I'll certainly look up your posts, Sun. Personally, I haven't noticed any problems, and my cotton just looks damp when I'm done. But in any event, I'll search the forum and see what I can find.
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I'll certainly look up your posts, Sun. Personally, I haven't noticed any problems, and my cotton just looks damp when I'm done. But in any event, I'll search the forum and see what I can find.
I'm thinking Sun was right, I just took the cotton out of the Iolite chamber and here's a picture.
Tried a search for this Sun but couldn't find it. I'll take you at your word. Thanks. Back to the drawing board. Sigh.
I just don't know. I mean, if Sun is right and the cotton is actually burning, then the same can be said of the herbal molasses . . . and both are plant materials.
I guess I'd like to see some more information about this. I'm not convinced that what you're seeing is burnt cotton . . . I think you're seeing the residue from the vaporized liquid. I could be wrong, though . . . wouldn't be the first time.
I just don't know. I mean, if Sun is right and the cotton is actually burning, then the same can be said of the herbal molasses . . . and both are plant materials.
I guess I'd like to see some more information about this. I'm not convinced that what you're seeing is burnt cotton . . . I think you're seeing the residue from the vaporized liquid. I could be wrong, though . . . wouldn't be the first time.
Julie if you have any ideas I certainly wouldn't mind being the test subject ha
a few people have offered to send me dead attys so as soon as i get them all in i'll try what sun recommended.
Cotton wool does not burn at 190 degrees. It is used as flask wadding in labs when claved. At 255 degrees it burns giving off hydrogen and oxygen, leaving a deposit of carbon. This is for organic pure cotton wool, stay away from other kinds.
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Oops probably shouldn't have used one of those little cotton balls, don't think the stuff is pure at all.
Great job on the vids Crash, I like the style and they feel friendly and informal which is nice.
I'll comment on the first set of vids first
Dropping eliquid right into the vapour chamber will cause it to boil up right away and the flavour will dissapear in moments. The Iolite just isnt suitable for that. An ecig vaporizes e-liquid a bit at a time rather than doing it all in one hit the way the Iolite wil do it.
Also, 24mg e-liquid is way too much for the Iolite unless you use the J-Adapter or a hose to cool the vapour before it reaches your mouth. The intensity and heat will overpower you and thats why you are coughing.
Now on to the alternative...
The cotton method works fairly well. I would recommend cutting e-liquid down to at least a quarter strength with PG or VG and using about 6 drops on the cotton. Ensure the liquid is only in the cotton, and not touching the aluminium chamber.
I prefer the gauze method. In older models with the removable heating pin, you can push the upper screen out of the herb chamber, invert it and install a few gauzes inside. This will act like the material in an atomizer, holding the liquid and vaporizing it in a slower, more gradual way. There is only room to do this when the heating pin is removed.
With newer models with the fixed pin and circlip fixed herb chamber screen, take half a dozen gauzes and punch holes in their centres. Slide these over the heating pin in a stack and drip the liquid onto them. Again they hold the eliquid and allow for a slower release of vapour.
To add eliquid to herbal molasses, I find it better to mix up a batch of molasses and eliquid so it is nicely blended rather than dropping it on top of the material. As the molasses works more slowly, mixing the eliquid in also makes it release the nicotine more slowly.
I have stopped using the foil crucible method, I just removed the lower screen to aid cleaning and put the molasses directly into the chamber. It is easy to clean up with a damp interdental brush or q-tip and I find it less hastle than making up the crusibles. Just my preference. I then do a weekly deep clean with Dr Green.
I would strongly recommend vaping on it through a short hose or getting the J-Adapter if you are finding the vape too hot.
Andy
I'll comment on the first set of vids first
Dropping eliquid right into the vapour chamber will cause it to boil up right away and the flavour will dissapear in moments. The Iolite just isnt suitable for that. An ecig vaporizes e-liquid a bit at a time rather than doing it all in one hit the way the Iolite wil do it.
