IPV4 preorder

[wooglins]

Using your PV while charging, and having USB pass-through are two completely different things.

That makes absolutely no sense. Perhaps you misunderstood what I typed. No harm. This is what USB pass-through is:

[h=1]USB Passthrough Battery[/h]USB passthrough battery is easily charged with an USB cable. Anywhere there is the USB port with power supply, you can enjoy vaping, without considering if the battery can be powered on or not. You may like these electronic cigarette batteries, such as Joyetech USB battery, VapeOnly vPulse/flashlight USB battery or Kangertech EVOD USB battery.

 

[IML8]

Yes, but not to a power socket. USB plugs are everywhere, and are not particularity proprietary. Power bricks are a pain in the ...., or as many call them wall warts. It is nice being able to sit at a computer and charge and vape (modern computers are capable of charging a device properly and by modern I mean less than 4 years old).

 

[wooglins]

What is that a picture of? It could be a number of different things, but it looks like a 1/8th inch stereo to female usb plug adapter.

 

[IML8]

it was just a point. There are all sorts of USB adaptors. Should I have used this picture instead?

I'm reasonably certain that whatever form factor the IPV4 requires for charging, one could be found or made that would allow you to charge the device via passthrough while sitting at your computer and using its USB ports. Furthermore, if you use Windows, you can access and control your computer's USB power output via the Device Manager. This is really a non issue.

 

[tehdarkaura]

That's a female USB to 3.5mm Stereo headphone w/ Mic (4 connections) this is most likely an adapter for a cheap tablet or camcorder to give you a usb socket cheaply and to save some space. This is not a "cylo" or barrel connector...

but USB is standardized and only puts out 5Vdc depending if its a wall wort or a computer you might be able to pull 1/4 - 2 amps from it... but that's not going to be enough for the 9Vdc input they specified regardless... Now last I saw that spec they also said the batteries were in series, if they are parallel like the new spec says then they could easily charge them safely off of a 5Vdc feed. We will have to wait and see

 

[Petabread]

I don't know if anyone else has seen the message, but eciggity just updated their website saying "P4U is waiting for the boxes to build the unit. ETA is next week" or something. Very disappointing, considering the dang things aren't even built yet. Too anxious.

 

[Nailz]

I don't know if anyone else has seen the message, but eciggity just updated their website saying "P4U is waiting for the boxes to build the unit. ETA is next week" or something. Very disappointing, considering the dang things aren't even built yet. Too anxious.

Yes pretty sad as they been working on this thing for months now, hope the wait is going to be worth it.

 

[Petabread]

Yes pretty sad as they been working on this thing for months now, hope the wait is going to be worth it.

I agree. I love their products, but that's just crazy. None of the other vendors I've seen have updated their status in quite a while, but I trust Eciggity. Pretty disappointing news, especially since other vendors have been charging their customers and claiming they'd be shipped out on Wednesday. I hope Eciggity is wrong here!

 

[Croak]

With all this whining about power bricks versus USB charging, nobody mentioned that charging two 18650's with a 0.5a USB connected to your computer would take somewhere around 6-10 hours. The supplied IPV4 charger will do it four times as fast. Keep in mind these aren't little 600mAh Ego batteries we're talking about here.

Plus, you know, removable batteries and tool-free battery door...you could just buy a couple spare batteries and a standalone 1A or 2A multi-port charger, like anyone with 18650 devices should do anyway.

So, I suggest folks enjoy the fact that with the 2a "brick" Pioneer4You gave you way to charge both batteries in a reasonable time frame WITHOUT the additional expense of a standalone charger.

And none of the mods on the market really do "pass-through". It's more of a bypass, stopping charging while you vape, provided there's enough juice in the battery to power a vape in the first place. Kinda hard to power a 10a-35a load with a half amp or even two amp charger, don't you think?

 

[rowsley]

That's what I'm talking bout. I got 2 pairs of batteries and a efest luc v4 just for the ipv4. Wont be doing any plugging in.

 

[IML8]

With all this whining about power bricks versus USB charging, nobody mentioned that charging two 18650's with a 0.5a USB connected to your computer would take somewhere around 6-10 hours. The supplied IPV4 charger will do it four times as fast. Keep in mind these aren't little 600mAh Ego batteries we're talking about here.

Plus, you know, removable batteries and tool-free battery door...you could just buy a couple spare batteries and a standalone 1A or 2A multi-port charger, like anyone with 18650 devices should do anyway.

So, I suggest folks enjoy the fact that with the 2a "brick" Pioneer4You gave you way to charge both batteries in a reasonable time frame WITHOUT the additional expense of a standalone charger.

And none of the mods on the market really do "pass-through". It's more of a bypass, stopping charging while you vape, provided there's enough juice in the battery to power a vape in the first place. Kinda hard to power a 10a-35a load with a half amp or even two amp charger, don't you think?

Yes. Plus extension cords are fairly cheap. I'm guessing most people have multiple alternate electrical outlets somewhere near their computer station. Like I said, this is a non-issue all the way around...at least for the vast majority. Plugging it into your computer's USB while you vape, if that's your only option, will certainly help extend battery life, though. Lots of other options for most people.

 

[Completely Average]

With all this whining about power bricks versus USB charging, nobody mentioned that charging two 18650's with a 0.5a USB connected to your computer would take somewhere around 6-10 hours.

Probably because most of us have computers that are newer than 5 years old and charge at 1.5A, not .5A. USB 2.0 and up have had 1.5A battery charging since 2011. (BC1.2 Specifications)

https://www.pericom.com/support/technical-articles/how-usb-charges-just-about-any-electronic-device/

The supplied IPV4 charger will do it four times as fast.

