Is it beneficial to replace a coil just because you feel like it?

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Papa_Lazarou

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I've never had a coil that had to be changed out. Gunked up? Sure. Some loss in performance? I suppose, but every coil I've swapped out was because I felt it needed doing. Some were redone after 2 months, others after 2 days - no real rigour to it at all other than my satisfaction with it (which, of course, is subject to whim, amongst other things).

In all honesty, it is the thing I thought I would be most buttoned down about, but ended up being the most capricious with. It's also, at the end of the day, prolly the one thing (other than juice) that we can be the most creative with, so there's both a functional/pragmatic aspect and a "sense of fancy" quality to it.
 

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I don't think I've ever changed a coil because I had to. The only time I ever change them is either because I want to try something different, or because I'm bored. I just recoiled 2 Odins and an RM4 the other day, because I was fooling around with the Coil Master tool I picked up. The coils I took out had probably been in there for months. Whenever I re wick, I dry burn my coils and brush them off with those little Dentek brushes you can find in the toothpaste aisle of the drug store.


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I'm pretty sure a guy on here called 'State o' Flux' has a few ideas on it. The basic premise is that, since kanthal is made from iron, chrome and aluminium (sic) when it heats, you get a layer of aluminium oxide form on the coil, and that is what stops it shorting and makes microcoils work.

Use gradually wears this out, as does dryburning and so on, to the point that a coils suffers hotspots, tastes grim and rusts.

The reason i think there may be some merit to the idea is that coils i have dry burned and faffed about with are never as good as new - and my own opinion is that the time spent cleaning them is wasted, when you can make replacements just as fast.
Naturally - if you make dual parallel Claptons, then that may not be true, but you get the idea.

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I don't think I've ever changed a coil because I had to. The only time I ever change them is either because I want to try something different, or because I'm bored. I just recoiled 2 Odins and an RM4 the other day, because I was fooling around with the Coil Master tool I picked up. The coils I took out had probably been in there for months. Whenever I re wick, I dry burn my coils and brush them off with those little Dentek brushes you can find in the toothpaste aisle of the drug store.


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Those Dentek brushes are awesome. You can use pipe cleaners, too. Just snip off the used end and throw it away. The Dentek brushes are a bit easier, though.
 

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I clean/dry burn/re-wick about every other day, and rebuild about once a week or so. I have a 15X hand lens in my vape box, and after a week, those coils get to looking kind of cruddy...dull, pitted, kind of rusty looking. Basically, if I don't feel like it, I don't rebuild, but if I'm just sitting around watching TV and it's been a while, I rebuild.

It's probably all in my head, but everything is better with a shiny new coil.
 

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Yep, freak show mini. I like it. It's a lil different - the air comes in from those slots and is ducted up to the coil. It vapes excellently. I've only just built it once and will experiment with some different builds. I will have movies on it, the derringer and Rogue this Friday night :)

It hits a lil harder than the Odin, has more air capabilities and is smaller. Do I like it better - jury is still out - but it's been cool trying different attys.

The rogue is badayuss too cause it's virtually leakproof :)

Where can i get one?? How do you convert it to a bottom fed Atty?? Can you post a video on that too on Friday?? :blink:
 

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Once I got my build dialed in, I pretty much build the same coil every time I rebuild +/- a wrap. I rebuild usually once a month and rewick 3 times a month but since I started vaping unflavored base about 90% of the time my coils are lasting a lot longer. I used to just do it as part of my weekly cleaning but honestly, as long as the coil is still kicking when you rebuild it there isn't really a reason to change it.
 

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I actually saw this procedure on a youtube video. It is almost amazing to see the black stuff fall off the coils when dunked. On top of my failing dexterity, my eyes are starting to go further south than I am. Thankfully, there is a Harbor Freight near by.


FuzzyBruce, Today it was time to dry burn. I took your suggestion and rinsed while the coil was hot. I like it. The coils in the Odin came out shiny as if just built.

And your glasses are a true fashion statement, Harbor Freight is fifty miles from me but to have that look, I gotta go. :toast:

Thanks,

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I actually saw this procedure on a youtube video. It is almost amazing to see the black stuff fall off the coils when dunked. On top of my failing dexterity, my eyes are starting to go further south than I am. Thankfully, there is a Harbor Freight near by.


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Kanthal will start to pit when it's still working. ... And since you mentioned 'senior moment' ... ahem. Well. Here's what I remember: I remember the thread was here in the REO sub-forum. I remember the author of the post was someone I think knows what they are talking about to the point of probable actual expertise. I remember it was probably in the last 3-5 months. And, I remember that they said when the kanthal starts to pit is when oxidization is taking place and it can be producing some sort of toxin we should worry about.

So, basing my opinion on some stuff I read here in the forum that I can't recall well enough to find nor link to... I ditch my coils when my aging eyes aided by reading glasses and a 40 lumen focused beam can detect some pitting in the kanthal. At 6 ml per day through an RM3 with two 1.1 ohm coils, that seems to take about 3 weeks or so.

I'm disappointed that nobody has stepped forward with a refresh of the info that he/she provided to us, Six. Seems to me that its well worth knowing.
 

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I'm disappointed that nobody has stepped forward with a refresh of the info that he/she provided to us, Six. Seems to me that its well worth knowing.

My best recollection is it *might* have been pdib who said it. There are only a double handful of folks on ECF I regard as likely to have actual expertise (and I don't use the word "expertise" lightly - I mean folks who have the education and experience to speak with some level of authority) with this that or the other thing but it's just a big enough number of folks that I often can't say for sure who convinced me of this that or the other facts. I seem to recall thinking for some reason pdib knows something about metallurgy.
 

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