........ is getting too much junk

[Racehorse]

The problem is that Joe is a face for the vaping community and recommends some junk items.

Um.....I have never seen Joe bill himself as a "consumer advocate"?

He's a researcher who finds and aggregates deals and posts them........I dont think he should be expected to be a "babysitter" too.

Chrysler, Ford, P&G, Nabisco, Sears, Walmart (insert name of any company here) all recommend some junk items. The job of the consumer is to figure out what they want to buy during a sale.

404, believe me, what he's doing is not that lucrative, but it also amazes me how some people seem to begrudge him the $ he does make.

Try to find somebody to do that for you, in the corporate world and then see what your monthly "bill" is.

Vapor Joe is not the "face" of the ecig community, and he's no poster boy, this is not a charity. He is simply PROVIDING A SERVICE, and for that, he should get paid. If you don't want the service, then dont' use it.

I love the people who say they use his newsletter but won't click on his links, and instead go directly to the vendor he sited. That doesn't seem at all ethical to me....you are usiing somebody's work and then not letting them get paid for it? So sorry, not "smart"...."unethical."

 

[EddieAdams]

Maybe you can start searching the internet for good deals for complete strangers. The guy is doing a completely free service of finding good deals on vaping items and you're complaining. Find your own then. I don't even follow Joe but, have been linked to his page. What's wrong with this generation? The entitlement is amazing...

Fast tech has great deals on some name brand items. Don't follow Joe then. Cancel your free subscription. To start a thread is just arrogance and states your mindset...

 

[jefsview]

He only gets paid a few cents per click thru.

It's not much. Like the Youtube money, it barely enough for a cup of coffee.

When he was on Clickbang -- there was more people upset at him for not make MORE money out of it!!!! He's got HUGE numbers, a HUGE audience, but he gets pennies back. Many folks were jealous that he WASN'T taking advantage of that.

He seems like a good guy, and he does give back through Modenvy giveaways and promotes charities. And I think he's pretty humble about it too. He makes his money through Ebay, but supports Vaping in a big way.

Someday, he might chase the money-dragon. So far, he's done a lot of work, and continues to do so that we, the consumers and the vaping community, profit from saving money.

 

[440BB]

9 million visits to the site so far, still in the first year.

If on average each visit generates just one click on one deal to learn more, at 2 cents a click that's $180,000.

That's enough for a couple cups of coffee.

It's not that it makes him money, it's that he claims it's just a hobby and an unbiased look at deals that smells funny.

 

[GameDesigner]

After revealing that some vendors were paying him affiliate fees for his posting a few weeks ago, the site quickly moved to mostly sponsored deals. Some of them are still good deals. I find many of them at gotsmok.com, and on a number of occasions they have posted the deal first.

The site states "This is simply a passionate hobby of mine." and "Over 90% of vendors are unaffiliated deals." It appears that the majority of deals now pay fees for every click. In my opinion, this was the business plan from the beginning, and the volume of denials suggest to me it is very profitable.

The site's header states "an unbiased look at deals in the vaping community". When you profit from some vendors' deals and not others, unbiased isn't really possible.

Agreed. Thanks for this tip-off thread. I wasn't aware that the blog was anything more than it promoted itself as being.

 

[Racehorse]

he claims it's just a hobby and an unbiased look at deals that smells funny.

This is not directed at you personally, but your comments do make me think:

Nobody is stopping anyone from providing a counter-newsletter with UNBIASED look at deals.

If it's so lucrative, I guess I'm surprised that he is the only one doing it.

For that alone, I'll give him smarts, ingenuity, and work ethic.

This is a "build it and they will come" scenario. There are always those who follow in the footsteps of what someone else has built, and set out to build a better mousetrap.

Some young enterprising vaping geek could certainly try to do it better.....and that sure beats complaining about how somebody else is doing it. And probably pays better.

 

[hottierockstar]

9 million visits to the site so far, still in the first year.

If on average each visit generates just one click on one deal to learn more, at 2 cents a click that's $180,000.

That's enough for a couple cups of coffee.

It's not that it makes him money, it's that he claims it's just a hobby and an unbiased look at deals that smells funny.

that is visitors to the blog...not clicks and purchases from affiliate links...... *sigh*

 

[hottierockstar]

This is not directed at you personally, but your comments do make me think:

Nobody is stopping anyone from providing a counter-newsletter with UNBIASED look at deals.

If it's so lucrative, I guess I'm surprised that he is the only one doing it.

For that alone, I'll give him smarts, ingenuity, and work ethic.

This is a "build it and they will come" scenario. There are always those who follow in the footsteps of what someone else has built, and set out to build a better mousetrap.

Some young enterprising vaping geek could certainly try to do it better.....and that sure beats complaining about how somebody else is doing it. And probably pays better.

he isn't the only one doing it...he is just the only one that is good at *marketing* it.....

