Is it worth the money to get the new version of the Provari?
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I see that you haven't read my blog yet: WHY PROVARI?
"The default Provari comes in a satin silver finish for $159. Colors are optional in carokote finishes for an additional $25. This is a durable finish that many firearms use. People may ask why Provape charges more for the colored models. Provape doesn't paint them in house, but outsources them to an outside company. This costs Provape $25, so they only charge this amount to those customers who desire a colored Provari.
The default color for the LED display is red, with blue and green LED colors offered for $15 additional. The supplier charges Provape $15 more for the blue or green LED, so Provape only charges this additional amount to those customers who desire one of these LED colors.
People sometimes wonder why Provape charges additional for the battery extension cap. Other manufacturers charge the same amount for battery extensions. For example, AltSmoke charges $25 for their Kick extension sleeve for the Silver Bullet.
So instead of raising the overall price of a Provari across the board, Provape charges extra only for the above options to those customers who desire them. This keeps the basic Provari cost to a minimum for those on a budget."
Please remember that ProVape is a small production company. I doubt that they have more than 20 employes in total currently. Raw materials, electronics, heavy machinery, research and development costs, employee wages and benefits, and the everyday costs of running a manufacturing company all add up. It helps that they manufacture and assemble their products in house, and I have no idea how much profit they make on their products, but my guess is that they are not "cleaning up" financially.
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I have two Sigelei's V3's a ZMAX Mini and a Provari, I like both. The Sigelei's are IMO, fine APV's. Mine have worked flawlessly, better than I expected. They are gorgeous looking, always getting more attention than the other APV's I own. At their price point, they are a real good deal. The Provari is a top quality, high end APV. The build quality, attention to detail, and overall performance of the device is indeed top notch. If your happy with what you have, don't bother. If you have the extra cash, get a Provari.
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What machine shop?? Just wondering how much of my stuff you turned during those 20 years
If you're vaping a nuclear fuel rod, I may have done that one.
I bought the same Sigelei V3 from a local online store just a month or so ago. It's exactly the same, even the color, finish, everything. I didn't even read any review about it. I just grabbed something I could afford for use as resistance reader in my rebuilding venture. I liked the smooth feel of it. So far so good.
I liked it so much that I ordered another VV, a Vamo, just in case this one breaks. It will be in the mail next week, I think... I'm seeing improvements, so I don't think a different brand will make any difference. The confidence to buy these products is sinking in. (I mostly use my mech mods because they're more portable and to make the VV last longer. (Still waiting for the Hammer and 2 Pipe style telescopes, though.)
$15 is how much their supplier charges them. They pass that cost on to the purchaser, no more, no less. They make nothing on a different LED color.
That's how much they are grossing, not how much they're netting after the cost of goods and overhead. I have a friend with a bakery that brings in lots of money, but after she pays all of her overhead and employees she still struggles.
The fact that they're made in the USA was actually really important to me. I try to buy American when I can. It's not always possible, and I do my share of slow-boating, but I do like the fact that it's made here and it was a factor in the purchasing decision.
As to the person who said they're a status symbol - I only know two other people who are serious vapers and both recommended the Provari to me. I didn't want to spend that much money, but my boyfriend pointed out that knowing me I will go through a bunch of devices trying to find the best one, and wind up spending more than I would on the Provari. Then he wound up buying it for me. Two nights ago I bought him one. I have absolutely no regrets, I love it already; the hand-feel, the fact that it's fairly idiot proof (because I am often an idiot), the fact that it's so solid and feels indestructible. I got the polished, btw. We bought them from our local vape shop who will handle the entire warranty process if anything goes wrong, and will provide a loaner until ours come back. It had nothing to do with status (who's going to care?) and everything to do with quality and service.
Now I have one more used black one on the way from eBay as a backup. The more I use it, the more I like it, and at this point I have no desire to buy anything else. Just like if I had to replace my car I'd buy another Subaru.
I think this point is worth repeating. For new people, it should be more about vaping, not the mechanics and gear. Most people get into vaping while trying to quit analog. During that phase, the focus should be on flavors and vapor. APV should just "work" with minimal distraction. Mechanical issues can hampers the vaping experience and increase the chance of people going back to analog.
To me, ProVari gives me enough satisfaction on APV that I don't look for another devices and just focus on finding best juice. This saves me time and money. And most importantly, the consistency allows me to stay off the analog.
I tried vaping several years ago with blu and failed. Went back to analog. After two kids, I decided to give it another try. Thanks to ECF, I learned that ProVari was dependable device and bought it as my first real APV and I was done. During first weeks of quitting analog, I was holding on to my ProVari like a life line and it was a great comfort to know it will simply work whenever I needed it. I have been analog free since I start vaping and can say that dependable devices are critical when you are trying to quit.
Seeing my success, my brother started to vape but bought MVP based on the recommendation of local shop owner. It was a reasonable recommendation for new vaper. However, after about a month, he ended up getting ProVari as well.
If you're vaping a nuclear fuel rod, I may have done that one.
BTW there's a vape meet in O town tomorrow
https://www.facebook.com/#!/events/580341232040372/?ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming
5 to 9, 315 24th St, The Century Club
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It's not about safety in this case. The mod won't tighten down far enough to use an 18350 without a fuse. I think everyone but FastTech sells them with the fuse included. Any standard 2 cent type fuse will work.
For those saying that ProVape is making a ton of money on the Provari- I remember reading recently that Ken or someone else at ProVape said they actually lose money when they do a 10% off sale. They operate on fairly slim margins.
They also sold about 400 ProVari's on Black Friday, so I would guess that they sell between fifty and a hundred per week during the rest of the year. That's just a guess, folks, not gospel truth.
I've heard a lot about the provari, but I don't see the appeal. I guess it's one of those "just wait til you try it" things. Right now I'm happy with mech mods, but stepping up to a DNA30 is on my list. Until then, there are lots of juices to try and attys to rebuild.
The way I weigh things out is:
1. Do I need it?
2. Do I really need it?
3. What else could I get for the same price?
There's always something new coming out. You could either put money away or use a bit now and try a new atty or juice.
Plus, there's always perfecting what you already have.
I thought I had a good setup for my RDA, but I really took the time to sit down and get everything perfect and it paid off. Sometimes it's best to hold off for a bit and work with what you've got. Your wallet will thank you for it
Ditto..Ditto>>>nahhhh. sit back and wait and enjoy what you already like!
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