Is it really "Quitting" and what "benefits" do we get

[UntamedRose]

Have seen several folks refer to their vaping habits as Quitting smoking, I'm assuming they arnt all using the 0mg Nicotine. (or is that exactly what they mean)
Is it Really quitting other wise?
I've never heard previous smokers who now dip or use snus, refer to it as quitting.

Also...
Obviously, Not getting those 4,000 some odd chemicals in Cig's...will have health benefits.
Pretty easy to find long, long lists of benefits...From Not smoking or using tobacco at ALL.
With vaping we are still getting the nicotine, which in itself is a poison and can kill you if you use to much(heck works as a great natural insecticide) So we cant be getting ALL those health benefits.
What I'm trying to ask is...

What health benefits will we NOT be getting if we vape with nicotine VS total 100% quitting.


(Just because he's cute )

 

[Col. Gaunt]

The first step is quitting smoking, the second step is weaning yourself off the nicotine, it is a 2 part deal.

 

[reeds101]

I have quit smoking because I'm not burning tobacco and inhaling smoke. The people who switch to dip also quit smoking, but are still using tobacco. I don't know the health benefits I might see if I didn't vape, but I know I am a lot better off than I was when I did smoke. I hope I made sense.

 

[reeds101]

Have seen several folks refer to their vaping habits as Quitting smoking, I'm assuming they arnt all using the 0mg Nicotine. (or is that exactly what they mean)I am not smoking because I am not burning tobacco and "smoking" it.
Is it Really quitting other wise? A better word would be quitting tobacco, but yes it really is quitting.
I've never heard previous smokers who now dip or use snus, refer to it as quitting. People who now dip have quite smoking, but they are still using tobacco.

Also...
Obviously, Not getting those 4,000 some odd chemicals in Cig's...will have health benefits.
Pretty easy to find long, long lists of benefits...From Not smoking or using tobacco at ALL.
With vaping we are still getting the nicotine, which in itself is a poison and can kill you if you use to much(heck works as a great natural insecticide) So we cant be getting ALL those health benefits.
What I'm trying to ask is...

What health benefits will we NOT be getting if we vape with nicotine VS total 100% quitting. I know that nicotine can harden your arteries, but other than that I don't know what long term health benefits could be seen if I didn't vape, and I really don't care at this time. I am just glad that I got off of smoking tobacco and all of it's toxins.

(Just because he's cute )

I hope I made sense to you.

 

[reeds101]

There was a computer glitch when I made my first post, so I redid it with quotes and now I have two very similar posts. I guess I'm just trying to beat it into your head! lol

 

[Rosa]

I think "quitting" for me means stopping the habit that was killing me in favor of one that wasn't. I quit the 4000 other chemicals in analog cigarettes, not the nicotine.
Some people give up caffeine without giving up coffee, right? Why can't I "quit" smoking without giving up nicotine?

 

[scheherezade]

I used to think it wasn't quitting myself. It wasn't until I started noticing that I was breathing better (now off asthma meds), felt better, had more energy etc. that I started thinking of it as quitting because it was so different from smoking. And this has all been over the course of a month. Yes, nicotine is not good for you, constricts your vessels which is not a great thing, but its actually one of the more benign chemicals in cigarettes. Yes, the best thing is to quit completely which a lot of people actually do, working there way down to 0 nicotine. We also don't know what the PG and VG over the long term, in the quanities we take in will do. There is no comperable study for that part.

Saying that we're still smokers is kind of like saying that someone that dips snuff is a smoker. Not really the case.

The nicotine is the only commonality. If you're uncomfortable calling it quitting you can always say you switched to PV's, vaping, e-cigs, whatever you're comfortable with. One caution though, while e-cig sounds good to someone who's thinking of switching because its a more familiar term, describing the benefits to a non-smoker using e-cig tends to put them off. They too associate it with cigarettes because of the terminology. Basically just semantics. Use whatever term you're comfortable with. Your improvements when you're not smoking analogs tend to speak for themselve to anyone who's really listening.

 

[CES]

Smoking and nicotine use can be very different things. Most of the studies that I'm aware that look at nicotine in humans are confounded by nicotine intake via smoking.

Nicotine activates the dopamine pathway/nucleus accumbens, which is the brain pathway related to addiction (and to pleasure from food and sex) as well as other pathways related to learning and memory. It also interacts with the brain pathways that are activated by alcohol, reducing it's effects. In some cases nicotine can be neuroprotective. PM me you want the references- i have lots

There are clinical medications used in the treatment of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and even Glaucoma that result in increased activation of the receptors that nicotine binds to.

By vaping with nicotine, we're banking on the idea that the potential for harm is less than that from smoking, and that nicotine by itself is not as harmful, or even better not particularly harmful at all. Thus, the comparisons to caffeine that people make.

It's possible that someone who uses nicotine (without the associated smoke from burning it) might have better concentration, a better memory and some protection against some diseases. Maybe.

 

[StormFinch]

I tried to quit smoking several times using NRTs, patch, gum... each and every time I was a nervous wreck.

I quit once, for seven months, cold turkey with Allen Carr's Easy Way book. Although the quitting itself was easy enough, (no pun intended) just the smell of analog smoke was like a siren song. I could tell someone was smoking in a car that was passing mine in the opposite direction doing 35 miles an hour. No matter how hard I tried I still wanted one, and even though I LIKED waking up without sore, congested lungs, I still felt better when smoking due to an autoimmune disease that caused my thyroid to crash after I got rid of the nicotine. Needless to say, I started again.

Currently, I am getting all the benefits of not smoking tobacco without the mental and physical hell I have gone though before. I can breath again, I'm clearing nasty junk from my head and chest, from what I can observe my thyroid function has only dropped slightly, and I'm not obsessed with everyone else's cigarette smoke. Over 443,000 people die each year from smoking cigarettes. Since I've started vaping I have heard everything from nicotine is no more dangerous than caffeine unless you decide to drink it, to nicotine itself also causes cancer. Yeah, well, and driving causes accidents.

Even though vaping is still new and somewhat of an unknown, I'll take my chances with the unknown any day. At least maybe I won't be walking around in ten years pulling a canister of oxygen behind me. So yeah, I quit smoking, or maybe I should say; I only smoke if I'm on fire now.