is broken). I figured it must be important, so I pulled my coils higher, too. Then I started vaping them and loved the flavor but was surprised at the throat hit I was getting. I've been vaping 3 mg for quite awhile now, so it's been awhile since I've really gotten much throat hit from my vape. I don't like a lot of TH, though, so next time I'll know to not mount the coils so high.

David, I've got backups to the backups to the backups. And a bunch more mods in my vapocalypse kit. So I guess I really don't need more battery life when you look at it that way. :D

I do love these ErlK's with a 1.5 ohm coil, but I haven't tried anything else, so who knows if I might like it better.

Yeah, I learned the "mount high" trick when I first got a Kayfun, and had to fiddle with it a bit, since the Kayfun gave me a lot more TH than the old T3S's did! But of course whatever you get used to, soon you want more. :D (which might explain the 150w mods! :lol:) What David said is very true; when I first got my Achilles, since the build deck is nearly identical to a Kayfun's (except needing longer wicks for the deep well), I built just like I do for a Kayfun -- but it made me cough, because the Achilles provides a LOT more TH, so I had to decrease from 10w to 8.5-9w, and from 10mg to 9mg, and fiddle some more with best height. Now that I've gotten used to it, I've gone back to mounting it pretty high, but I'm sticking with the lower wattage and nicotine. I think the highest I've ever needed to go with an Achilles was 9.5w, which was on an extremely gunky coil that really needed just a bit more oomph.

Also, as for mounting high -- with a Magma, it's a good idea to build high, and slightly off-center of the airhole on the deck; it keeps so much juice from running into the air hole, which seems to be why the Magma leaks so much.

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I guess I'll have to play around with the coil height, then. It's been a long time since I've had much throat hit with my vape and I've come to like it better without. Thankfully, I haven't had any leaking problems with the ErlK once I learned the proper way to fill it. So far I've had very few problems, which surprised me. I thought I'd be struggling to get the wicking right and struggling with the coils. But ECF has so much information on every tank imaginable that I read up on that before I even started. If I'd just picked one up at a B & M, I'd probably have long since thrown it in the trash. :D
 

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Coil height can make a big difference. But - and in general! - too low and your topper will leak, or at least weep, out the air intake. I find on my KFs that about 2mm up works well. Too high and you run the risk of shorting it out when you do the final chimney assembly, so double check the resistance after fully assembling. (Well, that's good practice, anyway!)
 

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Coil height can make a big difference. But - and in general! - too low and your topper will leak, or at least weep, out the air intake. I find on my KFs that about 2mm up works well. Too high and you run the risk of shorting it out when you do the final chimney assembly, so double check the resistance after fully assembling. (Well, that's good practice, anyway!)

Same for the Achilles -- too high, and you run into the lil dealie-bop on the inside of the topcap:



I get a *tiny* bit of seepage via the airflow with the Achilles, but the top of the airhole, right under the coil, is so tiny, it never amounts to much -- might see just a *trace* of moisture on the top of the mod, but never much, and never down in the 510. I got a lot more seepage than that from one of my Kayfuns.

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When I'm not working, the Achilles is what is between my lips! Fallen in love with this titanium beauty I have. I see a couple more in my future. They are a tootle puffers dream.

Tootle puffers' DREAM COME TRUE! I keep saying that, because it's true! :D I haven't used my Kayfuns in months. About 3-4 wks ago I got one of them cleaned up, new coil, fresh wick, great juice... and it's just awful. It's still laying there on the counter, kinda sad looking. :D

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Greetings all. I have an isub tank coming in and I'm embarassed to say I've never owned a tank before much less used prebuilt coils. I had a ce4 and ego for about a week when I was testing the waters with vaping and then got a regulated mod and rda mainly becuase it seemed to be cheaper to rebuild rather than buying premade coils and I was/am on a pretty tight budget and have been using drippers even since so now here I am with a tank coming in and am pretty clueless.

Anything I need to know about using it or the premade coils that it uses; tips and tricks, etc? Is it possible to rebuild these coils? Thanks.
 

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    Greetings all. Anything I need to know about using it or the premade coils that it uses; tips and tricks, etc? Is it possible to rebuild these coils? Thanks.
    I doubt that pre made coils can be rebuilt, but I'm usually wrong about lots of things. Also, I'm unsure of the construction of this tank, but it probably has a tube in the middle. For air. Not juice. Be careful when filling the tank. Like a CE4, the tank will probably have to be held at an angle when filling.
     

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    I even searched this forum trying to find an answer, but couldn't find anything (I think the forum search is broken).

    Go to Google => type in => site:e-cigarette-forum.com ABC => where ABC is what you're searching for...
     
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