The LED is located right above the juice bottle, so the bottle glows the color of the LED when the button is pressed. The LED only goes off when the atomizer/cartomizer/whatever is being fired. Looks really nice.
Introducing Sgt VV (Army Tank) - Variable Volt Bottom Feeder
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Yes the LED is nice, I got green, sort of adds to the ambiance of Boba'a Bounty 
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Yes the LED is nice, I got green, sort of adds to the ambiance of Boba'a Bounty
I got green too with a green drip shield. Looks slick.
Well I don't know about this yet. It has nothing to do with the Tank itself, I think it is my technique. I have been trying it with an atty I have and I can't seem to get it to work worth the damn. lol If I have the atty securely tightened it is too hard to draw through, so if I back it off a hair I can draw through it fine, but very weak TH and flavor no matter what the voltage. If I put on a carto as long as I have it already filled it works great, if I try to feed it, the juice enters the tube and all I get is a mouthful of juice (not the way I want to taste it).
So my question is, what is your preferred atty? The ones I have came with my Riva 510 kit. Also how do you properly go about feeding the atty. I either get too little or too much juice in there, and I have to make sure that I don't have it too snug other wise I have a hard draw, too lose I get juice coming out.
I love my cartos but that sort of defeats the purpose of a bottom feeder doesn't it? I haven't given up yet, just need to work on using a bottom feeder. Until then I think I will take a few hits off my Riva and then hit the hay.
So my question is, what is your preferred atty? The ones I have came with my Riva 510 kit. Also how do you properly go about feeding the atty. I either get too little or too much juice in there, and I have to make sure that I don't have it too snug other wise I have a hard draw, too lose I get juice coming out.
I love my cartos but that sort of defeats the purpose of a bottom feeder doesn't it? I haven't given up yet, just need to work on using a bottom feeder. Until then I think I will take a few hits off my Riva and then hit the hay.
It takes awhile to get use to feeding the atty or carto. I always invert the unit when I feed a carto and slowly push in the bottle for a few seconds to let the juice run down inside of the carto. Not so with attys. Use it upright to feed. It just takes some getting use to how much to push squonk the bottle. If your juice is all pv it isnt going to take much to flood it. If you are using a mix of say 70/30 or 50/50 then it is much easier to feed or get use to how much to feed the atty. Try another atty if you arent having luck with the one you have and if it is flooded try taking it off and blowing it out and start over. if you are flooding it you wont get th or vapor.. try this im sure it will help you.. good luck door!
i actually love boge cartos with the tank, doorknob. my method is filling a fresh carto with juice, screwing it on the tank, and every 6-7 hits i gentle squeeze the bottle while sucking on the carto (without firing the button) till i hear a slight gurgle. bottle squeeze is about 1 second. same goes for atties except i might have to squeeze every 2-3 hits. a light touch and a quick inhale on the atty/carto is the key to bottom feeding from my experience. i like cartos because the juice cup mostly stays dry and theres less squeezing. slight learning curve, but once you get it, its the most convenient way to vape. i hope you find your way door....or knob....
Feeding method for attys: squeez bottle till you see a ring of juice around bottom of Atty in the drip well. Not enough to overflow but as close as you can. Then suck to fill the attywithout pushing the fire button. You should hear a little gurgling sound. The vape away!
Some Atty types will hold juice better then others without leaking. I used to use Cisco and I Ken 510s and 306s but I got tired of them having a short life span and real random quality. At 8 bucks a pop they better last at least a month. Such was not the case here the last few months and I ordered a batch from vaporkings. They are joye and currently are the cheepest attys on the market. I have been very impressed so far.
1.5 ohm aka low resistance are tricky to feed right. They have very low number of wraps in the heating coil and will burn juice very easy or nothing at all. Once you get some skill under your belt they are fine, but the 2.5 ohm aka standard resistance are easier. That extra wrap on the coil gives you more roo. For error when it comes to feeding or voltage. 2.5 ohm are great for a vv mod like this because you have plenty of room to adjust up or down.
Cartos have always been tricky to botomfeed. When you suck some juice into them, you have to let them sit for a sec or so to allow the juice to absorb into the polyfill before you take a drag. I use carto tanks these days instead of just a carto by itself. On the army tank, I don't try to bottomfed the carto tank, I just keep the bottle full as a backup to take out and refill the cartotank with. The liquinators I use hold 3 ml and add the 3 ml bottle in the army tank and I can vape all day and carry no extra bottles.
