So would you have disappointed if the P3 did 50 watts and had a menu structure that didn't require owning one to understand or better yet allowed an atty to sit flush with the tube diameter?
Being "just enough" or relying on the existing customer base doesn't cut it in a competitive market place and was the point of the OP.
It's sad this thread didn't allow for objectivity or honesty.
None of what you said matters, when faced with the fact that Provape isn't hurting for money, and they certainly aren't going anywhere, any time soon.
They play their cards so close to their chest, that their hand is practically inside their rib cage. The -FINAL- P3 update is still so far off, it doesn't even exist yet. With such a powerful chip inside, who's to say they can't or won't up the wattage output, as battery technology advances? They only limited the P3 to 20 watts (for now) because that's the safest THEY determined (for themselves) that an 18350 battery can put out. Their safety standards, and protection of their own liability, is their own business. If some other company wants to go above and beyond them, that's that company's prerogative! Not Provape's!
As for the menu thing...I learned the P3 menu from watching about three videos on YouTube. Before I even owned one. So, to insult the intelligence of anyone who doesn't own a Provari, by saying you "have to own one to understand it" is just a petty jab at something YOU don't understand. That is nobody's fault but your own. The information is, and has been, WIDELY available for many years.
And so what if their tube doesn't sit flush with atomizers, or vice versa? Has the World Vaping Council gathered and agreed that no atomizer shall ever been more than 22mm? Cuz I'm pretty sure when the first 26650 hit the streets, NOTHING fit it. Provape is a big enough company, and has set enough standards, that atomizer mfg's will probably follow their lead, and make an atomizer to fit the P3...which will be easy to justify, seeing as Provape just took a ballsy step towards a new standard in the vape industry...a NEW CONNECTOR.
Maybe some day we'll all look back on the 510 as the sturdy little work horse that got us through the Dark Ages...or maybe we'll all look back on the P3 as the gaudy bird that almost (or did) kill Provape! Who knows? Nobody! But you seem to be adopting the attitude that Provape is going down in flames, or crumbling from the bottom out...when in reality, they're rising above the crowd (What crowd? The crowd of mechs that all look the same, or the wattage rat race.), and building strong walls against the coming FDA vap-ocalypse, by making a new device that can accommodate not only current atomizers, but atomizers that haven't even been created yet. They're looking to the future of the industry, not just upping the wattage and calling it innovation.
Provape doesn't do many things without an unimaginable amount of forethought, and desire for perfection. I've heard (on other forums) about a new P3 threaded Kayfun in the works...as well as P3 atomizers from Aspire and Kanger. And that certainly doesn't make me feel like Provape is in any danger. Will dripping atomizers be made to fit it's size? Probably not many, if any. But since when has anyone picked up a dripper and immediately thought that it would be great on a Provari? Hardly ever. Provaris cater to the carto/BCC/BDC/BVC/Kayfun/Nautilus/Silo/Fogger/etc side of vaping...and I'm sorry, but the majority of vapers use those devices. And that's who Provape has stated they are marketing to...the MAJORITY of vapers...not ALL.
There is nothing wrong with stating what you'd like to see from Provape. I'm a big fan, and there are things I'd still like to see. But do I look down my nose at them, simply because they don't make the device that is perfect for ME? No way! They make the device that is closest to the needs of my vaping habit.
NO COMPANY MAKES THE PERFECT DEVICE FOR -EVERYONE-
This thread didn't allow for objectivity and honesty? So were you not trying to be objective and honest? I'm pretty sure I have been the whole time! Who was stopping you? This is an online, text-based forum...everyone gets a turn.
This isn't a personal attack on you RickCain.
I am not angry, upset, offended, hurt, or in the least bit bothered by anything said in this forum. I'm just speaking my mind, as everyone else here is.
This is just my response to what you said. I'm not saying, or doing anything, to keep you from being as objective and honest as I am.
People need to LEAVE EMOTIONS AT THE DOOR.
