INTRODUCING - The VOLT X² - ALL NEW Batteries/Passthrough

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Took me 2 days off/on to finally read this entire thread. Doing so leads me to officially confirm my auto black 1300 is not only awesome, but working correctly. I was expecting to see a light while vaping, even with the silver end cap on. So far, a full charge has lasted 24 hours. I'm hoping and thinking it will last me at least 72, since 78mm batteries lasted 24. That includes idle sleeping time. lol

Can't vape hands-free for long, though. It's just too heavy. But it is oh so good with the clearo's! No more flavor drop-off. The last hit tastes as good as the first. I want to try the battery with regular carto's, but but but.. I'll use the excuse I'm saving those for the 78mm batteries I'll vape less conspicuously in public :D

I want to see these X2's in different colors, for sure. And the lanyards to match. And maybe clearo's that last as long as the battery might, without looking like a chemist's graduated cylinder. lol sarcasm intended:)
 

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the 1300 might actually last you 4 days if the 78mm is lasting you 1 :)

Took me 2 days off/on to finally read this entire thread. Doing so leads me to officially confirm my auto black 1300 is not only awesome, but working correctly. I was expecting to see a light while vaping, even with the silver end cap on. So far, a full charge has lasted 24 hours. I'm hoping and thinking it will last me at least 72, since 78mm batteries lasted 24. That includes idle sleeping time. lol

Can't vape hands-free for long, though. It's just too heavy. But it is oh so good with the clearo's! No more flavor drop-off. The last hit tastes as good as the first. I want to try the battery with regular carto's, but but but.. I'll use the excuse I'm saving those for the 78mm batteries I'll vape less conspicuously in public :D

I want to see these X2's in different colors, for sure. And the lanyards to match. And maybe clearo's that last as long as the battery might, without looking like a chemist's graduated cylinder. lol sarcasm intended:)
 

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Yeah the 900 lasts me a full day of moderate vaping. I was surprised. There were some snarky comments from someone against my post in the newbies section saying I'm wrong, not true blah blah for my battery to last being only 900mah.. but trust me, they last! Going through 2-3ml a day on the clearo with full charge and have yet to have it die on me. So I'd imagine the 1300 going a long way before needing a charge. Love these things!
 

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the 900 lasts me all day as well which makes sense as I can go through about 2 1/4 78mm in a day...

I do not understand why some people are so rough on any NON mod in the newbie forum... to each their own... I mean really..no one is in there saying using a MOD is the wrong thing....
 

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Exactly Imagine. Seems like having a MOD is the end result of where everyone says you should be but they only complicate things. I got so into this after 2 weeks I bought a lot of items, First my volt kit, then the Apollo Vtube, and X2/Clearos when they came back in stock. Had I known, I would have just bought the X2 and skipped having a MOD. Sure it's variable voltage, can drip, tank, carto, etc on for versatility but in the end I literally use my X2 all day over everything. My Apollo is basically a drip for testing juices and occasionally filling up the 6ml DCT for a long day of something if I'm out.. Just not as pocket friendly as the X2 though. I guess you have the Provari elitists who push mods down the newbies section, then you have those who just genuinely want versatility and try to help by pushing the Mods there.

The way I see it, if it does what you want, keeps you off analogs and makes you happy.. Why do you need every PV on the market? I know people mean well, but suggesting the bigger mods in the newbies section isn't the right way to go I think.
 

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Exactly Imagine. Seems like having a MOD is the end result of where everyone says you should be but they only complicate things. I got so into this after 2 weeks I bought a lot of items, First my volt kit, then the Apollo Vtube, and X2/Clearos when they came back in stock. Had I known, I would have just bought the X2 and skipped having a MOD. Sure it's variable voltage, can drip, tank, carto, etc on for versatility but in the end I literally use my X2 all day over everything. My Apollo is basically a drip for testing juices and occasionally filling up the 6ml DCT for a long day of something if I'm out.. Just not as pocket friendly as the X2 though. I guess you have the Provari elitists who push mods down the newbies section, then you have those who just genuinely want versatility and try to help by pushing the Mods there.

The way I see it, if it does what you want, keeps you off analogs and makes you happy.. Why do you need every PV on the market? I know people mean well, but suggesting the bigger mods in the newbies section isn't the right way to go I think.

My second PV was the "newest, greatest" mod. It was so finicky and fairly fragile that I spent more time trying to get a good vape than actually vaping. I can put couple Volts in my pocket with a full charge and a full carto or clearos, and they work when I want them to. I have some more basic mods at home for those rare occasions when I can sit for a few minutes and enjoy them but I would never use them as my all day unit. What someone uses should be based on their needs, not the hottest new trend. Whatever WORKS is usually the best solution.
 

