The only others I found so far make mechs. Any others making regulated mods besides zen and provape ?
Is Provape in danger of becoming like Blackberry?
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The only others I found so far make mechs. Any others making regulated mods besides zen and provape ?
Nope but I know about Paul Barton who uses Brystons labs for testingseriously, Blackberry? ... not even close ... there is another company, located not very far from where Research in Motion developed the Blackberry here in Ontario Canada.
This company reminds me of Provape alot, as in their awesome products and unmatched Industry customer service ... just a different product ... these guys make the world's best music sound unbelievable
Bryston Limited: Music for a Generation
Provape's quality and customer service is on par with Bryston's.
Anybody know of the awesomeness of Bryston here on ECF? ... that's where Provari is heading, they are still young ... Bryston is 35 years old.
Yet another snarky personal attack...how about trying to bring something constructive instead of being so quick with the insults?
seriously, Blackberry? ... not even close ... there is another company, located not very far from where Research in Motion developed the Blackberry here in Ontario Canada.
This company reminds me of Provape alot, as in their awesome products and unmatched Industry customer service ... just a different product ... these guys make the world's best music sound unbelievable
Bryston Limited: Music for a Generation
Provape's quality and customer service is on par with Bryston's.
Anybody know of the awesomeness of Bryston here on ECF? ... that's where Provari is heading, they are still young ... Bryston is 35 years old.
Bryston make kiiiiiller stuff. Excellent CS as well. I also like Totem speakers for a lot of the same reasons.
The only issue I might have with this analogy, tho, is that Bryston isn't really for the audio mainstream whereas Provape claims to be for vaping. I think it's that claim (and possibly conservative feature improvements) juxtaposed with what we think will be a high (aficionado) price point that's got some peeps riled.
Myself, I think provape makes a fine, fine product and I'm sure the P3 will be quality. Not for everyone, but quality.
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I understand you're overly-sensitive about this particular battery tube. however, you don't need to snipe at everyone that isn't an cheerleader for the company.
fwiw, constructive criticism will do them more good than the fans here saying "Do whatever you want, we'll buy it!"
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stevegmu said:
I understand you're overly-sensitive about this particular battery tube. however, you don't need to snipe at everyone that isn't an cheerleader for the company.
fwiw, constructive criticism will do them more good than the fans here saying "Do whatever you want, we'll buy it!"
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don't forget the Nobel Laureates!
but seriously, it's a battery tube that delivers power to a 510 connection--that's it.
look at the 'factory tour' videos that Phil Busardo did. they finish metal tubes, unsolder two wires from a chip and then QC them before shipping--that's it.
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stevegmu said:Yes, that is correct. ProVape is saying the rocket scientists and engineers on staff are incapable of creating a device which is safe past 20 watts...
DOn't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that. Why do those who would never buy a ProVari- for a number of reasons, care?
don't forget the Nobel Laureates!
but seriously, it's a battery tube that delivers power to a 510 connection--that's it.
look at the 'factory tour' videos that Phil Busardo did. they finish metal tubes, unsolder two wires from a chip and then QC them before shipping--that's it.
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If that's all you think is involved after watching the videos, I feel sorry for your perception... Clearly, the ProVari is not for you, or your budget.
Some of us actually budget the same amount we spent on tobacco per month for vape-gear.
I've been budgeting the same $255.00 a month for almost 4 years now, and have no issue with a $250.00 price tag.. The quality, warranty, and fast, after-warranty repair service for a reasonable cost supports the price IMO. I've spent as much or more on single mods or rebuildables quite a few times over the years, and have been happy with my purchases.
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They have former aerospace and rocket engineers on staff...
You obviously don't get it...
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I posted this in another P3 thread, one of which many of you are part of, but I'm dragging it here too. This horse is glue by now, but I'm saying it anyway, as worthless as it may be. I do it because I want to. Nothing more.
It's almost verbatim, so if you read it over there, you won't find anything new & exciting.
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"...I literally wrack my brain trying to figure out why people who DON'T want something, come into any thread to discuss that very something. It's a phenomenon that I'll simply never understand.
Don't take this personally, people who vape stuff I don't want, but I really don't care enough about your stuff to even click myself into your threads, much less take up time discussing your stuff.
So, if y'all get a kick out doing that, well, have fun now (y'hear?).
Funny, FUNNY $h!+."
It's almost verbatim, so if you read it over there, you won't find anything new & exciting.
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"...I literally wrack my brain trying to figure out why people who DON'T want something, come into any thread to discuss that very something. It's a phenomenon that I'll simply never understand.
Don't take this personally, people who vape stuff I don't want, but I really don't care enough about your stuff to even click myself into your threads, much less take up time discussing your stuff.
So, if y'all get a kick out doing that, well, have fun now (y'hear?).
Funny, FUNNY $h!+."
Let em keep everything they get...couldn't care less...it's not for me to say what they should do with the gear once they get done reviewing it...it also isn't the determining factor in and of itself as to whether or not they are a credible reviewer...especially if their reviewing history is obviously subjective and varied regardless of what they have reviewed in the past...
I see Busardo reviewing some very expensive, hi-end gear....and he will readily criticize and even trash the gear if he finds issues while using and testing it...and he does find issues frequently and he does criticize the gear, sometimes harshly...that is where I as a consumer, watching his reviews, determines his credibility as an honest reviewer...yet, these same companies continue to send him gear to review even though he gave them less than sparkling reviews in the past....as a matter of fact, with his thorough reviews, he is likely helping them to identify flaws that they can address in future versions...if a reviewer is never subjectively criticizing the gear, and its always a wonderful device, juice, etc., that reviewer doesn't rank very high on my list of trusted reviewers and their motives becomes suspect...
Keeping the gear?...just doesn't matter to me what they do with it...especially if they review honestly and have earned their street cred....
The cream rises to the top and the freebie hunting shills doing reviews are quickly ignored...
Protovapor.com
There is a thread for it with some pics and what owners think. Myself included. Are they going to be around for the long run? Time will tell but from what I see they're doing things right and make a good quality PV.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/479588-protovapor-xpv.html
Here's a thought as to why the P3 has a 20 watt limit: To accommodate silly little 18350 batteries. There isn't an 18350 made that's safe at 30 watts. Even the best 18490s are marginal at 30 watts. And the Provari fan base would be upset if they HAD to use nothing but 18650s..
Ah, got it. Hana is still making, I believe. And I'm not sure where those Tatroe ones are from (Cigtechs).
Wouldn't you consider DNA regulated, or no? At least upwardly, but it's still regulation.
I think.
As a user of three Innokin mods and several clearomisers I do feel that's a rather sweeping statement about their products, and the comment about China made crap is ridiculous. You do know where iPhones are made, yes?
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