More like 33% faster, which isn't enough to justify me having to stop work and walk across the room to use it when I'm sitting at my computer. I am a network administrator for a living, I sort of need to be at my computer.

Keep in mind these aren't little 600mAh Ego batteries we're talking about here.

Keep in mind my PC USB port charges a VTC5 in less than 2 hours and a VTC4 in less than an hour and a half.

Plus, you know, removable batteries and tool-free battery door...you could just buy a couple spare batteries and a standalone 1A or 2A multi-port charger, like anyone with 18650 devices should do anyway.

I don't know about you, but I don't want to carry one of those things plus two more batteries to work with me every day. That's even more inconvenient than using the brick.

So, I suggest folks enjoy the fact that with the 2a "brick" Pioneer4You gave you way to charge both batteries in a reasonable time frame WITHOUT the additional expense of a standalone charger.

Sorry, but I can't really "enjoy" the fact that I'm now going to be stuck having to plug my mod in on the other side of the room and having to stop what I'm doing and walk across the room and stand in the corner like an idiot to take a couple of puffs just to save 30 minutes of charge time. My USB port could charge this thing in less than 3 hours and their brick will only charge it in a little over 2 hours. Not much savings in time for the massive loss of convenience.

 

[Croak]

Whole lotta folks out there with pre-Sandy Bridge PCs and laptops, or systems that eschewed USB 3.0 ports for cost reasons, and folks are still reliant on the board makers to have enabled high output charging on a particular port, (and a lot don't) or require that the user change a setting in BIOS or use software tweaks. Then there's the plethora of USB wall and car chargers out there people will be using, 500mA is the most common by far for now.

And it doesn't matter anyway, because the USB charging boards on the mods themselves are almost always 500mA with the notable exception of the rDNA40 which has a 2 amp board. So I'd like to know what mod you're using that can power up a 2500mAh VTC5 that quick, if it's not an rDNA40.

Then there's the matter of balanced charging on a series box which is a whole 'nother can of worms, and likely the main reason they went with the non-USB charger in the first place, with faster charging just being gravy.

 

[ThunderDan]

That makes absolutely no sense. Perhaps you misunderstood what I typed. No harm. This is what USB pass-through is:

[h=1]USB Passthrough Battery[/h]USB passthrough battery is easily charged with an USB cable. Anywhere there is the USB port with power supply, you can enjoy vaping, without considering if the battery can be powered on or not. You may like these electronic cigarette batteries, such as Joyetech USB battery, VapeOnly vPulse/flashlight USB battery or Kangertech EVOD USB battery.

No, I meant what I said. I know what USB passthrough is. You wouldn't want USB passthrough on most regulated mods, and no previous IPV series mods have had passthrough. USB passthrough is limited by the USB input, which on most USB ports is 1A, and as Croak pointed out on most mods they are .5A. Example, a .5ohm subohm tank at 3.7v would be around 7.4A, see why that's a bad idea? The definition you gave is spot on, however that isn't what you were talking about doing if you think about it.

What you are referring to could be more accurately described as charging while vaping. Which has worked on all the IPV series mods I've tried as long as the batteries had enough charge to do what i was asking of it. Well with the exception of the ipv3 which I never tried charging.

Now all of this is moot, because the ipv4 doesn't even have a USB charging port, it is for firmware updates, so obviously it won't have USB passthrough. The manual clearly states the charging option will be done with a 9V "charging cable". It also doesn't say one way or the other if you can/should vape while charging. I wouldn't do it, doesn't seem like a good idea to me to be charging batteries in series and vaping on it, but I'm sure some people will try it, and it will probably work fine for them.

 

[sando7]

just hope V.R. gets theirs and sends them out on the 17th, ordered the blk and already have a blk full size Freak-Show.

 

[Kaana]

I don't know if anyone else has seen the message, but eciggity just updated their website saying "P4U is waiting for the boxes to build the unit. ETA is next week" or something. Very disappointing, considering the dang things aren't even built yet. Too anxious.

For real ?

that pushing back happens all the time

 

[Nibiru2012]

per that description "the other end" of the charger cable likely has an AC adapter... I think by "Cyclo connector" they mean barrel connector -- the same thing on your monitor, landline portable pones, and routers.... I do have to admit that "Cyclo" sounds way cooler than "Barrel" though

Maybe it does come with the AC adapter... maybe it doesn't. The manual doesn't really state one way or the other.
It just states "1X Charging Cable". We'll really know when the units finally arrive and customer feedback appears here on this website.
I was merely adding some info for others to read about.

Personally I don't like charging batteries in the MOD device. Too inaccurate for me.
I have dedicated matched pairs of LG HE4 18650 batteries that I currently use with my Vapor Flask V3 replica device, one pair charging or charged while vaping on the other pair.

I use an XTAR charger with the algorithmic charging with constant current - constant voltage.
Much more efficient and safer versus in-device charging IMHO.

 

[Ggrhaulin]

Is this going to have the spring loaded 510 connector like the leaf 20w or threaded. Anyone know?
Maybe the deal breaker for me. So sick of dealing with it on the other models.
I've had mine pre-ordered since Feb and now I see eciggity just updated release 4-24-15 which starting to look like a marketing scam in stead of just telling us September 2020.

 

[IML8]

Why does my brain see egg city every time my eyes see the name eciggity? It's a mystery. I'm not sure, Ggrhoulin. It seems like I heard or read somewhere that it was a spring loaded connecter, but I can't remember for sure. I'm probably thinking of something else. I know the natives are getting restless about this thing. If it's a marketing ploy, it might backfire in the long run...unless it turns out to be a really awesome device then, of course, people's selective memory will kick in and all the BS will be forgotten.

 

[Kaana]

my brain says no diggity from blackstreet