I see, guess that doesn't make things any easier for me. And having looked at other ego v picture on Google mine doesn't have any logos or anything on it so im thinking it's a cheapo one even though the box it came in showed otherwise. But oh well. I got so fed up with it yesterday that I went out and bought myself a vision spinner. So now that I have that I'll be able to take apart my ego v without worrying about not having a spare battery. Whenever I get a chance to do that I'll post what I find.