Is it hopeless?

[AndriaD]

There's your problem right there. When I first started, over a year ago, there were many um... older video posters who were very good about telling you what you needed to know, without all of the extra fluff and "entertainment." I'm not sure where they all went, but the popular ones now are about 1/3 promotion, 1/3 show, and 1/3 instruction and review. I really like Todd's reviews, he does do a little promoting, and gives his opinions, but he's not putting on a show.

Yeah.. usually I try to stick to Busardo's, his are very helpful and informative with not quite so much foolishness, though he does interject his opinions; not necessarily a bad thing, since he's obviously very experienced and knowledgable about this stuff, but he went on at some length about the rattling vv3 buttons, which rattling just doesn't signify. And the one about dry-burning, from "New Age Smokers", was also extremely helpful with zero foolishness. But the Tripper link was one that someone gave me about cotton wicks, and as little as I care for videos, I try to at least check out the ones that might have some bearing on what I need to know; I'm still very much a newbie but hopefully not a "noob". But I will know, in future, to avoid those Tripper videos; I just don't have time for that.

Andria

 

[Lessifer]

I usually try to look for ECF member vids first, they tend to be more focused. If you're at all interested in micro coils and/or cotton, look for super_X_drifter's vids, well done and to the point.

 

[CountBoredom]

I know, this goes more into how vaping is portrayed by the general media, but referring back to beginners and the lack of knowledge about vaping: one of the more recent news articles that got me incensed was this: http://www.local10.com/news/in-florida-vaping-ecigs-and-hookas-are-not-cool-any-more/25637300. They interviewed a woman who, apparently, has been quitting smoking by vaping for at least a year--but had also shares her vaping experience with her 16-year-old daughter (no mention of if the daughter smokes or not). They were shocked--SHOCKED!--to learn that the FDA was proposing rules because of potential health risks. Leaving the debate about alleged risks aside (try any number of other threads for that), I feel that it people like the woman interviewed who we should really try to reach. Cloud-chasing, sub-ohming, shout-outs--none of those are for me. But if those who are into those things can absorb the sense of impending danger that many of us feel, perhaps they will start sharing that sense with others that they know.

 

[AndriaD]

To be honest, when I first got here and starting learning about vaping, I was quite shocked to learn that all that "official" censure of smokers all these years was nothing but a sham, a way to make scapegoats out of people who enjoy something that smells bad to those who don't enjoy it. Now that a lot of us are finally quitting those horrible deadly things, we see the official censurers' true colors: greedy, venal, dishonest, sociopaths who care NOTHING about the health of US citizens, they just want to keep making easy money off us, and are just incensed that we finally have a way to do something about it. Yes, that did shock me, but it also squares perfectly with my recent eye-opening of the gov't antics with regard to Big Business and Wall St. I'm disgusted with the whole lot of them, and every single one of them needs to have their US citizenship revoked and be dumped unceremoniously somewhere at sea. They're leeches on the national body, and need to be yanked off in the worst way, but they seem to control EVERYTHING, so how can it be done? Frankly I have no idea.

Andria

 

[CountBoredom]

Traditionally, there have been two ways: by becoming part of the system to create change from within or by trying to effect change from the outside. The first way requires strong conviction and lots of luck. The second usually ends in bloodshed. I believe that both the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street movements--whether you agree with their politics or not--were attempts to effect change in a hybrid of the two.

 

[beckdg]

Andria; keep in mind that sociopaths are often highly successful people. a lot of CEOs are sociopaths.

 

[Yankez]

Andria; keep in mind that sociopaths are often highly successful people. a lot of CEOs are sociopaths.

Very true!

Becoming top dog takes a certain amount of ruthlessness. walking around with a paste on smile and a hand shake for everyone is not the way to get to the penthouse

 

[beckdg]

Very true!

Becoming top dog takes a certain amount of ruthlessness. walking around with a paste on smile and a hand shake for everyone is not the way to get to the penthouse

HAHA!

you're right... doing it while screwing everyone in your path to the top, is.

 

[distortoblotto]

There is an old saying; If you can get rich first, You can afford to get honest later.