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Yeah the 900 lasts me a full day of moderate vaping. I was surprised. There were some snarky comments from someone against my post in the newbies section saying I'm wrong, not true blah blah for my battery to last being only 900mah.. but trust me, they last! Going through 2-3ml a day on the clearo with full charge and have yet to have it die on me. So I'd imagine the 1300 going a long way before needing a charge. Love these things!

Ahh, you ran into the self appointed master ultimate authority of vaping and grand representative of all modders and long time vapers I see. Listen to him carefully because he is the only one who knows what a newcommer needs for total satisfaction in his or her vaping experience. Anyone with a different experience, view, or opinion is automatically wrong and should not dispute his infinate wisdom and authority. After all, just his post count and join date should tell you he obviously knows much more than you and all about every device on the market. He knows that all cig like batteries only last an hour of light to moderate vaping regardless of mah, voltage, amps, watts, type of liquid and vaping habits of the individual, and are incapable of producing decent vapor no matter how many satisfied users say differently. So many people don't realize they aren't enjoying their PV and need to be told.

Unfortunatley you can sleep in a garage for 20 years....but it doesn't make you a VolksWagon.

Imagine; the 900 lasts me all day as well which makes sense as I can go through about 2 1/4 78mm in a day...

I do not understand why some people are so rough on any NON mod in the newbie forum... to each their own... I mean really..no one is in there saying using a MOD is the wrong thing....[/

Unfortunatley there probably should be. Not everyone has the knowledge or skill level to use non proprietary batteries or APVs safely or to tell one kind from another. We've had a couple of people come here after buying mods that sold them to switch to something usable for them. One young lady was totally overwhelmed. Fortunatly she was able to return the mod and buy 808s. She's still vaping 78 autos and enjoying them. Mods are not for everyone and neither are big batteries nor are cig like. Every device has it's person and that's why they're called "Personal Vaporizers". There is no one size that fits all. Anyone really trying to help in the newcommers section would do well to find out what the needs of that indivdual are and give advice on how to meet them rather than promote their own agenda or devices.

Rant over. Stepping down off the soapbox.
 

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Part of the problem seems to be that the technology changes so fast in this biz. What represented 'the best thingy' (I love that word now) to start off with last month may have been replaced with something better this month. Many people don't keep on top of all that when giving advice to noobs seeking advice on their first purchase. Instead most appear to recommend what worked well for them personally; which may have been last month or a year ago. Don't even get me started on the variable volt mod recommendations as a first purchase. I've already been too vocal on that in other threads. Yes, I own a vv mod and still don't recommend them as a 1st purchase. Most people have enough to worry about in the first few days. They need uncomplicated, reliable and effective to start with then they can evolve from there...if they even want to that is.
 

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Reminds me of when I put together comps, some folks get their identities tied up with their gadgets.
Unfortunate when they throw newbies into "Lamborginis" when they just need simple A to B transportation.:rolleyes:
I like the straight forward Volt devices....maybe someday I'll experiment, and,.. maybe someday I'll get a Darwin:drool:
 

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Exactly on the changing technology. When I started it was attys with those da#@ carts, not cartos. Ego t was just starting to catch on. There were countless sections on this forum about modding those stinkin carts and no matter what you did you were still doomed to a burnt taste. Chain vaping wasn't much of an option and nobody even hinted there were 808s. Up until recently even SI was limited to two battery sizes and regular cartos, which I still think are great and use. The biggest thing everybody was waiting on was colored tips and batteries and a giant pcc. Now we've got clearos and all manner of things both on the site and on the horizon.
 

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Yeah the 900 lasts me a full day of moderate vaping. I was surprised. There were some snarky comments from someone against my post in the newbies section saying I'm wrong, not true blah blah for my battery to last being only 900mah.. but trust me, they last! Going through 2-3ml a day on the clearo with full charge and have yet to have it die on me. So I'd imagine the 1300 going a long way before needing a charge. Love these things!

Never pay attention to snarky comments. Some people don't raise up their children right. :facepalm:
 

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I basically agree with what everyone here is saying. Although it complicates things for noobies, I'm glad that there are so many different options available for everyone. There is no single nicotine-delivery-system that can fill everyone's needs. Each individual places different priorities into what they want their device(s) to do.

