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In my short time of vaping I have had 2 mini lava tubes and a Vamo...... ($180) die....
My Provari (8 months old) on the other hand just keeps going...
I normally carry 3 APVs with me daily currently that is a Siegeli #20, an innokin SVD and my ProVari.
The SVD is starting to show signs of wear and tear (buttons getting sloppy) after 2 months.
Bottom line is you get what you pay for.
My Provari (8 months old) on the other hand just keeps going...
I normally carry 3 APVs with me daily currently that is a Siegeli #20, an innokin SVD and my ProVari.
The SVD is starting to show signs of wear and tear (buttons getting sloppy) after 2 months.
Bottom line is you get what you pay for.
I have both and like them both just fine BUT...the ProVari is head and shoulders about anything else I have, including an eVic and Vamo. If I ever buy another one it'll be another Provari. They remind me of a fine watch
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They likely do!I find Baditude using clearos most disturbing.
Don't your tanks get jealous?
Allow me to explain... I do try new things that I feel are worth trying from time to time. Never was a fan of the earlier clearomizers. I never purchased a Vivi Nova simply because they used polycarbonate plastic. I tried Smoktech's Vivi Nova clone (the Smok Titan tank) that had a polypropylene tube - was not impressed (no flavor).
Not long ago I gave my daughter her first mod, an Altsmoke BB, and thought a cartotank might be a little too difficult for her, so I purchased a Vision Vivi Nova for her and a couple of ProTanks for me to try. I was more impressed with the ProTanks. They provided the cooler vape that I prefer and decent flavor production (although not generally up to par to a cartotank). The ProTanks went to my daughter, too, eventually. I plan on getting a couple more for myself, just because they are so easy to use and fill, especially when away from home.
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I own both the Zmax and now the Provari. I love the Siegeli but the button is already acting up and not firing all the time. Also the s/w acts up and I get no display randomly and must remove the battery to reboot. The device is less than 2 moths old. The Provari has been rock solid, smooth vape. Also the Zmax did not hold the voltage as the battery drained and I suspected that when used in power mode where isn't needed to detect the atty resistance, it varied when I switched tanks although the setting remained unchanged. The Provari is constant all the time. Still I think the Zmax is a great mod for the money, but if you are even considering the Provari the spend extra money and go right to the Provari now. The longevity and support for it will make you that money back over time.
@ Vwls. I'll agree totally with my buddy Ocelot. I've never seen a poll, but my thoughts are that those who have used both and been successful with cartotanks, the majority of cartotank owners would be rather adament that cartotanks overall give better flavor. The ProTank is the only clearomizer that I've tried that comes close.The Ocelot said:
I suspect that those who prefer a string wicked device over a cartomizer never really got past the learning curve involved with a cartotank.
I have an unproven theory why a cartotank provides better flavor. Think about the construction differences and wicking material used between a carto and a string wick device. Flavor is obviously carried in the juice to the heating coil by wick material, right? A cartomizer's wick material is the polyfill that totally surrounds the heating coil. The surface area is tenfold what a simple string wick has. It stands to reason that since a cartomizer has so much more wicking material, it should be able to produce more flavor.
I much prefer using a cartotank, mainly because of the better flavor; and because of my experience level they are quite consistant and dependable. I've been impressed with the flavor of the bottom fed/bottom coiled ProTank; not quite as flavorful or dependable as a cartotank but very close. For ease of use and filling, its hard to beat a clearomizer, especially if you are refilling one out away from home. So there's something to be said for both.
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Yes, the Protank is 510, but the evod and T3s are ego threading. Sorry for confusion.
Edit: I vape all day long on my Provari and carto tank with Boges. The Cartos are vastly superior in flavor and you can taste the differences in the juice amazingly well. When I got my wife to start using cartos, I had to adjust her juice because the muted juice she was used to and liked wasn't quite enough sweet enough for her on the carto. This is all subjective, of course, but I swear I can taste a big difference and it's good to the last drop.
Regarding the whole Provari question, if you're going to use cartos, the Provari is the only choice, imho. But, if you were like me when I first started vaping, changing heads and juices every five minutes, I found the flexibility of my ego/510 threads and variable power to be a big plus. I just don't vape that way much any more. I got an SVD in today. Slapped the carto tank on it, and, again, I swear, my juice does taste better on the Provari. Of course, I'm talking mostly about at home vaping. When I go out, I can't see using anything other than my evods on my iTaste 3.0's, or even my Sigelei V3/5's in 18350 mode. YMMV. You won't be anything but happy with the Provari, but how will you know if you have nothing to compare it to?
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I went the route of upgrading my way to a Provari, my vamo died pretty quick, I was given a Sig Z max as a loaner till I bought a new device. I will say this, the Max did a great job in convincing me to get a Provari. If your just kicking cigs, reliability and simplicity are important. You don't want to be fooling with stuff or beating your head against the wall because stuff just isn't working. I think VW is kind of over sold as being set it and forget it. You will play with the VW settings as much as you will with VV. To me, being able to access the menu was more important. The Provari menu is very user friendly and simple to operate. As you find your self starting to favor a particular juice and vape device, you will play with the settings less and less. Something that I don't see mentioned much. Zmax, Vamo,etc do variable power differently then a provari does. I can't honestly say I can taste a difference, some people say that the Provari tastes cleaner. I dunno, what I have noticed is that coils last a lot longer on my Provari then they did on the Max. I think the way the Provari powers the coil is gentler maybe? Anyways, it was frustrating to change popped coils on my protanks all the time. Take a look at the mini's too, you still get a lot of run time from an 18350 in a tiny form factor. You can always buy after market rings later on that allow you to use larger batteries, they all work with the standerd cap as well, no need for the extended cap.
Considering the title of the thread, relevance comes to mind.
Heavyrocker said:
The Vamo owners are getting as arrogant as they said Provari owners are.
Whatever floats your boat, Rocker. Vape hard.
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Iv got two dead Vamos now. 1 that died on me and one a friend gave me to "fix".....riiiiiiight. Anyways, I'm trying to figure out how to connect the two together and make a set of Vamo Chucks! Something like two Ego adapters linked by a chain or something.
I do prefer carto tanks to protanks. But, when the protank is working at its' best, to me, it has better flavor. The issue I had is that the protank was very inconsistent. I was dealing with burnt or metallic tastes more than I wanted to. I find the flavor from a carto tank to be a bit muted in comparison, but it is very consistent. And I'm a big fan of consistency.
The Vamo owners are getting as arrogant as they said Provari owners are.
Whatever floats your boat, Rocker. Vape hard.
I actually dont use my Vamo anymore,it still works great,too busy with the Natural/RSST,SS Cable.i just use it too check ohms and batts.
I prefer the taste of carto tanks too, but I have been seduced by the Protank's ease of use. I discovered something interesting: my ADV, which is often my Only Day Vape, tastes good in both a carto tank and a Protank, but the flavor is just different enough to seem like two distinct juices; I taste cinnamon more in cartos and menthol/minty more in the Protank. I was so fascinated I vaped them back and forth until I got nic sick. oops.
Same here, when the Protank was on.....It was ON! But consistency killed it. In the end I was rebuilding heads for it and it just ended up being too much of a hassle. A carto properly set up is also an awesome thing. I followed Baditudes carto tutorial and had great success. Iv moved on to silica RBAs but I always have a filled IB tank with a IKV cart on standby. I prefer it over my RBAs with really strong juices like Ecto cooler flavors. For consistency, Flavor and ease of use it's hard to beat a good carto set up.
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