AGA-T2 Trial and error... coils and wicks!

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Do we want to put the eliquid screw back in after filling?

Is there a better pyrex tank option?

If you have no trouble with wicking with the screw in then no problem. I replace the screw after filling. Occasionally I have to turn the unit upside down to wet the wick but overall this is a minor issue compared to leaking out the fill hole for me. If you wick has a small hollow down the center you should be just fine. Otherwise I would recommend TIFO = Try It and Find Out
 

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I think I will not use SS mesh for wicks in my AGA-T2 anymore... the flavor is so much better to me with a silica wick. I don't have to worry about oxidizing, shorts or anything like that. I folded in half my 1.5mm silica and fed the loop through the wick hole from the bottom of the cap. I then wrapped a 5/4 32awg coil around the now 3mm wick, hooked it up and 2.1ohms is the result. The SS mesh wick looks cool and is less "messy" looking but I feel does not perform as well as the silica, for me anyway.
 

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"Can someone help me figure out what this extra holes/post is for? An extra photo of my setup from the side. Not bad for my 4th coil ever . Tried it on a nova-head first, it must of took me a good 2 hours to get the SS wick rolled and coiled into the head. The AGA was much easier to coil with all types of wire."
~ Nocturin

The other ground screw is the filler cap, the post with a hole in it is the ground post for doing a silica or other alternate builds. Looking pretty good I must say.

Ground post for silica? Can you elaborate? Or do you mean that it's another "neg lead" that I could use instead of the one touching the base (for a horizontal coil?)?

I think I will not use SS mesh for wicks in my AGA-T2 anymore... the flavor is so much better to me with a silica wick. I don't have to worry about oxidizing, shorts or anything like that. I folded in half my 1.5mm silica and fed the loop through the wick hole from the bottom of the cap. I then wrapped a 5/4 32awg coil around the now 3mm wick, hooked it up and 2.1ohms is the result. The SS mesh wick looks cool and is less "messy" looking but I feel does not perform as well as the silica, for me anyway.

I took out the perfectly operating ribbon coil that I had pictured and tried to burn the SS wick and use another juice with it... didn't work out, could not kill the hot pos lead for anything, and half the coil wasn't even lighting up.... so I removed it an wrapped another with 30g a-1 and worked the hot-spots out. The vape is lacking, but flavor is better (I can prevent the "burnt" taste now).

I went to micheals yesterday (arts & crafts) and found some hemp cording. I wrapped a hemp (boiled for like 2 hours) nova coil.... it was pretty freaking boss, best vapor production out of all the atty's that I have (used in a mini nova). It was 6/7 wrap with 3 1mm wicks ( I think the hemp cord is 1mm) NiChr 80 32g came out to about 1.6/1.7 ohms.

I shall be trying hemp instead of SS on my aga-t+ tonight. The SS tastes weird, poor vapor production (I don't have enough SS to do a mostly "solid" wick. The one I'm using now is only around 2 wraps.
 

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Ground post for silica? Can you elaborate? Or do you mean that it's another "neg lead" that I could use instead of the one touching the base (for a horizontal coil?)?

It was intended for silica builds and yes it is a ground or (neg lead). I am sure you can use it in some alternative fashion without issue. I plan to at some point to a bamboo/hemp build and will use that post when I do in a similar fashion to the silica builds that we see on line so often.
 

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It was intended for silica builds and yes it is a ground or (neg lead). I am sure you can use it in some alternative fashion without issue. I plan to at some point to a bamboo/hemp build and will use that post when I do in a similar fashion to the silica builds that we see on line so often.

I'm building a hemp coil after it dries. I'll try using it a ground (neg lead) and report back!
 

