The Future Of Vaping Is DIY

[Bunnykiller]

if things do go terribly wrong... there are hundreds of ways to set up power supplies to obtain electricity from for driving an atty...
the 5V output of a computer power supply will be quite sufficient but it does limit your mobility
someone will be innovative enuf to create an oil warmer ( probably with different threads tho) that can be substituted for vaping with an easily minor modification ( remove a part or something ) that can be screwed onto a flashlight body which convienently holds an 18650 battery....

too much demand for the products... only real issue I see is the availability of the nic base.... but some interprising group will find a way around that....

 

[Jman8]

We all want to party like it's 1999.

I don't wanna die
I'd rather vape my life away

 

[zoiDman]

Everyday as more and more of the campaign against e-cigarettes are to light, it seems that it's going to be our e-juice that is going to be the first to go. In my opinion, that is going to be the way in which we are attacked. Mods, vaporizers, ect are going to be secondary. Very soon we may be very limited to our options pertaining to e-juice. We will be left with DIY as our only option. How many of you guys (excluding the ones that already DIY) Would still vape if DIY is your only option? What could we do in the future to make it easier for a new vaper to DIY? How many a vaper would still start if that was the only option?

I am Assuming that this is under the Pretext that there will be an Uninterrupted Supply of Easily Obtainable Nicotine Base for people to DIY With.

Or at Least, that Unflavored e-Liquids of 18mg in liquid form will be Available for someone to put Flavoring into.

And that R.J. Reynolds suggestion to the FDA that e-Liquids should Only be Sold in "Closed Systems" will go Unheeded.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Coming from real cigarettes, with nearly destroyed taste buds

Please, stop this nonsense. Cigarettes do not destroy taste buds. I smoked, I know.

 

[rondasherrill]

Please, stop this nonsense. Cigarettes do not destroy taste buds. I smoked, I know.

Coming from someone who has vaped long enough to have my sense of taste back COMPLETELY, apparently you don't. None of us realized how bad off our sense of taste was when we smoked, but just ask around this forum. This isn't something I made up. In fact it's science.

 

[zoiDman]

Please, stop this nonsense. Cigarettes do not destroy taste buds. I smoked, I know.

I'm Not Sure how you can a Make Blanket statement like this based on Just you own Experience?

Especially when this Board if Full of Hundreds of Posts from people saying the Direct Opposite.

 

[Bob Chill]

Cigarettes definitely jacked up my sense of smell and that's a big factor in taste. I get most of my flavor from vapor on the exhale mostly from my nose. It's kind of shocking what the world really smells like after knocking off smoking for a while. This is a good thing and bad thing depending on what you are doing.

 

[zoiDman]

Cigarettes definitely jacked up my sense of smell and that's a big factor in taste. I get most of my flavor from vapor on the exhale mostly from my nose. It's kind of shocking what the world really smells like after knocking off smoking for a while. This is a good thing and bad thing depending on what you are doing.

I hear you.

Shortly After I Switched, I was Shocked when Someone came into my office after having just stepped outside to have a Cigarette.

They Reeked of Smoke.

It Wasn't so Much that I Noticed it on them that Shocked me. It was that when I Smoked, I never Noticed it on Me. And I wondered How Many times Other People had Noticed the Smell when I went into their Office to Talk with them?

 

[AndriaD]

Coming from someone who has vaped long enough to have my sense of taste back COMPLETELY, apparently you don't. None of us realized how bad off our sense of taste was when we smoked, but just ask around this forum. This isn't something I made up. In fact it's science.

I think it affects everyone differently. I had a terrifically keen sense of smell even as a smoker, so keen that it's a burden not only to me, but to everyone around me when I go into one of my 'OMG THAT STINKS!" fits. As a non-smoker, it's even worse; the stuff I thought stank when I was a smoker, now gives me such a headache I nearly pass out. My tastebuds have recovered somewhat, I'm pretty sure, because a lot of things that I liked, as a smoker, now taste even better, but so far, in about 7 months of vaping, I have never suffered the so-called "vaper's tongue" -- I always taste my vape, though it's true that sometimes, one that I enjoy will taste kinda funky to me, so I switch to a different one, and that seems to help. Maybe that's just my own version of "vaper's tongue." So yes I do think that decades of smoking has an effect on tastebuds, but it doesn't kill them; it's really a matter of what you get used to, and tell yourself you enjoy -- when I was phasing cigarettes out and vaping in, gradually cigarettes began to taste foul, because I had something better with which to compare them.

Andria

 

[DebiK]

Andria, I've also always had a keen sense of smell. Now, it's insane! It was almost funny how I could be walking through a parking lot and say "someone is smoking," then try to find them. They could be very far away but I could smell it. My hubby was going to charge the battery on my FILs Winnebago and I told him he needed to find out if there was a propane leak first since I could smell it. We had walked by it numerous times and he didn't smell it until I brought him to where the smell was coming from. I could smell it from a greater distance.

I mostly drink water, so the first time I had a soft drink after I quit smoking, I almost could not deal with the fizz. Felt like it was burning my tongue! Some things now taste better and some worse, now that my sense of taste is better. That's good and bad. lol

 

[brickfollett]

This is EXACTLY why I started DIY. Now would be a great time for us to stock up on nicotine base in the strongest concentration you can find it. I got my 120 ml bottle of 100mg nicotine off wizard labs for something like 35 bucks or so. I've made almost 200 mg of juice and have barely used any of it, mixing at 12 mg/nic. They sell 500 ml bottles too, which would last a very, very long time. You can also put the stuff in your freezer to prolong it's shelf life. I store mine in the fridge.

