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I mix mine at one drop per ml but I really don't need it. For someone that does I think Anna's amount is about right. That is about how I will mix it for my hubby when/if he is willing to try again. I will be mixing it 1/4th unflavored wta to 3/4 regular e-liguid and see how that goes.
I was a heavy smoker when I switched and from all the forums I had been reading I knew I would need a stronger nic base so I vaped at 35 mg for a while then slowly brought it down. I do know that nicotine can get harsh on back of throat ....maybe add some VG to it. Nicotine also gets a bitter taste as it ages ...kinda peppery to me. Now I vape around 18 mg not really sure as I eye ball it when making my own e liquid. Flavors help if it is harsh then use a more cream based e liquid.
Equipment now just makes it so much easier to stay off the cigarettes.
So I just placed an order with UmbaVapes I figured for $9.99 for a 30ml bottle I could just figure it out. BUT man their shipping charges are OUTRAGEOUS. $8.99 to ship a little 30ml bottle? There is no way it costs that much to ship. That has to be them padding their price. MtBakerVapor used to charge like $4-$5 to ship two 236ml bottles.
I hope I can say something that will help rbrooky. When I first started vaping in November 2012, I loved vaping, but I still craved a regular cigarette. I'd enjoy a nice vaping session and then cap it off with a cig. After dinner was when I enjoyed a cigarette the most.
I found forums very encouraging, and obviously you are reading and posting to find support. One of the things I read back in 2012 was that your body handles nicotine from vaping differently than it handles nicotine from smoking. Until your body trusts that it's getting its nic, your body will still want its nic the old trusted way. The stinkies deliver tobacco with additives that enhance or deepen the experience of satiation.
If you read a lot, you'll see that some people find it harder than others to achieve full smoking cessation, even while fully enjoying their new obsession with vaping. It makes sense that it's harder for some than for others, even with the best smoking cessation device ever known, because we're all different.
I think the best advice has already been given here. Be comfortable with dual use, never giving up. Whenever you can consciously make the decision to vape instead of smoke, make that decision. You are in control. You can change your mind if you need to. Back in November 2012, with dual use, I smoked less and less. I simply started to want cigarettes less and less. I wanted to vape all my new flavors, learn how to pack and travel with my vape gear, etc. I kept reading the forums. I made small conscious decisions along the way, whether to vape or smoke, always knowing I was boss, and could change my mind if I needed to. I needed cigarettes less and less. My body did adjust to the new form of nicotine delivery, to the point that the day came, the Saturday morning after Thanksgiving 2012, when I knew I was having my last cigarette. That doesn't mean it was any easier that day. I still had to get through a day of cigarette detox, or withdrawal, with the angel on one shoulder saying "you can do it", and the demon on the other shoulder saying "you want a cigarette, and you can have a cigarette". I persevered through a long, hard day, vaping my brains out, but when I went to bed, I knew I was a nonsmoker. From that day to this, five years later, I've not had another cigarette, nor a really fierce craving. The first few months, when someone walked by with a lit cigarette, the smell was inviting, and made me feel emotionally a little regretful, but I was not beset with shrieking demon tobacco cravings. Now I never crave cigarettes at all.
Happy new year, and good cheer, good luck, courage and success.
I found forums very encouraging, and obviously you are reading and posting to find support. One of the things I read back in 2012 was that your body handles nicotine from vaping differently than it handles nicotine from smoking. Until your body trusts that it's getting its nic, your body will still want its nic the old trusted way. The stinkies deliver tobacco with additives that enhance or deepen the experience of satiation.
If you read a lot, you'll see that some people find it harder than others to achieve full smoking cessation, even while fully enjoying their new obsession with vaping. It makes sense that it's harder for some than for others, even with the best smoking cessation device ever known, because we're all different.