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I am a bit on the bored side of things and sitting here with some silica and a few odd sized strips of #400 SS mesh. I decided to make this wick pictured below. I decided to roll the oxidized mesh around the silica as I have seen a few others using some kind of wicking core in their mesh wicks. Anyone interested in these? I could do this all day and I am sure they would work/wick very well. I was thinking about making these and or also offering them with pre-wrapped coils installed. Hmmm, it's an idea. Being that I only have an AGA-T2 and an IGO-L... I could only make them for the AGA. The total wick is 3mm and with a 5/4 wrap of 32awg Kanthal A-1 should be about 2ohm. lol I almost want to use it myself.


 

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I look forward to the report. Please include pictures of the build as well as the hemp product you purchased.
You can see my hemp/bamboo builds on this other thread.

Well, It didn't go too well. No shorts or hot-spots, but the "hemp cordring" I have couldn't wick properly, even though I tried using all 3 "fill ports" I was pretty proud of it until I put some juice on it. I don't know why, but I'm getting this completely odd flavor. The juice might be the culprit. I didn't take pictures while building it, kinda zoned out. I'm going to try it again tonight with some of the NiCr 80 32g wire that I have, and a different bottle of juice and see if it goes better. Uploading photos of the result.

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The reason I say the juice might be the culprit is because I can't tell if the hemp flavor has gone away, and I have two 50ml bottles of DK Tobacco, so it's what I use for testing. One of the bottles tastes funky (pretty sure - haven't been bothered to find the right tasting one because I don't have any drip attys).

It gave vapor like a champ after it heat-up a little bit. I used my Kanthal A-1 .5mm x .1mm ribbon wire. I'm starting to have a love/hate relationship with it. The first coil I ever built was fantastic, but for every coil following it (like this one) I have hated the taste/vapor production.

Le Saddness.
 
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Well, It didn't go too well. No shorts or hot-spots, but the "hemp cordring" I have couldn't wick properly, even though I tried using all 3 "fill ports" I was pretty proud of it until I put some juice on it. I don't know why, but I'm getting this completely odd flavor. The juice might be the culprit. I didn't take pictures while building it, kinda zoned out. I'm going to try it again tonight with some of the NiCr 80 32g wire that I have, and a different bottle of juice and see if it goes better. Uploading photos of the result.

It gave vapor like a champ after it heat-up a little bit. I used my Kanthal A-1 .5mm x .1mm ribbon wire. I'm starting to have a love/hate relationship with it. The first coil I ever built was fantastic, but for every coil following it (like this one) I have hated the taste/vapor production.
~Le Saddness.

I have to ask did you boil out the hemp prior to usingit. I usually boil it for 20 minutes rinse and boil in a fresh pot of water for another 20 minutes then let it dry. This gets the manufacturing oil and waxes out of it as well as any oils picked up from transport and handling. Human hand oil tastes wrong. Lastly boiling it out increases it's capillary capacity(improves wicking).

Using all three air ports on the top of the AGA might also be an issue to draw fluid out something must be able to get in to the tank. It is possible that your wicks are swelling and blocking any air from getting in. This would make for a burnt wick/dry vape scenario.

Last, when using natural fiber you have to be patient and let the wicks get completely saturated before firing up your rig or you will surely burn the wick.

Hope this is helpful.
 

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My AGA-T2 is working really well right now (400ss 32awg 1.5 Ohms) not one ProVari error message and the vapor is good and the taste is excellent. I received the 500ss and 30awg, but I don't want to screw it up. Should I just leave it alone and enjoy?

I would leave it alone for now and enjoy it. However you can begin making your next wick any time. I might suggest that if you are really enjoying it get another so you can swap and build or keep one loaded up and ready to go. Just my two cents.
 

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I would leave it alone for now and enjoy it. However you can begin making your next wick any time. I might suggest that if you are really enjoying it get another so you can swap and build or keep one loaded up and ready to go. Just my two cents.

Interesting, another AGA-T2



Someone else suggested I leave it alone and enjoy.
 

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My AGA-T2 is working really well right now (400ss 32awg 1.5 Ohms) not one ProVari error message and the vapor is good and the taste is excellent. I received the 500ss and 30awg, but I don't want to screw it up. Should I just leave it alone and enjoy?

