Is a 30 watt useful if I can not build my own coils

[WickedBad]

I take a medication that causes me to have shaky hands. It is actually a little hard just refilling clears. I love my full size nautilus as it is the easiest for me to fill. So basically building is not in my future.

Would it even be worth trying to go to a 30watt mod with nautilus bvc? Should I just stick with 15w apvs?

Thanks for your time

 

[FallenRawToast]

If you are just talking about current tech... the 1.8ohm and 1.6ohm coils that you can currently buy for a BVC the answer is "no, not really". But consider this, the 2nd generation of aerotank coils come as low as a 0.8ohm, and for that... sometimes you might want a little bit more than a 15w.

So while currently I dont think you need it, you might in the near future. If you are looking to buy right now... I would say pay a little extra and get a 30w, so you are "future proofed", but if you currently have as 15w... there IMO is no need for you in your current situation to upgrade out of need.

 

[Completely Average]

If you are just talking about current tech... the 1.8ohm and 1.6ohm coils that you can currently buy for a BVC the answer is "no, not really". But consider this, the 2nd generation of aerotank coils come as low as a 0.8ohm, and for that... sometimes you might want a little bit more than a 15w.

So while currently I dont think you need it, you might in the near future. If you are looking to buy right now... I would say pay a little extra and get a 30w, so you are "future proofed", but if you currently have as 15w... there IMO is no need for you in your current situation to upgrade out of need.

*Looks at the 17 watt setting I'm currently using with an Aerotank with 1.8ohm coils*

I disagree.

The ohm coil has nothing to do with it. It's all about the wicking. A 2 ohm coil at 20 watts works like a subohm build. Provided it's wicked right there are no problems running high wattage on standard coils.

 

[Innosint]

As far as I know, some vendor actually sells pre build coils for RDA and RTA,
For example, VAPORDNA (can't post links) sells the pre build one.

Threading the pre-build coil/cotten into place shouldn't be as hard as building the coil.
but even if threading the coil/cotton is an issue... then maybe ask some friend/local vape shop to help you out?


I have personally never tried the nautilus, so I dont' know its limit
, but when it comes to regulated devices, the ohms on the coil matters less,

It's still going to output the designated power regardless.
what's important is whether the built in coil or wick can handle the power.

my Aerotank at 1.8 ohm can barely take it at 15 watt though....

 

[Susan~S]

Threading the pre-build coil/cotten into place shouldn't be as hard as building the coil.
but even if threading the coil/cotton is an issue... then maybe ask some friend/local vape shop to help you out?

I second the recommendation to see if your local vape shop can help you out.

My local vape shop (a BIG shout out to Smokeless Smoking in Mpls/St. Paul) makes all my coils for me for free. I have a disability that (for all practical purposes) renders me basically one-handed. I went in for the first time this week with my 2 Foggers, my REO, my Pontus and my Magma and they made coils for all of these (to my spec).

From now on I'm going in with a batch of chocolate chip cookies or brownies since they would not let me give them anything for their time! Of course, I did pick up a new eliquid I had never tried.

 

[ch1mney]

I bought a vapor shark 30watt with a kayfun. I trIed to use my nautilus on it and above 18 watts and it did not perform well. There is not enough airflow and it dIdn't wick well enough. If you like dry hits then you wOuld like a nautilus above 18 watts . Anyway imo it's not worth it.

 

[tchavei]

Where there is will...

Making the coil is relatively simple. Even with shaky hands, it's doable as you only need to wrap a wire around something. Sure it won't be easy and you will get frustrated but you will get there. Screwing the coil to the posts might be the most difficult part but if you get an atty that allows to hold the coil through a hole in the posts and then tighten it from above it is possible.

I receive a lot of trainees in my IT department and had a share of students with disabilities including extreme shaking hands and most managed quite well even in the hardware division replacing processors and even soldering some capacitors. I particularly remember an older student that couldn't hold the soldering iron and he just kept at it for hours until he found a trick that worked with him (pushed his arms against the table and use only his hands that were resting on the table also) and he managed to solder quite a few capacitors without a single cold joint. I was quite impressed so like I said,

If there is will...