The draw is tighter a lot of the mods I have vs an ego or riva. Not a big deal to me because when I started vaping I vaped straight into my lungs. This caused a lot of soar throats. Since I learned to vape into my mouth, then inhale to my lungs, the tighter draw is not an issue and I have not had a soar throat since. I want vapor to hit my tongue first, not my throat.
I know this isn't the right place but I figured I'd post here for anyone that has been interested in buying one Of these.
I have an unopend, unused tank mod with led voltage meter and would be willing to sell it for what I paid $97 (that includes shipping). This is not the newer one that he is now selling.
I would then buy the new one which
Is more expensive by about $20.
I have an unopend, unused tank mod with led voltage meter and would be willing to sell it for what I paid $97 (that includes shipping). This is not the newer one that he is now selling.
I would then buy the new one which
Is more expensive by about $20.
So far I think I like using the Boge cartos with my tank the best. As for the attys I feel that the ones that came with my Riva 510 kits just aren't that good to begin with. I once again tried using one on the Riva itself and flavor, vapor and TH are pretty lame, and I get the same issues with them on the Riva that I do on the Tank.
I was reading up on the Vapage Hybrid atty, has anyone tried them? I think I am going to buy a couple as well as some other highly talked about ones and give those a try as well.
I have a nice stash of Boge 2.0 and 3.0 as well as some Resurrectors from CCV to play with in the meantime, really like all of them, and as far as I'm concerned you can't go wrong with these on any device.
Thanks for all the tips!
I was reading up on the Vapage Hybrid atty, has anyone tried them? I think I am going to buy a couple as well as some other highly talked about ones and give those a try as well.
I have a nice stash of Boge 2.0 and 3.0 as well as some Resurrectors from CCV to play with in the meantime, really like all of them, and as far as I'm concerned you can't go wrong with these on any device.
Thanks for all the tips!
Got some hybrids otw now. Seeing as how a few people melted down their reos with the first release, I decided to wait. Think the ones I ordered last night are the new revision.
Have I said lately how much I just LOVE this PV? When I fill a fresh carto, I use it on my riva or ego for the first 2 days.. when topping off doesn't work anymore I put it on the army tank and feed it from the bottom for a few more days till it just isn't worth it anymore. Then I can clean the carto and use it like an atty on the army tank. IMO cleaned cartos don't taste very good when filled from the top but they do pretty good when fed from the bottom. I feel I'm getting much more use out of my cartos this way. This thing should pay for itself in no time!
I too feel that vaporkings is the best place to buy attys.. An order of a pack of 10 should last a year! I've only tried the 510s.. thinking about trying a 901 or a 306 but I hate to place a bulk order for so many and then not like them. The 510s are 10 for $46.95 and the 901 and 306 are 10 for $36.95.. I guess I will place an order at madvapes and get one of each to try out.
I too feel that vaporkings is the best place to buy attys.. An order of a pack of 10 should last a year! I've only tried the 510s.. thinking about trying a 901 or a 306 but I hate to place a bulk order for so many and then not like them. The 510s are 10 for $46.95 and the 901 and 306 are 10 for $36.95.. I guess I will place an order at madvapes and get one of each to try out.
my favorite atty is the dse reg. 901 and i get them from VaporKings. They are 3.1 Ohm. I preferred to get them from ValuVapor because they seemed to come at 2.8 Ohm which i like better... but for the price, and having VV, the 3.1 are fine and the price is better at VKing.
I never liked bottom feeders before because of inconsistent feeding technique, but am willing to give it a try with this VV bottom feeder.
Stownz, are you saying you don't even bottom feed with it? and you use a tank mod too ?
Donna, I burn out an atty every week... that's why i buy bulk... i bought 5 x 10pak...why? even if carto's are cheaper, i prefer the vape of an atty and dripping over the carto's. taste is better imo.
The only way i imagine a carto would taste good (every time) is in a tank mod....
The DC cartos are another story though... seems like putting them in a tank is the way to go....?
I never liked bottom feeders before because of inconsistent feeding technique, but am willing to give it a try with this VV bottom feeder.
Stownz, are you saying you don't even bottom feed with it? and you use a tank mod too ?
Donna, I burn out an atty every week... that's why i buy bulk... i bought 5 x 10pak...why? even if carto's are cheaper, i prefer the vape of an atty and dripping over the carto's. taste is better imo.
The only way i imagine a carto would taste good (every time) is in a tank mod....
The DC cartos are another story though... seems like putting them in a tank is the way to go....?