Also, 24mg e-liquid is way too much for the Iolite unless you use the J-Adapter or a hose to cool the vapour before it reaches your mouth. The intensity and heat will overpower you and thats why you are coughing.
Now on to the alternative...
The cotton method works fairly well. I would recommend cutting e-liquid down to at least a quarter strength with PG or VG and using about 6 drops on the cotton. Ensure the liquid is only in the cotton, and not touching the aluminium chamber.
I prefer the gauze method. In older models with the removable heating pin, you can push the upper screen out of the herb chamber, invert it and install a few gauzes inside. This will act like the material in an atomizer, holding the liquid and vaporizing it in a slower, more gradual way. There is only room to do this when the heating pin is removed.
With newer models with the fixed pin and circlip fixed herb chamber screen, take half a dozen gauzes and punch holes in their centres. Slide these over the heating pin in a stack and drip the liquid onto them. Again they hold the eliquid and allow for a slower release of vapour.
To add eliquid to herbal molasses, I find it better to mix up a batch of molasses and eliquid so it is nicely blended rather than dropping it on top of the material. As the molasses works more slowly, mixing the eliquid in also makes it release the nicotine more slowly.
I have stopped using the foil crucible method, I just removed the lower screen to aid cleaning and put the molasses directly into the chamber. It is easy to clean up with a damp interdental brush or q-tip and I find it less hastle than making up the crusibles. Just my preference. I then do a weekly deep clean with Dr Green.
I would strongly recommend vaping on it through a short hose or getting the J-Adapter if you are finding the vape too hot.
Andy
Hey Frog I've got loads of screens here and I've got the older version so I'm able to take he pin out. I'll give the gauze method a go. Also I was thinking about maybe using a small hooka pipe with it?? I saw you had pics up of that J-adapter somewhere (different forum maybe) I tried to find something similar but had no luck, also I recall you saying you had to modify it. So any advice on where I can get that?? Wouldn't mine giving it a go, though personally I'm enjoying the warm vapor.
Hey Crash. A hookah pipe would work just fine I would think. Theres lost of stuff over on the FC forum about using hoses.
To fit a J-Adapter, all you need to do is grind down one of the nylon end caps so that it fits snugly in the base of the adapter. You dont need to take much off, I used a rotary tool to take a little off the diameter. I have PM'd you a place with the item in stock
To fit a J-Adapter, all you need to do is grind down one of the nylon end caps so that it fits snugly in the base of the adapter. You dont need to take much off, I used a rotary tool to take a little off the diameter. I have PM'd you a place with the item in stock
I tried using a couple of screen in the iolite as frog recommend and well here are the results.
YouTube - Iolite 1 screens
YouTube - Iolite 2 screens
YouTube - Iolite 1 screens
YouTube - Iolite 2 screens
Thanks Crash! I am seeing what I think Julie said with regard to using no more than I think it was 3mg. of e-liquid. It seems once you added more liquid it worked somewhat better, so maybe there's hope for this thing and e-liquid.
Yea Sharon anything over 3mg in this so far has been pretty unbearable, and i'm use to smoking high mg eliquds so to anyone that said you cant get a throat hit from 3mg of nic they need to try the iolite. But as far as regular use goes i'm really loving the molasses in it, I've got 6 different flavors here and I paid 20 euros for 180 grams that will go bad before i get to finish it vs paying around 20 euro for 30 ml of e liquid if bought from many uk suppliers.
Do you get more vapor with the molasses? What about the throat hit, is it more tolerable? And I think I need to find me some links on molasses for the states.
You lose me when you talk about euros, but that's OK, I soon find out if I'm interested in it what it equates to in US currency.
Appreciate all the time you've spent on the Iolite. You're the first person who doesn't have a vested interest in it that I've seen do videos. You're the first person I've seen struggle with it, keep going, and find the best avenues of use. For this I really am grateful. My Iolite just might come out of it's hiding place, out of it's little sleeve and into use now.
