Inside the Drunker Tank

[bilboda]

Yeah .. he mixes for some really big juice vendor I thought. I can't remember.

They gave me the AGA-S ... made to be used with silica/cotton but can be used with mesh?

Something like that. I honestly have no idea what to do with it, but give me a half an hour with it and I'll get it going. Sweet looking tank, the top does NOT thread, so lining up the air hole will be a breeze. Happy!

Except now I have 7 RBAs and only 6 devices... And I had JUST got enough devices for my rebuildables. Dang!

There is an active CoOp for the Innoken SVD, just sayin, for your 7th device...

 

[JD1]

I've redone my drunker yet again lol. I had replaced the wicks and had it going great when I decided it was time to try doubling my 32 awg kanthal to get lower ohms for my bolt. (As suggested by albcig.) It worked like a charm. I lightly twisted the kanthal, and rolled a close spaced coil on a 1/16 in drill bit. (The coils are probably lightly touching in places.) The coil runs the entire length of the ceramic...in fact, I had to undo one wrap to fit it into the ceramic. Came out to 1.7 ohms and it's working great on my bolt.

The only thing was I forgot to flame my kanthal and I had a metallic taste the first few puffs. It went away pretty quick though.

 

[oplholik]

Where do you all get your Kanthal wire. I am interested in 32AWG and a couple smaller gages from there, and in 25' lengths. I know I've seen links to e-bay, but of course now I can't come up with them. Thanks.

 

[donnah]

I got my 30g at temco.com. I see they have the 32g 100ft for around $8 shipped.

you can also get smaller quantities at steammonkey

 

[DancingHeretik]

Kanthal A 1 Wire 32 Gauge 0080 Resistance Heating Wire 100 Ft | eBay

ETA: You beat me to it! And, yours is cheaper too!

 

[donnah]

I just put a new wick in my drunker without taking the coil out.

Very easy, much easier then tearing it all apart and making a new coil! Filled it up and letting it soak. Right now, I've got the top cap off and it's laying on it's side. I'm trying to see if it will leak out the the top "coil holes" so far, after 15 or so minutes, it hasn't leaked and doesn't look like it's going to.

The drunker has been my "throw in my purse and run out the door" device. But I've always took pains to make sure it stays reasonably upright in my purse.. My carto tanks took a while to build up my trust and it's the same with this LOL.

edit.. it's been laying on it's side for 45 minutes now and no leaking at all. The wicks are nice and moist (I hate that word) but everything else is dry.

 

[JD1]

I just put a new wick in my drunker without taking the coil out. .....

Careful there. You just missed a chance to wrap yet another coil lol.

Seriously though, I'm thinking that one of the advantages of pre wrapping a coil around a drill bit or something is that it seems to make it easier to pull the wick back out without tearing up the coil. The kanthal should last a good while before it pops.

But I have to admit, I've yet to use any coil I've made until it pops. I'm always redoing it to experiment with a different size or something. I think I have it dialed in though, and maybe I'll get maximum use out of the coils I have now.

 

[adeline]

Seriously though, I'm thinking that one of the advantages of pre wrapping a coil around a drill bit or something is that it seems to make it easier to pull the wick back out without tearing up the coil. The kanthal should last a good while before it pops.

But I have to admit, I've yet to use any coil I've made until it pops. I'm always redoing it to experiment with a different size or something. I think I have it dialed in though, and maybe I'll get maximum use out of the coils I have now.

Definitely. Once I found the right size implement to wrap my coil, it's what I've been doing. It's so much easier to swap out the cotton than to rebuild altogether. Even for easy rebuilds (2-post drippers), it's fewer steps.

Cheesecloth wicks, though, I have to wrap around. They're impossible to feed through a coil. But they are easy to de-thread and pull out. Then you gotta find the right wick to go back in...

 

[JD1]

......They gave me the AGA-S ... made to be used with silica/cotton but can be used with mesh? ....

I recommend trying a spin-E setup in that AGA. It's fairly easy to do and vapes and tastes a lot like the 804. If you decide to try it, here's how I set it up in one of my duds.

Wrap 12 very close wraps on a needle, and install on the AGA. Since there's no wick, the inside diameter of the coil can be small. 12 wraps of 32 gives around 3 ohms and provides quite a bit of surface area. You can still power it from a vv device easy enough.

Cut some strips from the rounds and place them between the coil and center post. You don't want it packed tight, just lightly against the coil. The cotton will expand and press against the coil.

And that's it. Give it an overnight soak and start making fog lol.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nt-cottons-different-wicks-7.html#post8220059

Edit: I should add that you don't need the cotton at the back unless you want more capacity. I'd suggest starting out with enough to deliver five or six drops at a time, then add more if you want.

 

[JD1]

......Cheesecloth wicks, though, I have to wrap around. They're impossible to feed through a coil. But they are easy to de-thread and pull out. Then you gotta find the right wick to go back in...

Some tips, most of them from quigsworth1, on cheese cloth.