I tried a couple dc's but wasn't impressed. not for the extra price. The beauty of this thing is that you can use a tank mod if you want and be able to carry around a 3ml bottle of juice in the mod itself. I don't remember if you have one of these yet but the dripping experience is great! Maybe it's just the vv but I like to change flavors. I keep a bottle of waffles in mine and drip chocolate fudge brownie and vanilla cupcake... if I get up to go somewhere (like the bathroom LOL) I can use the waffles in the bottle.. it mixes well with the chocolate and vanilla flavors.
I can keep an atty going for at least a month or more.. unless I let it get too dry and then try to vape it at too high of a voltage. I like the taste of waffles in a fresh carto but not after a couple days. The reason I use a fresh carto on my riva/ego has nothing to do with the performance of this mod.. I just like the restriction of the draw that the cone gives it. to me, it is more of a smoother draw rather than the slight airy draw of a boge carto.
To me, feeding an atty from the bottom is just a tasty as feeding it from the top. I like to fill a fresh carto from the top for a couple days and then it seems to work better when fed from the bottom.
I was thinking of getting some Boge DC cartos to try, I have read many good things about them.
Being a noob to VV, I have read confusing info on what Ohm to run at what voltage. I have read nothing lower than 3 Ohm over 5 volts. Is this correct?
My own testing using both the 2 Ohm and 3 Ohm Boges is anywhere near 5 volts it seems far to hot. I even tried a Resurector at 5V and that seemed like a bad idea being 1.7 Ohm (although my favorite carto on the Riva) lol. The 3 Ohm seems to be the best at 5v but like I said it seems too hot. So I guess the question is, is anything 5V and higher best to use an atty?
So far all my test with the Tank have been using Boba's Bounty. With it I find that 3.7-4 Volts is the best anything higher and the flavor goes bad. I did try a carto with some KY Premium Applewood at 5V and it was pretty nice, so it is immediately obvious that the juice will also determine what volt to run. So much experimenting to come. But in all I am starting to enjoy my Tank the more I learn.
Being a noob to VV, I have read confusing info on what Ohm to run at what voltage. I have read nothing lower than 3 Ohm over 5 volts. Is this correct?
My own testing using both the 2 Ohm and 3 Ohm Boges is anywhere near 5 volts it seems far to hot. I even tried a Resurector at 5V and that seemed like a bad idea being 1.7 Ohm (although my favorite carto on the Riva) lol. The 3 Ohm seems to be the best at 5v but like I said it seems too hot. So I guess the question is, is anything 5V and higher best to use an atty?
So far all my test with the Tank have been using Boba's Bounty. With it I find that 3.7-4 Volts is the best anything higher and the flavor goes bad. I did try a carto with some KY Premium Applewood at 5V and it was pretty nice, so it is immediately obvious that the juice will also determine what volt to run. So much experimenting to come. But in all I am starting to enjoy my Tank the more I learn.
I normally bottomfeed with it. But I have 3 of the liquinator tanks loaded with dual coils and different juice blends when I want to change out. I have even contemplated dumping attys all together because of inconsistencies with quality and life. The vaporkings ones are pretty cheep, and I have only killed one of them in a month. It died while sitting unused for some reason: I vaped it for a few days, then swapped to a 306 for a couple of days, then picked up that 510 and it was dead....
Remember there are other benefits to the Army tank besides it being a bottomfeeder. It is crazy small (I wear mine on a lanyard). J's old regulator AND the new switching will run 1.5 ohm dual coils over 5 volts !!!
Here are some pics:
This is J's new switching regulator firing a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto at 5.7 volts LOADED !!!! No other mod on the market right now can do that with a switching regulator. The merlin could do it, but its not being sold anymore.
Army Tank with my SS Liquinator and dual coil carto.
In short, this mod will do EVERYTHING. It is True VV: no amp cutoff. Its super small. It has a switching regulator for insane battery life now (currently testing that). Thumbwheel voltage adjust. I just put up to sell my brand new polished GLV3 mini that took 2.5 months to make because I love this little plastic ........ Also just listed my Reo Grand. I have had a LOT of mods, and this is the best of them all.
I wondered if you had finally got the GLV3! I was going to ask if you like it but I can see the answer to that question! I have a few 3.7 box mods but I'd rather keep them.. one day they'll be antiques LOL.
thanks Stownz! for the advice etc... i am on the list for the new army VV-11.
what Liquidnator do you recommend? and what DC's do you put in them?
Never tried tanks yet and I hear weird things about Ce2's i.e. "they over feed", and " better than any carto for tanks"....etc
I have a SS iatty because i hear cinamon oil will eat the plastic tube that tanks use... what juice do you use in yours?
