Is getting a mech mod worth it?
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I was more asking what had the best material as far as materials, reliability, looks, etc.
While I know how electricity works, I dont have much knowledge on what mech mods are good.
Ended up getting the VGOD mech today. While it is a direct battery contact, I think I can handle it.
Currently vaping on a Tiger coil at .39 ohms with a Samsung rated to 25A. Thinking of doing a dual hive coil at around .25-.30
Been vaping for around a year now, and know enough about electronics to build my computer, fix phones, etc. I know how to use them safely, I do not know much about what mechs are quality. I do have a firm grasp on how to build safely so my amp load isnt too high and how to not short out the atomizer, and I do own an ohm reader as of today
There are considerations for ergonomics and looks, but the main (in my opinion) factor that needs to be considered is the voltage drop. VD is the amount of voltage that is lost within the mod itself. This inefficiency dictates what build you need to to get your desired wattage at the coil. Voltage drop increases exponentially with current, so the lower the resistance of the coil/s the greater the VD will be. To compensate for this power loss you may then build lower exacerbating the issue in a downward spiral. This inefficiency also represents lost power that could have been used for longer run-time.
The material and the amount of that material used is a major factor eg. copper, SS etc., but the actual design of the device is equally important.
Personally I would prefer an ugly tube if it had a low voltage drop.
'Quality' is highly subjective and imo inherent in the device itself independent of price or appearance. Quality isn't something you lay on top of objects like tinsel on a Christmas tree.
My mech of choice is a Stingray X clone, which has the distinction (for me at least) of being both ergonomic, pretty, and having the lowest VD of any mech I've come across.
The material and the amount of that material used is a major factor eg. copper, SS etc., but the actual design of the device is equally important.
Personally I would prefer an ugly tube if it had a low voltage drop.
'Quality' is highly subjective and imo inherent in the device itself independent of price or appearance. Quality isn't something you lay on top of objects like tinsel on a Christmas tree.
My mech of choice is a Stingray X clone, which has the distinction (for me at least) of being both ergonomic, pretty, and having the lowest VD of any mech I've come across.
I wasnt referring to knowledge about "how electricity works".
I was referring to specific knowledge about mechanical mods and how ohm's law relates to them.
You need to FULLY understand exactly how the device you are using works and know what you are doing.
You are essentially shorting a high discharge battery with a piece of wire, that is sealed in a metal tube...
While you are sucking on it.
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Shxt hapens, using mechanical you have to be very vigilant.
I still remember using a cheap tube mod and somehow internally a piece dropped from the top and it was hard shorting. No explosion but it was so hot couldn't unscrew it and threw it to the ground to burn out. Luckily no explosion.
There is no difference between the quality of vape of a mechanical and a quality VW model. Yes in the old days they used PWM that hissed like a rattlesnake, but nowadays the pulses are so close together their is no discernible difference in quality of vape.
One other advantage to a regulated Mod is that a mechanical will start out at a higher voltage and stronger vape and as the battery goes down will become weaker. A regulated mod keeps stable and consistent vape from beginning to end.
I still remember using a cheap tube mod and somehow internally a piece dropped from the top and it was hard shorting. No explosion but it was so hot couldn't unscrew it and threw it to the ground to burn out. Luckily no explosion.
There is no difference between the quality of vape of a mechanical and a quality VW model. Yes in the old days they used PWM that hissed like a rattlesnake, but nowadays the pulses are so close together their is no discernible difference in quality of vape.
One other advantage to a regulated Mod is that a mechanical will start out at a higher voltage and stronger vape and as the battery goes down will become weaker. A regulated mod keeps stable and consistent vape from beginning to end.
Where did you buy the Sting Ray clone and who made it? Looks nice.There are considerations for ergonomics and looks, but the main (in my opinion) factor that needs to be considered is the voltage drop. VD is the amount of voltage that is lost within the mod itself. This inefficiency dictates what build you need to to get your desired wattage at the coil. Voltage drop increases exponentially with current, so the lower the resistance of the coil/s the greater the VD will be. To compensate for this power loss you may then build lower exacerbating the issue in a downward spiral. This inefficiency also represents lost power that could have been used for longer run-time.