Regards
Tony

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[67Tele]

I have a Sigelei v5 (15watts) and a Sigelei 20watt. I use the Nautilus and Nautilus mini on both. On the 20W I can take it up to 17 watts, with 1.8 BVC coils, but, that's appearing to be either the limit or just above because it starts getting a little too hot. This is with thicker tobacco/coffee liquids. I'm really glad the OP asked this because i'd been eyeing the VaporShark and now...

Thanks man!

Then again, Fallen might have a good point about Future Protection...

I bought a vapor shark 30watt with a kayfun. I trIed to use my nautilus on it and above 18 watts and it did not perform well. There is not enough airflow and it dIdn't wick well enough. If you like dry hits then you wOuld like a nautilus above 18 watts . Anyway imo it's not worth it.

 

[ch1mney]

Vaporshark is a good mod. I use it when im out or at work and dripping is to much to do. Otherwise I prefer a rda on a mech. But using a 1.6ish coil on my kayfun at 22watts gets me good flavor/vapor production.

 

[realsis]

Honestly, if your not going to be building your own coils I highly and seriously doubt any premade coil configuration will let you vape as high as 30. So 30 watts might be a bit over kill. With a premade coil as high of wattage I've ever been able to vape has been 11 watts. Then they tend to burn. I now vape at a much higher wattage but I do my own builds. So to honestly answer your questions, yes 30 watts is a bit much for a pre made coil. I hope this is helpful and wish you the best.

 

[amoret]

There is absolutely nothing that says a person has to or should make their own coils if they can't, could only do it with difficulty or just flat out don't want to.

I also have hand problems. I probably could make coils if I really tried, but I don't see any reason to add yet another frustration to my life. Please, everybody, stop pushing this. It's great if you want to do this, but it is totally possible to be completely satisfied with vaping with stock coils.

 

[SunshinePete]

I second the recommendation to see if your local vape shop can help you out.

My local vape shop (a BIG shout out to Smokeless Smoking in Mpls/St. Paul) makes all my coils for me for free. I have a disability that (for all practical purposes) renders me basically one-handed. I went in for the first time this week with my 2 Foggers, my REO, my Pontus and my Magma and they made coils for all of these (to my spec).

From now on I'm going in with a batch of chocolate chip cookies or brownies since they would not let me give them anything for their time! Of course, I did pick up a new eliquid I had never tried.

This story I like, it encourages me to hear of people helping out.

 

[Marc411]

Wicked, check out the vaping donuts at the top of the page at SHOP - Fat Daddy Vapes

I tried them before I had my box mod and they were ok, now I fire them at 20 to 30 watts in a dripper and they produce real nice vapor. They work best in a dripper like the Stillare because of the for post design. No rebuilding necessary just some wire cutters and a screw driver. Back them with cotton and vape away. Dry burning also cleans them up pretty well.

 

[tchavei]

There is absolutely nothing that says a person has to or should make their own coils if they can't, could only do it with difficulty or just flat out don't want to.

I also have hand problems. I probably could make coils if I really tried, but I don't see any reason to add yet another frustration to my life. Please, everybody, stop pushing this. It's great if you want to do this, but it is totally possible to be completely satisfied with vaping with stock coils.

I said it was possible but obviously it depends on each person. Of course you can have a good vape without building your coils just not sure you can push a stock commercial coil at 30w right now. Maybe in a few months manufacturers will go down that route and offer sub ohm coils. Right now, the only option I see is either making or someone making you a coil intended for such high powered vapes. It's like not wanting to get a driving license but wanting to race a high powered car... Right now there are no race cars with auto pilots so you will have to wait until there are.