Do you get more vapor with the molasses? What about the throat hit, is it more tolerable? And I think I need to find me some links on molasses for the states.
You lose me when you talk about euros, but that's OK, I soon find out if I'm interested in it what it equates to in US currency.
Appreciate all the time you've spent on the Iolite. You're the first person who doesn't have a vested interest in it that I've seen do videos. You're the first person I've seen struggle with it, keep going, and find the best avenues of use. For this I really am grateful. My Iolite just might come out of it's hiding place, out of it's little sleeve and into use now.
Thank you so much Sharon I really appreciate the positive comments
and I'll keep reviewing stuff as long as people keep watching the reviews. I know my reviews are far from perfect but they're not meant to be thats why I try my very best to respond to all questions/comments and do follow up videos to cover anything I might miss. With the herbal molasses you get no throat hit, you have to mix in some nic juice with it in order to do that. As far as the vapor production goes, there's very little vapor when you're vaping for the first few mins but 5 or 10 mins into it you start getting loads of vapor. 3 x 50g Soex Herbal Hookah Shisha Molasses YOU CHOOSE! - eBay (item 260456123434 end time Aug-06-09 21:15:00 PDT)
These are they guys I used when ordering molasses. Its 10 usd and free shipping best deal I could find if you're looking to purchase molasses in small amounts.
Crash, I'm going to start a new thread on a very worn out subject...cart fillers. I don't use them because of frustration, etc. I got thinking about the Iolite and what Julie and others have said about the cotton etc. It seems the best to me, yet worries me too. Anyway, as I was thinking I thought about my husband's analogs and light bulb moment. He has filters, they are made for smoking...duh!
I went and got an analog, broke off the filter, cut it in half and put it in a cart. Up till now I've always dripped because I hate the filter material that comes with the cart. this works great! I just went to a "roll your own" website and ordered 400 (two bags) of them, which when cut in half will give me 800 filters! Shipping was a little high, but still for about 12 or 13 dollars I just got 800 fillers for my carts.
I was able to put in ten drops in the cart. Now, I'm wondering if this wouldn't be the perfect material for the Iolite!
Or am I excited for nothing when it comes to the Iolite. I know it's working well with my Prodigy. I tend to burn out atomizers because I either don't drip enough or have problems with dripping too much. This material in the cart works great and I feel like I'm really filtering out additional problem ingredients.
I went and got an analog, broke off the filter, cut it in half and put it in a cart. Up till now I've always dripped because I hate the filter material that comes with the cart. this works great! I just went to a "roll your own" website and ordered 400 (two bags) of them, which when cut in half will give me 800 filters! Shipping was a little high, but still for about 12 or 13 dollars I just got 800 fillers for my carts.
I was able to put in ten drops in the cart. Now, I'm wondering if this wouldn't be the perfect material for the Iolite!
Or am I excited for nothing when it comes to the Iolite. I know it's working well with my Prodigy. I tend to burn out atomizers because I either don't drip enough or have problems with dripping too much. This material in the cart works great and I feel like I'm really filtering out additional problem ingredients.
Hey i've tried those in my 901 carts as fillers but I really didn't like the way they were wicking that much, i much rather prefer pyramid tea bags. However I'll soak one of those filters in eliquid and toss it in the iolite next time i get a chance, I just don't know if the filter will get too hot and melt. That would be really dangers, I don't know if you've ever taken a lighter to one of those filters before, but the results aren't too pleasant.
Hadn't thought about that, the heat and it burning...yikes. But I am using this in my Prodigy right now and loving it! What I do is put about 6 or 7 drops in my cart, then put in the filter slowly which soaks up the liquid. Once I've done that I only add a drop or two every so often and it seems to work great for me. I can't be bothered with the tea bags, which is just me I guess. Cutting a filter in half for me is a lot easier.
agreed the simplest way is usually the best way. I will give it a go in the iolite hopefully it won't melt and result in me inhaling got knows what
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