The material and the amount of that material used is a major factor eg. copper, SS etc., but the actual design of the device is equally important.
Personally I would prefer an ugly tube if it had a low voltage drop.
'Quality' is highly subjective and imo inherent in the device itself independent of price or appearance. Quality isn't something you lay on top of objects like tinsel on a Christmas tree.
My mech of choice is a Stingray X clone, which has the distinction (for me at least) of being both ergonomic, pretty, and having the lowest VD of any mech I've come across.
Incorrect.
There is an extremely noticable difference.
This is why many of us choose mechanical mods.
Let's agree to disagree.
I will agree that there is a certain ramp up time for the coil that is different for a mechanical, but I prefer the consistency of a VW or TC APV.
I don't find any difference in vaping once the coil reaches full temperature.
Sorry to pick apart your post but
my mechanical mod doesn't decide to jump up to 6v, and instantly fry wicks if it doesn't have perfectly clean 510 threading.
my mechanical mod doesn't decide to jump up to 6v, and instantly fry wicks if it doesn't have perfectly clean 510 threading.
I enjoy the banter.
Been vaping on VW and VV with many devices for many years and never experienced or heard about what you are describing. I'm sure it happened but we can't judge all protected devices over a fluke.
Whereas the vape weakening as the battery discharges is a Universal attribute to Mechanicals.
You can't blame a shoddy connection on all VW devices. That sudden jump usually occurs when the atomizer loosens while you're vaping, or the 510 decides to take a dump.
Been thinking of stashing one in a box. Regulators will never stop and it sounds nice not having to worry about a fancy board dying. Personally though, with the options available now I wouldn't be comfy using one. The utility and lifespan is very appealing to me rather than a throwaway mod though. My lavatube and a few egos still work but my kanger just recently quit after a year.
Let's just not generalize.
YOU may not notice, but it's still there.
Many of us, including myself, can distinguish the difference.
We do notice.
The ramp up time from the metal mass of the coil. More metal=longer ramp.
The fire lag is inherent to chips and will vary from mod to mod.
It's non existent on a mech.
Know your gear.
Indeed. There is a distinct difference between a plain jane coil vs a clapton vs an alien clapton. That mass of metal requires much more heating time to ramp up. The beauty of a mech: no chip = no regulation = less tomfoolery, so what your battery gots gets dumped straight away into your coils without any electro wizardy, relying purely on your build.
Hmm this
So
Hmm The mechanical is directly from battery to connector.
The regulated either have Boost or Buck Step Down Voltage Down features. So does a wire heat up at the same rate on a mechanical verse a regulated?
Also is there a difference between Series verse Parallel or Boost verses Buck.
I'm very interested to hear a scientific answer.
I'm referring to the ability to heat the wire, not a lag at the beginning.Let's just not generalize.
YOU may not notice, but it's still there.
Many of us, including myself, can distinguish the difference.
We do notice.
The ramp up time from the metal mass of the coil. More metal=longer ramp.
The fire lag is inherent to chips and will vary from mod to mod.
It's non existent on a mech.
Know your gear.
So
Hmm The mechanical is directly from battery to connector.
The regulated either have Boost or Buck Step Down Voltage Down features. So does a wire heat up at the same rate on a mechanical verse a regulated?
Also is there a difference between Series verse Parallel or Boost verses Buck.
I'm very interested to hear a scientific answer.
The power is delivered differently.
Thats why there is a noticable difference in the vape.
Its not a " better or worse" situation, just different.
There is no argument, its a plain fact.
Know your gear.
Vape safe.
The Best thing about a regulated Mod,, it allows more people to stop smoking. Even a Caveman can handle a regulated.
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