I think the best advice has already been given here. Be comfortable with dual use, never giving up. Whenever you can consciously make the decision to vape instead of smoke, make that decision. You are in control. You can change your mind if you need to. Back in November 2012, with dual use, I smoked less and less. I simply started to want cigarettes less and less. I wanted to vape all my new flavors, learn how to pack and travel with my vape gear, etc. I kept reading the forums. I made small conscious decisions along the way, whether to vape or smoke, always knowing I was boss, and could change my mind if I needed to. I needed cigarettes less and less. My body did adjust to the new form of nicotine delivery, to the point that the day came, the Saturday morning after Thanksgiving 2012, when I knew I was having my last cigarette. That doesn't mean it was any easier that day. I still had to get through a day of cigarette detox, or withdrawal, with the angel on one shoulder saying "you can do it", and the demon on the other shoulder saying "you want a cigarette, and you can have a cigarette". I persevered through a long, hard day, vaping my brains out, but when I went to bed, I knew I was a nonsmoker. From that day to this, five years later, I've not had another cigarette, nor a really fierce craving. The first few months, when someone walked by with a lit cigarette, the smell was inviting, and made me feel emotionally a little regretful, but I was not beset with shrieking demon tobacco cravings. Now I never crave cigarettes at all.
Happy new year, and good cheer, good luck, courage and success.
@Bliss Doubt That was a very good read indeed. I'm copying and pasting it to my son as a motivational...!
Yeah its all about the head in the end. I stopped smoking sooo many times, only to start up again (sometimes months later) out of boringness. I used so many different cessation helps and techniques, but the times when i had my head tuned in, was the easiest...
The last time was a year ago now. That's when i stumbled apon the right vaping method (tried another earlier) for me. It also coincided with a mind that was set on NOT going back to the stinkies this time round. Something clicked in there and my mind became my friend and ally against smoking. I suffered through the vape process for many reasons, but i persevered because i had to....the mind was properly set and made up !!!
Now i just love vaping and dont hate smoking. I actually enjoy the smell of smoke, but its just NOT for me anymore.
I now feel as balanced (between the two) as a Achilles RDA loaded with any HHV liquid...
Nothing can get better than that man !!!
Yeah its all about the head in the end. I stopped smoking sooo many times, only to start up again (sometimes months later) out of boringness. I used so many different cessation helps and techniques, but the times when i had my head tuned in, was the easiest...
The last time was a year ago now. That's when i stumbled apon the right vaping method (tried another earlier) for me. It also coincided with a mind that was set on NOT going back to the stinkies this time round. Something clicked in there and my mind became my friend and ally against smoking. I suffered through the vape process for many reasons, but i persevered because i had to....the mind was properly set and made up !!!
Now i just love vaping and dont hate smoking. I actually enjoy the smell of smoke, but its just NOT for me anymore.
I now feel as balanced (between the two) as a Achilles RDA loaded with any HHV liquid...
Nothing can get better than that man !!!
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Congratulations on your one year, and I wish your son the freedom of nonsmoking too.@Bliss Doubt That was a very good read indeed. I'm copying and pasting it to my son as a motivational...!
Yeah its all about the head in the end. I stopped smoking sooo many times, only to start up again (sometimes months later) out of boringness. I used so many different cessation helps and techniques, but the times when i had my head tuned in, was the easiest...
The last time was a year ago now. That's when i stumbled apon the right vaping method (tried another earlier) for me. It also coincided with a mind that was set on NOT going back to the stinkies this time round. Something clicked in there and my mind became my friend and ally against smoking. I suffered through the vape process for many reasons, but i persevered because i had to....the mind was properly set and made up !!!
Now i just love vaping and dont hate smoking. I actually enjoy the smell of smoke, but its just NOT for me anymore.
I now feel as balanced (between the two) as a Achilles RDA loaded with any HHV liquid...
While apparently minor difference between 12 and 18 mg/ml, in practice it is very substantial. On a nautilus, 12 mg doesn't allow to buildup a nicotine level in the bloodstream - which can be controlled with a given number of vaping sessions, while the 18 mg easily allows it.
In simpler words, with the body accustomed to a given amount of nic from tobacco, never reaches the same amount and you keep chuffing helplessly. 18 mg should solve your problem. A two minutes session with 18 mg will keep all your cravings away, including post-prandial ones, which are hormone-induced.
In simpler words, with the body accustomed to a given amount of nic from tobacco, never reaches the same amount and you keep chuffing helplessly. 18 mg should solve your problem. A two minutes session with 18 mg will keep all your cravings away, including post-prandial ones, which are hormone-induced.
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