 

[GameDesigner]

Maybe you can start searching the internet for good deals for complete strangers. The guy is doing a completely free service of finding good deals on vaping items and you're complaining. Find your own then. I don't even follow Joe but, have been linked to his page. What's wrong with this generation? The entitlement is amazing...

Fast tech has great deals on some name brand items. Don't follow Joe then. Cancel your free subscription. To start a thread is just arrogance and states your mindset...

So understanding that promoting yourself as an unbiased blog when in fact you are hosting paid-for promotions that are not marked as such, is a generational thing now? If so, prior generations were in fact wiser, as standards that mitigated what in the publishing world are known as "seeming improprieties" were far stricter. It's as simple as this: It's unethical if I tell you I'm an unbiased consumer such as yourself and am promoting product X out of personal interest, but am actually making a cut on it. Feel free to play along, there is nothing wrong in you knowing what's happening and hopping on board. But to attack others for daring to speak about it on a message board is absurd.

 

[Penn]

For those complaining about someone making money on click throughs - re-evaluate your usage of many sites, including this one. If you hover over a link with certain settings you will see the exact link. You may notice all fasttech links on this site start with "shareasale". What exactly do you think that is? It's how this site pays their bills.

 

[GameDesigner]

For those complaining about someone making money on click throughs - re-evaluate your usage of many sites, including this one. If you hover over a link with certain settings you will see the exact link. You may notice all fasttech links on this site start with "shareasale". What exactly do you think that is? It's how this site pays their bills.

The difference is that transparent advertising is always acceptable. No one is concerned that someone's making money. In fact, I should hope that ECF is compensated in some way when we click through what are clear advertisements and end up on the ad buyers' sites (I know I've clicked on the ProVari banner here before). But this isn't that. This is the equivalent of an ECF member posting threads about GapingVapers.net every day in the guise of a typical forum member and then profiting when you click through to GapingVapers.net.

 

[ubergeek922]

Educate me. Do referral links pay just by clicking the link or does a purchase need to be made? Hypothetically, If I want to buy from fasttech and go to vaporjoes, click a link for product "x", then end up buying products A, B, & C instead, would he get a cut of it? If so, that's what I'll start doing. Yeah I can click the new products button the same as he can and find some decent prices, but there are a lot of deals and sites I would not have found without him.

 

[GameDesigner]

Educate me. Do referral links pay just by clicking the link or does a purchase need to be made? Hypothetically, If I want to buy from fasttech and go to vaporjoes, click a link for product "x", then end up buying products A, B, & C instead, would he get a cut of it? If so, that's what I'll start doing. Yeah I can click the new products button the same as he can and find some decent prices, but there are a lot of deals and sites I would not have found without him.

This is what it sounds like. If you want to help him, yeah, use only the clickthrough urls he provides.

 

[Glen Snyder]

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[donesmokin]

First classwife and now ........? Oh that's right, grimmgreen gets attacked for saying "toot". Carry on...

 

[DaxFX]

I am the one who started this thread and my intension was to try to get from vapor joes better good deals, real deals and try to stop him to post so many junk from fasttech. As i said befor and on the email i sent him i do like fasttech and they have good deals but as well they have a bunch of crap.

If VJ is doing this to help the vaping community he need to stop posting some junk that really dont work and can get some frustration in new vapers just because they are cheap items.

Thats was my point, i dont care if he use affiliate links or if he get a profit, in fact he deserved because the time he took to post the deals.


JOE IF YOU READ THIS please spend the time in real deals and not from those fasttech crappy items


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[hottierockstar]

uhm.....it isn't vaporjoes or fasttech that is producing the junk....please write a letter to China
thankyou

 

[DaxFX]

uhm.....it isn't vaporjoes or fasttech that is producing the junk....please write a letter to China
thankyou

The junk is coming from fasttech DUHHH, but he is pushing people to buy those junk by saying "this is a extreme good deal on this item go buy it"




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[chellemmm]

People need to learn to think for themselves. Read Between The Lines...Caveat Emptor, capisce? Tu comprend?

 

[hottierockstar]

The junk is coming from fasttech DUHHH, but he is pushing people to buy those junk by saying "this is a extreme good deal on this item go buy it"




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he isn't pushing anyone to do anything or saying 'you must go buy this'....he is saying "hey i found this if you are interested"

here we go again...
IF the deals are on fasttech so be it....if they are not on fasttech they can still be junk....
with the exception of a few items that are hard to find and not cheap....EVERYTHING is mass produced in china....if you are expecting a "good deal" on a caravela, poldiac, kayfun, or even a provari.....good luck....and that won't be published on a site that has had 9m visitors....that will be a co-op or a sale/deal that you will have to suss out for yourself.....


p.s. vaperjoes posts a lot of deals that aren't fasttech...just so happens that currently fasttech's ecig inventory is growing at break neck speed....