To some, especially beginners, it will probably need to look and feel like an analog, despite the reality that those devices have limitations of battery time, requiring packing extra batteries around and a PCC. But they are simple to use and can be a great first step to getting a newbie off the death sticks. And that my friends is the bottom line. Many will be mostly satisfied with this setup for months or years.

Many others will eventually feel the need to expand to bigger (and better?) things. Some will want much longer battery time that can last them 1 to 3 days without needing to change a battery. Some will want larger juice carriers (tanks) without needing to pack multiple cartos/clearos or juice bottles with them. Some will want the option of variable voltage. Some will get so into vaping that we could easily call them hobbiests or collectors of "tools of the trade".

I can see both sides of the argument. From what I have learned in the few weeks that I have been vaping is there is a general progression from one type of setup to the other setups in this fine art/science of vaping. Some of the vets believe that what they have finally settled on from their experience will be the best for everyone, saving the newbies a lot of time, money, and trouble if they will just allow them to show them the way. But what worked for them may not neccessarily work for others. Part of the whole experience is exploring what is out there,seeking info from many sources by reading and watching what resources are out there, and making an educated decision on what is likely to work for them as an individual. But everyone has to get their feet wet before they can swim.

Bottom line is for each individual to make the choice to stop smoking. How they do it is up to them. :vapor:
 

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The way I see it, if it does what you want, keeps you off analogs and makes you happy.. Why do you need every PV on the market? I know people mean well, but suggesting the bigger mods in the newbies section isn't the right way to go I think.

AMEN to that.

Honestly if you'd handed me blank cartos and a bottle of juice my first day vaping, I would have lit a cig thinking that it was way to fiddly to have to be topping off cartos and carrying juice with me. I had to get myself into it with the prefills. I carried a few cartos and 2 charged batteries, changed out a battery, tossed the empty, screwed on a new one... and it took me time to accept that as not fiddly.

I started refilling my cartos when I got tired of the same 2 flavors (SI Cappuccino and Vanilla). I bought a few flavors, and would refill my empties with KBV Candy Bar (in the empty cappuccinos) and Sweet Tea (in the empty vanillas). I ordered some blank cartos with my next order to try even more flavors. So, filling cartos got to be acceptable. I still didn't want to look at anything bigger than my 78mm batteries though.

When I stopped smoking cigarettes altogether and was topping off cartos more and more often, I decided maybe I should look into something that would last longer. I lucked out and the X2s with clearos came along right at that time. So now I'm using that, and would definitely recommend it.... BUT, I know some newbies personally that aren't ready.

A guy at work looked at my X2 and baggie of bottles and said no way, but liked my 78mm that I lent him for a day with a prefilled. He ordered his own kit and has been on that for a few weeks. Now he's asking about the X2 for all day use, but he's attached to SI Grape flavor. I told him no problem, order a bottle, an X2 and a couple clearos, pop off the top, drip the juice in, and you're good to go for all day long. If I'd have said "no, no, no, you don't want to start with batteries you have to keep charged up and swap, it's big battery or you might as well just skip it", he never would have tried.

I found the same thing with my best friend. We both have 78mm batteries from last year (we vaped for a few months and then ended up back on analogs during a high stress time). She's back to using those part time, and had them on a recent trip we took for the nonsmoking hotel room use. She's OK with those and had no interest in my X2 until she realized that all I have to do is top off juice and not worry about my battery time until the end of the day. It took weighing that benefit to get over the "but it doesn't feel like a cigarette" factor. Some people just don't want to accept the bigger form factor right away.

I think there's a natural progression that happens as a person gets into vaping and accepts vaping as a way of life. Some people tend to forget that most of us start as SMOKERS. We have an analog that weighs practically nothing... we light the end, smoke it, and toss it. We don't pop off the filter, soak it in liquid, wait for it to absorb etc.... worry about charging up our lighters. When our pack or lighter is dead, we're hardly ever more than a mile or two from a brand new supply. Coming from that mentality a couple small batteries and some prefilleds in a "pack" (I used a little Golla bag made for an Ipod), was a perfect start for me.

Even though I had gone back to smoking for a while there, I had 3 months of vaping experience. When I came back to it this time, my mentality had changed. I was taking up the hobby/habit or vaping, not just replacing my smokes, so I was ready to accept a different process, different look and feel with new equipment etc. That's a completely different mindset than most come into vaping with.

When a newbie says "I'm smoking and I want a replacement", then I think it makes sense to suggest something that mimics that habit as closely as possible until they say "OK, I've accepted this vaping thing, and I'm looking for a step up".
 

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