Strange. I haven't heard of a single case where someone was complaining that Vapor Joe forced them to buy something against their will.
Rhetoric much?
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Strange. I haven't heard of a single case where someone was complaining that Vapor Joe forced them to buy something against their will.
Rhetoric much?
Well I follow the ........ site on Facebook and I got a great deal on some shoes and a home loan this week so it isn't all bad.
Actually I have a fantastic idea. How about everyone who doesn't like the site just look at the deals, decide if they like the deal or not, then use the deal or don't use the deal depending on that decision. Or god forbid just stop frequenting the site and save yourself a lot of money on tissues.
The entire argument suggests there are a lot of other deals out there he is ignoring because fast tech has him in their pocket or something which I think is a ridiculous idea.
Actually I have a fantastic idea. How about everyone who doesn't like the site just look at the deals, decide if they like the deal or not, then use the deal or don't use the deal depending on that decision. Or god forbid just stop frequenting the site and save yourself a lot of money on tissues.
The entire argument suggests there are a lot of other deals out there he is ignoring because fast tech has him in their pocket or something which I think is a ridiculous idea.
I think the shift to some lower quality goods ties in to the site generating money from clicks. Promoting attractive prices generates clicks, which make money, regardless of quality. The quality of the product is implied by Joe's statements about how great it is on the website, with no user's comment capability.
If you can't trust an objective hobbyist making just a little bit every time you click a link, who can you trust?
If you can't trust an objective hobbyist making just a little bit every time you click a link, who can you trust?
This is just business. If someone advises me to buy something and I discover it's crap, I'll never take that person's buying advice again. But in general, I don't take advice from dudes rocking dookie ropes with PVs hanging off them.
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Right so instead he should buy something from every deal.. try it out and give his recommendation on every product on his site because how else would we be able to trust him? That isn't what the site is about.. we don't ask the same from WOOT or Slick Deals, it's up to the buyer to decide if they like the deal or not.
He isn't recommending products, he is posting up deals. I feel like there is a huge difference and I know for a fact that he often asks some of the same questions we might when he posts things.. wondering if they are good or not.. etc..
He isn't recommending products, he is posting up deals. I feel like there is a huge difference and I know for a fact that he often asks some of the same questions we might when he posts things.. wondering if they are good or not.. etc..
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Would you still talk to them? Still be there friend? Maybe give them a hug? I bet Joe needs a hug..
who can you trust? uhm..how about yourself to be able to make your own decisions? for pete's sake you aren't dating the man!
I think ya'll are reading way too much into a simple deals blog and giving some dude that markets well WAY too much power.
NO....there are more vaping items on fasttech than ever before...not because of the clicks....
do ya'll buy every item you see in the weekly adds from retail stores...if so...i'll be sending you a flyer this week!
i still have never ever seen vaperjoe proclaim to be a consultant or take an advisory role...he posts DEALS
I don't think you understood what I said. I have never seen fasttech in an advertising banner on this site. I am referring to links by users. If you post a link to a product on the fasttech site, this forum automatically adds a shareasale referral. That is not transparent. I have no problem with this site doing it (other than the fact that if I knew that I wouldn't have had to waste all of 30 seconds trying to remove what I thought was an accidental referral link I posted). This site has increased fasttech's ecig sales (which in turn has led to them carrying a wider variety of product) so I have no issues with this site pulling in compensation.
How is Joe's practice equivalent to that? He isn't doing anything with deception as far as I see. He is being even more blatant than ECF because his referrals come from his links, posted by him on his site. ECF is attaching those referrals to links posted by the user who may not even know it is happening. (and again, I still have no problem with the practice, but it should be a little more known for those who might)
BTW, I have visited his site and found no use in it, but more power to him and those who his site does help.
I know. It is kinda like buying bananas that were listed as on sale in the local newspaper advertisement, eating the banana and discovering it isn't ripe enough and then writing a Letter to the Editor of the newspaper.
Fair enough. But as long as his dookie rope holds a PV he will always be my advisor.
heh...i don't know what a dookie rope is....i know dookie as a green day album and poop...
so you won't take advice from him but he will always be your advisor?
Joe tells people this is a good price, he doesn't say this is outstanding quality, if people are selling scrap metal at $40 a tonne then a place selling it at $20 a tonne is a deal regardless of your need for scrap metal.
If the OP wants less FT bargains on VJ's site then he should let VJ know about some places selling the stuff cheaper, let him know about better deals available.
At some point FuManChu Vaping Co. will start undercutting FT and everyone will start complaining about them getting the coverage, I won't, I will be transferring my business to FuManChu Vaping Co.
A deal is a deal, it's up to the suppliers to earn the coverage.
No matter where I buy anything, I first look at reviews by Googling. Then I compare prices. How difficult is that. If you don't see any reviews then ask you fellow ECF vapors..how hard is that?
I do sent him an email yesturday and said instead of those crappy fasttech vivi to put mtbakervapor.com evods, i know he read my email cuz he posted the evods
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Well done, so why do you have an issue with him posting both deals?
Pleas dont misuderstand me,, i dont have anything bad with fasttech or VJ i think this thread is going in the wrong direction, i just whant him to put real good deals and dont promote crappy items, fasttech is full of awesome products and i do buy from them. And i do like VJ blog, thats the reason i whant him to keep going with good stuff and dont become a promotor of crappy thing.
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Have you seen the reviews from Fasttech vivi's same with evod's every buddy have leaking problem and plastic braking by tightened and flooding, just they are so crappy that dont worth even to try them, i only would love to see people buyng good stuff so the vape experience will be good and not frustrating doesnt have to be expensive they are a lot of cheap items that worth, like you see the evods from mtbakervapor at $4 now that is a real deal, vision vivi novas for $5 bucks thats a real deal,
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How does it affect you or your wallet? Are you forced to buy Joe's deals? You don't have a choice? No! So the sense of entitlement to complain about something that in reality purely benefits the end-users at ZERO cost is ridiculous. I don't care if Joe is being paid in gold and Cambodian breast milk by vendors. It's usually a deal you get first from a vendor you would have never known about otherwise. You're not forced to do anything. Here's a no name product from a no name vendor that's being sold at this much through this link with this code. " hey,I was thinking about getting one of those and that's a great price" or "I have no interest" ... Either way I'm out nothing for somebody else doing the leg work of finding or setting up a good deal for me. How can I complain about that? If Joe's links give a vendor a surge of business then why shouldn't he get a cut? As long as I'm not paying for anything I have zero right to complain....
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