Answering the original question : if I had a low end device, I would definitely get something with 30w. I might have no use for that range now but in a few months, who knows? I would be upset if I went a lower wattage route just to find some new head made for 30w in a couple of months and be unable to try it out.



Regards
Tony

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[IMRs]

I said it was possible but obviously it depends on each person. Of course you can have a good vape without building your coils just not sure you can push a stock commercial coil at 30w right now. Maybe in a few months manufacturers will go down that route and offer sub ohm coils. Right now, the only option I see is either making or someone making you a coil intended for such high powered vapes. It's like not wanting to get a driving license but wanting to race a high powered car... Right now there are no race cars with auto pilots so you will have to wait until there are.

Answering the original question : if I had a low end device, I would definitely get something with 30w. I might have no use for that range now but in a few months, who knows? I would be upset if I went a lower wattage route just to find some new head made for 30w in a couple of months and be unable to try it out.



Regards
Tony

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Hello Tony. I'm just now trying to get a grasp on this. I never owned a box mod and was considering one of those iSicks. Say if you have a Protank single coil and you want to use it on a 20 watt vv/vw box mod, can't you just turn it down so it won't get too hot on you? I usually vape at around 6 or 6 1/2 watts.

 

[lownote2]

I take a medication that causes me to have shaky hands. It is actually a little hard just refilling clears. I love my full size nautilus as it is the easiest for me to fill. So basically building is not in my future.

Would it even be worth trying to go to a 30watt mod with nautilus bvc? Should I just stick with 15w apvs?

Thanks for your time

If you have a hard time filling tanks, dripping might be challenging too. No one has asked the obvious though: What do you usually vape at? I do have a mod and dripper and get it a bit low, .6 to .7 ohms usually, sometimes down to .4 which would be 44 watts on a fully charged battery. However, most of the time I'm using my kayfun with a 1.5 ohm build at 8-10 watts. I'm quite happy with that.

Are you happy with what you're vaping or dissatisfied? If you're usually at 10 watts or whatever and happy, then I see no reason to get a 30 watt device. All that being said, I know there are a few coils maybe made for higher wattage, but regular tanks/clearos to me have never seemed to perform well at high wattage, juice always tastes too burnt. Just my two cents.

I would second those who encourage you to try making coils if you thought you could. Then maybe higher wattage would be something you may enjoy. Again, only my 2 cents

 

[tchavei]

Yes you can. That's the beauty of regulated devices.

Imagine this... I have a itaste vv3 that can go up to 11w. I also have an evic supreme that can go up to 30w. I mostly vape at 10w so both devices work perfectly for my use.
However, the other day I was experimenting with a coca cola flavor (was given to me) and I didn't like it so I started to up the wattage and at 16w it became acceptable. Not sure why but it did... Now I can't finish of the liquid on my vv3 because it won't go high as 16w... Only 11w.

The same could be true for another liquid that tastes burned at higher watts but is OK at 5,6w.

I would always get the higher powered devices because you might need the extra power some day.

Limiting ourselves just because we have no use for 30w right now isn't the best choice IMHO.

Now between a regulated 100w mod and a mech... I would probably go the mech route.

Regards
Tony

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[IMRs]

Yes you can. That's the beauty of regulated devices.

Imagine this... I have a itaste vv3 that can go up to 11w. I also have an evic supreme that can go up to 30w. I mostly vape at 10w so both devices work perfectly for my use.
However, the other day I was experimenting with a coca cola flavor (was given to me) and I didn't like it so I started to up the wattage and at 16w it became acceptable. Not sure why but it did... Now I can't finish of the liquid on my vv3 because it won't go high as 16w... Only 11w.

The same could be true for another liquid that tastes burned at higher watts but is OK at 5,6w.

I would always get the higher powered devices because you might need the extra power some day.

Limiting ourselves just because we have no use for 30w right now isn't the best choice IMHO.

Now between a regulated 100w mod and a mech... I would probably go the mech route.

Regards
Tony

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Thanks for the input Tony. That's good to hear!

 

[klynnn]

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