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Um.....I have never seen Joe bill himself as a "consumer advocate"?
He's a researcher who finds and aggregates deals and posts them........I dont think he should be expected to be a "babysitter" too.
Chrysler, Ford, P&G, Nabisco, Sears, Walmart (insert name of any company here) all recommend some junk items. The job of the consumer is to figure out what they want to buy during a sale.
404, believe me, what he's doing is not that lucrative, but it also amazes me how some people seem to begrudge him the $ he does make.
Try to find somebody to do that for you, in the corporate world and then see what your monthly "bill" is.
Vapor Joe is not the "face" of the ecig community, and he's no poster boy, this is not a charity. He is simply PROVIDING A SERVICE, and for that, he should get paid. If you don't want the service, then dont' use it.
I love the people who say they use his newsletter but won't click on his links, and instead go directly to the vendor he sited. That doesn't seem at all ethical to me....you are usiing somebody's work and then not letting them get paid for it? So sorry, not "smart"...."unethical."
Lol, we're not talking crackers , and yes he is a poster boy for the vaping community. There are millions of sponsorships the same as what Joes is doing,and many would and could call it unethical, it's all subject able of course and your opinion is just that. It's always about the money for many folks, and then there are the "babysitters" as you call them, that would like to point people in a "better" direction. All in all, he could give up the few "pennies" he makes from the junk sold on fasttech, or the horrid cartomisers from Madvapes. Dont get me wrong, believe his time is worth money, but why promote junk? Yea, I know, everyone else is doing it so it's OK in your eyes. Good luck "babysitting" the noobs on ECF.
Overall the Evods generally get a decent majority in favour, people get the same issues with the Kanger ones. The big VNs generally get a more mixed reaction but there are still those who like them. I like my mini VN
Lets look at the figures of your deal.
1 Evod shipped to a US address is $4.40 from FT and $7.06 from MBV that's about 60% more expensive. For me in the UK, your deal is $11.06 from MBV and still $4.40 from FT, the best deal I can find on 1 Evod delivered to me from the UK is $11.14. That's both around 250% more expensive than FT.
I am perfectly happy for Joe to post ALL deals. If you don't like it then don't give him your clicks and then whine about it.
Those are poster forums that people are able to make comments regarding the products, Joes blog isn't. Bottom line is Joe recommends junk products, and as long as everyone knows what he is all about then were on a level playing field. I'm lucky enough to have money to splash out on gear, but not everybody does. If a so called hobbyist recommends junk for a few bucks, being that there are really good products for just a little more coin, I'd say that's pretty low.
Na ah, Nikki made that lanyard. She wrapped every link in the chain with her tongue.
Personally, I think clearos are junk. All clearos. But many people love them, and good for them. Just because I feel a product is junk doesn't mean it is. If VJ only advertised products that I personally feel are worth buying, I'm sure people would still say "he has too much junk on his site!"
It's up to the person to do research and figure out what products are best for them. VJ posts deals, whether or not you like a product, it doesn't matter. It's still a deal, and you can bet there are plenty of people not only happy to see those deals, but also happy with the product once they get it, whether it needs a bit of tweaking or not.
Very rarely have I seen something on VJ that's just total junk. Everything on there is a great deal for what the product is It's YOUR job as a consumer to figure out what product you want. Vapor joes posts deals, he is not an authority on quality products and shouldn't be viewed in that way.
It's up to the person to do research and figure out what products are best for them. VJ posts deals, whether or not you like a product, it doesn't matter. It's still a deal, and you can bet there are plenty of people not only happy to see those deals, but also happy with the product once they get it, whether it needs a bit of tweaking or not.
Very rarely have I seen something on VJ that's just total junk. Everything on there is a great deal for what the product is It's YOUR job as a consumer to figure out what product you want. Vapor joes posts deals, he is not an authority on quality products and shouldn't be viewed in that way.
Joe doesn't recommend the product, he says its a good price for that product. Whether you want the product or not is immaterial.
I think it's cool that when you click on a link on VJ's site that he gets paid for, "pimped" appears briefly in the url.
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he gets deals.. if fasttech is the deal.. then he will post.. nothing wrong with that... you dont really have to participate.
And others like him. It makes me feel like I'd be out of place at a vape meet without tattoos and piercings.
What I was getting at is that it's Joe's reputation as a reliable advocate that is at risk more than anything. As for his followers, once bitten twice shy. I responded to you because of the conclusions that you came to, your stereotypical old-man diatribe and attempt to silence a civil discussion with the implication that generations other than your own feel entitled without warrant. I'm approaching 40 and have worked since I was 16; haven't lived at home since I was 17. I've consistently worked 60 hour weeks for the last five years; I paid my way through grad school, working a union job while teaching; and have paid taxes enough to support several families. When someone suggests I am "entitled" or leans on other unsubstantiated and thoughtless bromides to shore up his argument, I take offense. When I die I will have worked as hard and as long and have expected as little from life for free as you unless, of course, you're writing from Bangladesh or Guangdong.
Exactly, i dont want you to buy those fasttech evods, they are going to be cheaper but if you get luck you will get a working one, and the quality is a galaxy size diferent. Take a look at the fasttech tread, they are lots of people tha after ordering the evods the day they recived send a message telling me "i wish i follow your suggestions"
If you want to buy junk its up to you, just by saving a few cents.
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How about the FastTech logo? Maybe they would pay me to go places and show it off.
good lord....i still think that ya'll are giving a blog and a dude from jersey WAY too much power...
i have also worked since i was 16 (younger if you count helping out with family friends' businesses)...was on my own at 17....worked three jobs at one time at times and i still know when to click "add to cart" or not.....
I don't care what you want. I make my own choices in life and you don't get to have a say.
I started that FT thread and have read every single post, more people are happy with their Evods than are not, those that are unhappy with a product quality can take advantage of the superior warranty on offer from FT when compared to MBV, for those in the US you even get a US return address.
Again, how much of those tax dollars have gone to following Joe's blog? None! Nothing! Nada! Whether it's orchestrated or stumbled upon Joe's blog just says, " this is a good price for this product" for FREE! It's then your job to decide and research whether it's a good product and a product you want. This is your part of the work. If you're just blindly buying whatever he links then that's on you. Eric Estrada is selling some marsh land you may be interested in for your retirement. I can link you.
To complain about a money saving service that is FREE IS entitlement. Did you grow a vapor Joe goatee? Do you have a gold lanyard? Make your own decisions and doing research shouldn't be a problem for someone as accomplished and hard working as you are. Maybe you could of researched that I'm younger than you....- Status
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