Yes I would they always fail at some point and I try to relish the times when the coil is working great. There is no better set up than the one that works:)
 

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My AGA-T2 is working really well right now (400ss 32awg 1.5 Ohms) not one ProVari error message and the vapor is good and the taste is excellent. I received the 500ss and 30awg, but I don't want to screw it up. Should I just leave it alone and enjoy?

Also remember that the 500 mesh will have better wicking but provide a stronger TH and a little less flavor.
 

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I have to ask did you boil out the hemp prior to usingit. I usually boil it for 20 minutes rinse and boil in a fresh pot of water for another 20 minutes then let it dry. This gets the manufacturing oil and waxes out of it as well as any oils picked up from transport and handling. Human hand oil tastes wrong. Lastly boiling it out increases it's capillary capacity(improves wicking).

Using all three air ports on the top of the AGA might also be an issue to draw fluid out something must be able to get in to the tank. It is possible that your wicks are swelling and blocking any air from getting in. This would make for a burnt wick/dry vape scenario.

Last, when using natural fiber you have to be patient and let the wicks get completely saturated before firing up your rig or you will surely burn the wick.

Hope this is helpful.

I boiled 2x 1hr-ish :).

The same cord in my nova head works great (boiled the same)! I had to go the "genny tilt" with the working SS I had in there, then again the pictured help coil I used almost a yard of cord.... there was enough airspace for switching.

I think it was because I used too much of the ribbon wire (had problems with it on the 2nd SS coil/wick too). I don't have anything to regulate, so it get's 12-14w right off the bat when it can't handle it. It's prolly my finger oils that killed it for me. I drenched the entire wick in the suspect juice before firing. It could've gone bad :(.

I'm going to try the same setup but with NiCr80 wire tonight and report back after i give the tank a good wash.

I even tried a hybrid SS/cotton wick, but I'm pretty sure the cotton swelled too much and prevented the capillary action.

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Just got home and took the tank apart, the juice went sour. Darnit. Whelp, that helps me out tremendously. My triple wick was actually working!

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after some more experimentation, the problem seems to stem from the hemp. There's a residual flavor that I don't notice with my favorite juice so far, Blackberry cheesecake. With the lighter flavored DK tobacco it overpowers it. The larger amount of hemp makes sense as to why the residual taste was so strong. This hemp cording is a no-go for the AGA. It's fine in smaller quantities and stronger juices, but i'm going to give it another bath or two. It wicks very well in the nova head @ 1.6 Ω.

I came to these deductions because I put the original, well performing SS wick and kanthal ribbon. Went through about a half-tank because I missed the flavor. Whelp. Got about 6 nova heads to rebuild, I'm not touching this coil till I need to understand more about the wick's properties. ALL THE EXPERIMENTER!
 
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I boiled 2x 1hr-ish :).

The same cord in my nova head works great (boiled the same)! I had to go the "genny tilt" with the working SS I had in there, then again the pictured help coil I used almost a yard of cord.... there was enough airspace for switching. ALL THE EXPERIMENTER!

Thanks for the update, good to know I am not the only one tinkering and finding interesting ways to muck things up as I learn.
 

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My AGA-T2 is working flawlessly with the doubled over 1.5mm silica wick and 32awg Kanthal... still at 2.1ohm at 8.5w and vaping like a champ!!! NO wicking issues at all, great flavor and great vapor production. I am getting better TH than I did with the mesh wick as well.

In the photo I see little hairs of silica hanging off where you bent the wick over above the coil. That stuff freaks me out. I know I smoked for 20+ years on Camels and Marlboros but now I see that and wonder if it is dangerous. I worked in construction for years and know that fiber glass insulation is highly dangerous to breath little bits of. I am concerned that this silica has similar properties and have not found any evidence to show that my concern is un-warranted.

Do you have any insight on this?
 
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