Square up the cheese cloth and cut between a couple of threads (as much as possible) as a guide.
Measure for repeatable results. (I use a 1/2 in. strip to wick a coil made on a 1/16 in drill bit for example).
Rake out the cross threads for about a 1/2 in. at one end of the strip in order to make a smaller starting diameter.
Fold the edges in toward the center on both sides a couple of times then roll and twist into wick shape.
Twist the end where you raked out the cross threads. You can even snip off a few of the long threads and twist the remaining ones down to a small size.
As you go through feed holes and coil, twist the wick to make it pull through easier.

Makes working with cheese cloth fairly easy but I have to admit I've went to the rounds for everything now.

 

[xMackx]

Donna, what ohm and awg is your coil?

 

[adeline]

I recommend trying a spin-E setup in that AGA. It's fairly easy to do and vapes and tastes a lot like the 804. If you decide to try it, here's how I set it up in one of my duds.

Wrap 12 very close wraps on a needle, and install on the AGA. Since there's no wick, the inside diameter of the coil can be small. 12 wraps of 32 gives around 3 ohms and provides quite a bit of surface area. You can still power it from a vv device easy enough.

Cut some strips from the rounds and place them between the coil and center post. You don't want it packed tight, just lightly against the coil. The cotton will expand and press against the coil.

And that's it. Give it an overnight soak and start making fog lol.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nt-cottons-different-wicks-7.html#post8220059

Edit: I should add that you don't need the cotton at the back unless you want more capacity. I'd suggest starting out with enough to deliver five or six drops at a time, then add more if you want.

That looks ... interesting.

Is there no wick going down into the tank?? I don't GET it. lol

 

[xMackx]

That looks ... interesting.

Is there no wick going down into the tank?? I don't GET it. lol

Yes the wick goes down into the tank then wrapped around the positive post. The coil is pressed against the wick, rather than going through the coil. It's a method that works primarily with genesis style atties as cotton can be tricky with those.

 

[adeline]

Yes the wick goes down into the tank then wrapped around the positive post. The coil is pressed against the wick, rather than going through the coil. It's a method that works primarily with genesis style atties as cotton can be tricky with those.

As I'm finding out the hard way, lol. I haven't checked on it in a while, but gravity seems like it isn't my friend in the AGA. At least with cotton. I'll give that a shot once I burn the crap out of my current wick!

 

[donnah]

Donna, what ohm and awg is your coil?

This one is metering 2.7ohms.. I don't remember what gauge the wire is. I've been using 30g on my mesh rba's but don't know if that's what's in here. The ohms may be a bit high but it's working well and I'm not going to mess with the coil again till I have to. I'm still right smack dab in the middle of the learning curve with the DID (actually I'm heading towards the end of that curve and can actually see the light at the end of the tunnel LOL)

As much experience as I had with the vvn's, the drunker was a piece of cake. The only problem I had with it was in the beginning when I once didn't cut the wire coming off the bottom close enough and it kept shorting out. I do the twist now

 

[Larzis]

So got my Drunker in last week. So far.... not sure what to make of it. Not a problem really with the tank, more of me learning how to set it up.

Worked fine with the initial coil and wick, but this weekend I decided to change it out with some replacements. Just to get an idea how it works. So changed it out, checked resistance everything is fine, connect the top part to the tank and.... nothing. Figured I screwed up with the coil and wick so replaced again and same problem. After some fiddling around I think I found the culprit. Seems when I put the center pin back in I pushed it in too far, so it could not make full contact once fully assembled. Pulling the pin out a hair seemed to do the trick.

So yeah all in all a nice tank, just need to learn more of the ins and outs of putting things together.

 

[weisner]

Adeline,

Are you still using the silver beads for crimping zero resistance legs on your Drunker? If so I would really like to see a photo or two of what that looks like. I am quite curious to know how that worked out since I don't recall seeing any posts after you ordered the silver beads.

Thanks and happy Vaping!

 

[adeline]

Adeline,

Are you still using the silver beads for crimping zero resistance legs on your Drunker? If so I would really like to see a photo or two of what that looks like. I am quite curious to know how that worked out since I don't recall seeing any posts after you ordered the silver beads.

Thanks and happy Vaping!

Yeah, sorry, my posts are all over this forum.

I'm using the silver beads on the Drunker and the Killer 705... With great results. It's just so easy.

Drunker will likely be my next rebuild and I WILL get pics this time!!

 

[weisner]

Yeah, sorry, my posts are all over this forum.

I'm using the silver beads on the Drunker and the Killer 705... With great results. It's just so easy.

Drunker will likely be my next rebuild and I WILL get pics this time!!

Thank you, I look forward to seeing how you avoid shorting out the Drunker and hope to learn from you.

 

[JD1]

.... Pulling the pin out a hair seemed to do the trick....

Also, the bottom center is adjustable with a screwdriver. You might try screwing it in just a tad. It becomes a balancing act to have it low enough to make contact with your mod but not so low as to lose contact with the head. I also like to just tighten every thing firm but not super tight.

It's also possibility that you had a short that was keeping your pv from firing, and you cleared it when pulling out the center pin a little. I recommend not using nail clippers or scissors to trim the wire. Just rock it back and forth until it snaps flush.