I'm interested in tanks because they say they keep a carto wet.
what Liquidnator do you recommend? and what DC's do you put in them?
Never tried tanks yet and I hear weird things about Ce2's i.e. "they over feed", and " better than any carto for tanks"....etc
I have a SS iatty because i hear cinamon oil will eat the plastic tube that tanks use... what juice do you use in yours?
I'm interested in tanks because they say they keep a carto wet.
I normally bottomfeed with it. But I have 3 of the liquinator tanks loaded with dual coils and different juice blends when I want to change out. I have even contemplated dumping attys all together because of inconsistencies with quality and life. The vaporkings ones are pretty cheep, and I have only killed one of them in a month. It died while sitting unused for some reason: I vaped it for a few days, then swapped to a 306 for a couple of days, then picked up that 510 and it was dead....
Remember there are other benefits to the Army tank besides it being a bottomfeeder. It is crazy small (I wear mine on a lanyard). J's old regulator AND the new switching will run 1.5 ohm dual coils over 5 volts !!!
Here are some pics:
This is J's new switching regulator firing a 1.5 ohm dual coil carto at 5.7 volts LOADED !!!! No other mod on the market right now can do that with a switching regulator. The merlin could do it, but its not being sold anymore.
Army Tank with my SS Liquinator and dual coil carto.
In short, this mod will do EVERYTHING. It is True VV: no amp cutoff. Its super small. It has a switching regulator for insane battery life now (currently testing that). Thumbwheel voltage adjust. I just put up to sell my brand new polished GLV3 mini that took 2.5 months to make because I love this little plastic ........ Also just listed my Reo Grand. I have had a LOT of mods, and this is the best of them all.
Stownz and others have found that Dual Coil LR cartos are great at high volts!
Because most newer VV pv's have amp limiter they won't fire an LR so with this PV - Sgt.Army VV you CAN!
Generally any LR or 3 Ohm carto (other than the DC's) will not be good at high voltage... they burn.
so heres a guide:
LR 1.5 to 2.0 Ohms --- use 3.7v (to 4.+ v if your pv will let you.)
SR 2.3 to 3.1 Ohms... use 3.7 to 5v
HV 3.5 to 4.5 Ohms... use 4.5 to 7v
this applys to attys and cartos...
depending on the juice you use, it varies... that's the beauty of a good VV.
Because most newer VV pv's have amp limiter they won't fire an LR so with this PV - Sgt.Army VV you CAN!
Generally any LR or 3 Ohm carto (other than the DC's) will not be good at high voltage... they burn.
so heres a guide:
LR 1.5 to 2.0 Ohms --- use 3.7v (to 4.+ v if your pv will let you.)
SR 2.3 to 3.1 Ohms... use 3.7 to 5v
HV 3.5 to 4.5 Ohms... use 4.5 to 7v
this applys to attys and cartos...
depending on the juice you use, it varies... that's the beauty of a good VV.
CE2s I have dubbed "failomizers". I'll never by another product made by royalsmokers again until they refund me all the money I have spent on all 5 different revisions before I gave up. Really hate them.
As far as the liquinators, I have 2 plastic ones and one SS one: all 3ml versions. Yes, they keep a carto wet, and thats what makes them fantastic. The reason I love the dual coils is because they won't burn juice. When you slot a carto and stick it in a tank, even the non dual coils won't burn. Really surprised me how well they work, and how functional almost all brands of cartos become once you have a tank. They are very functional, but no cartomizer on the market compares to a great performing atty with either dripping or bottomfeeding.
As far as juice goes, almost all my mixes are a variation on a few different tobacco flavors. I DIY mix all my stuff, and use the money I save towards mods 8) DK tab is my favorite flavoring of choice, and I mix 2 30 ml bottles a week of it (wifey vapes it also).
My Recipe:
40/60 PG/VG 36mg nic base
8% DK tab flavoring
1 drop Tobacco Extract too 30ml
For dual coil cartos, I'll actually drop the nic level down to 16 or so. Since I vape them at around 5.2 or 5.3: they HIT LIKE A TRUCK. So even though you loose Throat Hit because of the lower nic, you get the same TH just by cranking the volts up. The dual coils I use are from that initial batch I bought from smoke tech months ago. I was so blown away after the first one I tried, I bought 200 of them. Little over halfway through my stash now. I might add that the clear ones I have tried jack up the flavor somehow imho. I prefer the steel ones.
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