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Is Provape in danger of becoming like Blackberry?

Discussion in 'VV/VW APV Discussion' started by artbyshan, Aug 19, 2014.

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  1. Qween

    Qween Full Member

    Nov 2, 2014
  2. AstroTurf

    AstroTurf Happy to be... Not Smoking!!! Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Truth

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  3. Katdarling

    Katdarling Is this a mask, or underwear... Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 25, 2011
    Utopia

    USMC.... shaking my head. Hon, why do you continue to bang your head against the wall here? You have the ability to unsubscribe to the thread, ignore users, or hit the triangle.



    It has, Rick. There's been plenty of honesty. Honest. DPL said it best, as is usually the case:






    You've posted a lot, HB, but this may be my fave. ^^^ Thank you.

    However, it's doubtful that anyone will leave their emoticals at the door. What fun would THAT be anyway? ;)



    As long as Springy keeps cute golfer guy avis going, I'm IN!
     
  4. USMCotaku

    USMCotaku ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2014
    California

    The reason I bang my head here so much is simple, I'm a Scorpio :p. But really though, I'm generally very easy going, but wrong me.....i will dig my heals in. I wasn't on the side of the provari haters, ever. I merely expressed my desire for one change. Since then I've been attacked, my choices in vape gear has been attacked, my posts have been quoted out of context to try and put what I've said in a negative light, been the subject of many mean spirited sarcastic comments (even if they were often poorly executed, the intent was the same). I've been told I don't know quality based on what I've chosen to spend my money on....ironic since provari quality is one of the reasons I have stated for wanting them to make a mod that suits me.
    The simple answer to your question...i made an observation about one of provape's decisions that some deemed as negative and the torched and pitchforks came out, and I am incapable of accepting that kind of treatment without standing up for myself, and for others when I see them being treated in such a manner. You don't become a Marine without a fighting spirit
     
  5. DavidOH

    DavidOH Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Ohio
  6. RickCain

    RickCain Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 14, 2013
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Not really other than side stepping my last question - exactly what I expected :)

    What I've learned is "just enough" is just fine for some and anyone who wants more will be cast as ridiculous. Now if I could get my boss to agree that last years numbers are just fine and there is no need to grow I'd be set - selling into an existing user base will never result in measurable growth. Lucky for me he won't......

    Do I think Provape will sell many P3's? Absolutely!
    Do I think Provape will take market share from the tremendous amount of competition that is pushing more technology/capabilities? Unfortunately no

    This is an opinion - well they are like ........ and everyone has one.
     
  7. Kable

    Kable Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 29, 2012
    Davis, CA
    I think 20 watts is more than "just enough" for a lot of vapers, as many only vape in the 10 watt range. Is wanting more ridiculous? Of course not. As far as measurable growth, well the amount of vapers is still increasing, and I think that trend is going to continue for the foreseeable future. I think provape will continue to see growth as the market expands. I don't think it's necessary for them to compete against high powered regulated devices to sell well. They don't need to corner the entire market, and they obviously aren't trying to do that. The market is big enough for many companies to profit.
     
  8. stevegmu

    stevegmu Moved On ECF Veteran

    I know there are some high powered vapers who would pay for a 50 watt ProVari, but from what I have seen on ECF, most high powered vapers want a $50 box mod...
     
  9. EuroChris

    EuroChris Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 24, 2014
    Norway
    Doubt it. I never join sweepstakes to win stuff, even if I wouldn't mind buying it.
     
  10. AstroTurf

    AstroTurf Happy to be... Not Smoking!!! Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  11. USMCotaku

    USMCotaku ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2014
    California
    If most high power vapers only want $50 box mods, I guess Hana modz, vaporshark and other higher end/priced companies are going to go out of business
    Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
     
  12. Mtek

    Mtek Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 14, 2014
    WA
    He said most not all, you are twisting things, may as well say everything is going out of business except 50 dollar boxes. Hana, VS, etc will be just fine if they continue to make a quality product.
     
  13. USMCotaku

    USMCotaku ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2014
    California
    I was merely using the same type of backward logic that had been used against me from the beginning
    Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
     
  14. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Open mind for a different view... Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    My Hana cost me $250, a long time ago, and they're two versions past that now. I dun thin so, Lucy.
     
  15. AstroTurf

    AstroTurf Happy to be... Not Smoking!!! Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    This against me, that against me, that said about me, that said about me...

    BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE!!!
     
  16. stevegmu

    stevegmu Moved On ECF Veteran

    Most certainly doesn't mean all... i wouldn't consider VAporShark to be high end. High priced for a China mod, but not high end, given build issues and now chip/board issues...
     
  17. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    No Hana will stay in business because they make a high quality mod and provide customer service. Now on the the other hand you stated if Provari had 30 watts you would buy one. You mentioned their quality, service, dependability a 100 times. So with all that in mind what did you purchase? Answer a $50.00 Hana clone. So yes most of the higher power mod uses buy clones.

    In case you missed it here is a link for a 30 watt dna mod. TOBECO DNA30 30 WATT TUBE MOD 18650 | kanVape You can buy 4 of them for the price of a 20 watt P3.

    Kat's right if you think it's all against you all you need to do is unsubscribe to this thread or if you think I'm attacking you all you need to do is block me. I hope you find what you want, but if not take your fight to Provape. Make a laundry list of all the improvements you feel are needed and explain to them in electronic terms why they are safe. All I know is positive, negative, and a ground. So do I listen to you about mod safety or Provape who has been doing this for years?

    I would add for the most part Provari owners were die hard smokers, and want a safe way to keep off cigarettes. If I want to fill a room with clouds of vapor I would buy a smoke bomb. All I want is to stay away from Marlboros.
     
  18. Pinggolfer

    Pinggolfer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I missed your post, but I will answer your question. If the P3 was a 50 watt mod I would not be interested in it. I'm happy now with both my 2.5's, but I do like the style of the P3. I'm not at all getting your menu issues with the P3. Looks simple enough for me to use. What confuses you? Changing the LED lights? Isn't the advantage to VW is all you do is set it and forget it?
     
  19. Norrin

    Norrin Super Member

    Aug 29, 2014
    Shetland
    Although to me the P3 is way too expensive, it's well built will last and for you Americans has reasonable repair costs (postage charges make that untrue for the rest of us). Since most people do vape at less than 20W it has a market and as long as they keep the build quality up it will remain. You also have the big problem with many of these higher powered devices having serious and sometimes dangerous problems so you also have those who will pick the P3 because they can trust it to work well and safely. I don't understand this hatred for Provari, yes I would never buy one but I can understand the appeal.
     
  20. AstroTurf

    AstroTurf Happy to be... Not Smoking!!! Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Lovers Gonna Love... Haters Gonna Hate.

    One Thing I have learned in my relatively short time as a professional vaper is...

    That when I setup a tank on a Provi and further tweak and set the Voltage/Watts to my preference. I can then duplicate that same vape on any of my Provi consistently.

    Not so with lesser mods. I have found the fluctuations to be too great, whether in settings or electricity delivery. No consistency.

    Is that true with all other mods? I do not know, and don't really care.

    My care is for my pleasure and repeatability... The Bullseye Everytime! That's what I want. Everytime!

    Jim
     
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