You can get a gallon of VG for like 35 bucks, and flavoring is like a dollar for little vials, and it doesn't take much.

Prepare for the worst I guess...

 

[DebiK]

I hear you.

Shortly After I Switched, I was Shocked when Someone came into my office after having just stepped outside to have a Cigarette.

They Reeked of Smoke.

It Wasn't so Much that I Noticed it on them that Shocked me. It was that when I Smoked, I never Noticed it on Me. And I wondered How Many times Other People had Noticed the Smell when I went into their Office to Talk with them?

I've always hated when people act like smokers smell sooooo horrible. But now that I don't smoke, I can't stand to smell it. I'm so glad I don't smell like that anymore. I don't treat smokers badly. I do hope that they will find vaping though.

 

[DebiK]

MFS had a great summer sale going with 100mg bottles of nic for $50 a liter. I did get some, but I sure wish I could have really stocked up before the sale ended! Thankfully, I am at 5-6mg now so it doesn't take me much at all for a bottle of e-liquid.

 

[zoiDman]

I've always hated when people act like smokers smell sooooo horrible. But now that I don't smoke, I can't stand to smell it. I'm so glad I don't smell like that anymore. I don't treat smokers badly. I do hope that they will find vaping though.

Yeah... I always thought Non-Smokers were Overreacting with the whole Smell Thing. That is, until I switched to e-Cigarettes.

Kinda the Same Thing with the Taste Buds. People who Quit Smoking Told me that Foods Tasted So Much Better after they Quit. I would just Roll My Eyes and say "Sure". Once Again, it until I switched that I Understood what they were say'n.

I guess it Isn't a Big Surprise though If I thought About it. Because Taste is about 50% Smell.

 

[KiMB00P]

I would definitely keep vaping if I had to make my own juice. But I hope it won't have to be that way.

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

I hear you.

Shortly After I Switched, I was Shocked when Someone came into my office after having just stepped outside to have a Cigarette.

They Reeked of Smoke.

It Wasn't so Much that I Noticed it on them that Shocked me. It was that when I Smoked, I never Noticed it on Me. And I wondered How Many times Other People had Noticed the Smell when I went into their Office to Talk with them?

The first time I noticed the smell was in church. I was appalled at the odor--it was literally like getting punched in the nose.
Even worse was I thought it was me and that I had pulled out an old suit coat out of the closet.
I slowly realized that it was actually someone behind me
For the remainder of mass, I was mortified thinking that that was how I used to smell and spent the rest of the time praying for forgiveness

 

[Nana Gail]

Hi, has anyone ever tried using other than concentrated baking flavors to brew ejuice? I've thought about trying cocentrated lemon and lime juice (I love lemonaid flavors) you can get huge bottles of this at Sams club, and sweeten with liquid splenda or stevia mix this with !00% VG and add nic to preferance in PG base. would this work? Could you use Flavorings like sugar free Koolaid disolved in small amounts of PG or VG or even distilled water to use as a flavored base for your Nic. Sooo many questions I know but thought I'd ask incase anyone has already tried this. If not I might just step out there and become a lab rat for my own DIY juice. If it does work it would at least give us an alternative for a flavor ban., I'm sure the FDA can't ban this stuff can they!

 

[Bob Chill]

Hi, has anyone ever tried using other than concentrated baking flavors to brew ejuice? I've thought about trying cocentrated lemon and lime juice (I love lemonaid flavors) you can get huge bottles of this at Sams club, and sweeten with liquid splenda or stevia mix this with !00% VG and add nic to preferance in PG base. would this work? Could you use Flavorings like sugar free Koolaid disolved in small amounts of PG or VG or even distilled water to use as a flavored base for your Nic. Sooo many questions I know but thought I'd ask incase anyone has already tried this. If not I might just step out there and become a lab rat for my own DIY juice. If it does work it would at least give us an alternative for a flavor ban., I'm sure the FDA can't ban this stuff can they!

Go to the DIY forum and read all the stickies. Experimenting with off the shelf flavors is a bad idea. Things like kool aid is a cocktail of things you don't want to be inhaling. It's easy to mix what you want using the concentrates already out there and they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

You can extract teas and tobaccos no problem but there are important steps to follow there as well. All is well documented in the forum.

 

[Bob Chill]

If anyone is considering stocking there is easy math to use to figure out how much base to buy. I prefer 100mg strength because it takes up less space and is easy to mix. However, a strict safety protocol must be used when mixing and storing it. Read the stickies in the DIY forum and the blogs by Hoosier and Danny before even considering ordering that strength.

I vape mostly 12mg/ml but that has dropped lately but here's the simple math based on my base and consumption @ 3mls a day of juice:

.12mls of 100mg base per 1ml of liquid * 3mls per day = .36mls of base per day.

How long will a liter of 100mg/ml last me? 1000mls of base / .36mls per day = 2,777 days or 7.6 years.

Will a liter last 7.6 years if properly stored? I have little doubt it will no problem with the only caveat being reduced strength over time and some oxidation causing a yellowing of the base (harmless). They sell cheap testing kits so I can test bottles as I break them out over the years to track degradation and adjust my recipes as necessary.

You can do simple math for any strength base and figure out how long of an insurance policy you want to buy.

 

[zoiDman]

I would Also throw out that if Someone is considering doing Long Term Storage of Nicotine Base (which I think People Should), that they should store the Nicotine Base in Glass Bottle and Poly-Caps.