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is it safe to vape while charging?

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  1. anthra_X

    anthra_X New Member

    Jan 1, 2018
    im not new to vaping, ive used everything from the hells gate to segilie 150w. but im just curious, is it safe to use a smock v8 stick while its charging? ive heard yes and no, so im just confused.
     
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  2. Hawise

    Hawise Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2013
    AB, Canada
    Define safe.;)

    It's unlikely that anything will blow up. On the other hand, it really isn't good for the battery, which is why most manufacturers say something like "Our product is capable of pass-through charging, but you shouldn't use this feature."

    Vaping tends to take more current than the charger supplies so the current for your vape comes from the battery, not the charger. That means the battery is charging for a few minutes, discharging for 3 seconds, charging for 90 s, discharging for 4 s, charging for whatever... It's not a safe or healthy process for the battery. If there's anything wrong with the battery, this stressful process could trigger a serious problem. Of course, it's not likely that anything is wrong with the battery.

    Short version: It will usually shorten the battery's life, but not in an exciting way.
     
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  3. suprtrkr

    suprtrkr ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I tend to agree with @Hawise It's probably not good, but it also probably isn't going to blow up. I will add questions like this are part of the reason I don't use fixed battery mods.
     
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  4. Obi Wan Vapori

    Obi Wan Vapori Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 4, 2013
    Saco,ME,USA
    Read a post a long time ago that pass-through use is not a good idea. Something about it causes the plus and negative ends of the battery to heat up out of proportion with the middle of the battery causing a unstable state. Same was said about grabbing freshly charged batteries out of the charger and using them. You need the give the battery time to reach oneness with the chemical/temperature Zen after recharging. Perhaps Mooch or someone with more battery knowledge than me can shed some more light on the subject.
     
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  5. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    If you have more than one device there really isn't a good reason to use pass through charging. Maybe if you are out and about longer than expected would be the only reason I could think of.
     
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  6. sofarsogood

    sofarsogood Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 12, 2014
    Batteries get warmer when they are charging and when they are discharging. Slower charging and discharging mean less heat. I vape at higher resistance and lower power compared too what's fashionable which helps minimize battery temperatures (1.3 ohm, 380F max temp, and 16-20 max watts). If the fire button is pressed while my devices are charging my understanding is the recharging process is stopped until the fire button is released but the battery will get warmer than if you do only one or the other. Never the less I almost always charge on-board, don't hesitate to use a mod that's cconnected to a charging cable and never see the battery go past slightly warm.

    If I was vaping at very high watts, near or past the rated amp limit of the battery, may be I'd only reccharge in an exterenal charger inside of a 55 gallon drum in the backyard. Pushing the limits complicates things.
     
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  7. OlderNDirt

    OlderNDirt Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 8, 2014
    Nebraska
    Welcome @anthra_X !

    Since a Stick V8 kit can be had for $30-$35, a simple solution would be to pick up a second one. Backups are always a good idea and a second tank is great for changing flavors on the fly!

    Better yet, if you are like me (I can suck down the charge on the stick faster then the other can charge :w00t:), look into a mod with external batteries you can just swap out when needed. More up front cost now, but benefits quickly "pay you back!"
     
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  8. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I have heard "yes" and "no" but I don't like to vape personally via passthrough, even if a manufacturer states that you can. Like others, I agree it will likely put stress on the battery over time, if done consistently. I'd say you could probably do it in a pinch without any kind of explosion, but it's a habit I don't need, since I have some mod backups. I have a few "USB" charge batteries, a couple I really like, and I do find them useful on occasion. I also will only use a wall wart for charging as if something goes wrong, I don't want it affecting my computer. I also ordered a magnetic charger to cut down on wear and tear on my USB mods (and my phone, which is elderly, and starting to show wear and tear on the USB port.

    So, it's not exactly "unsafe" it's just best practice. If you really like your smok stick there is little reason not to get a backup and swap them out, and it is probably good for your battery to "rest" some between charges.

    If you want to go external battery especially if you like a higher wattage vape, looking at external battery mods is certainly not a bad idea either. :)

    Anna
     
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  9. gandymarsh

    gandymarsh Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 11, 2014
    WI, USA
    Vaping while charging also puts a lot of stress on the charging port from the cable moving around. Those aren't very sturdy and, if they break, you won't be able to charge it at all.
     
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  10. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Welcome and glad you joined.
    Good question, Smok has not defined the pass through parameters.
    Would contact Smok and ask:
    SMOK --->SMOKTech
    email: support@smoktech.com
    ECF Smok dealer: VapeSourcing
    https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/members/verashu.262193/#profile-post-71627
     
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