I switched to TC because I got a couple dry hits, and I wanted to see what all the hype was about, and then I got a dry hit on TC, so I switched back to Wattage 
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Kanthal Alloy contains between 20-30% Chromium. While tiny amounts of chromium are beneficial when eaten, inhaling it on a regular basis can cause a wide range or respiratory problems including asthma and chronic bronchitis and has even been linked to lung cancer, as well as pulmonary disease and liver failure.
I really don't get the people who insist TC is more work or more complicated compared to VW mode
step 1: wrap and install coil
step 2: wick & fill tank or drip
step 3: set max wattage appropriate to your build and work up the temp till you find your sweet spot like you would set the wattage in VW mode (you'll know these values by heart soon enough once you start using it), and voila, you're done.
What's so different in this process from using VW mode?
To me there are no downsides, only benefits, and a much more ejoyable, smoother vape to boot.
You guys are missing out.
Exactly, how exactly is it more work?
Lets see....
I used to wrap 7/8 wraps of kanthal on 3mm for about 1.1 ohms in my Lemo 2
Now i wrap 7/8 wraps of 316L SS on 3mm for about 0.6 ohms in my Lemo 2
I used to set my watts in vw to 18 and go up and down, up and down, up and down to find the right spot
Now i set my max watts to 50w (its so hard to press the up button) as a ceiling and NEVER move it
Before i didnt have a temp to set
Now I set my temp to 185c and almost never move it, unless its winter
Before i used to hit my fire button and inhale the vapor
Now i hit my fire button and inhale the vapor
Its actually less work when i dont move the watts ever or the temp (hardly if ever)...how anyone can say its more work....sheesh...haters
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maybe you'll learn to wick better, because thats where your fault was most likely, tc never said it was going to cure bad building....I switched to TC because I got a couple dry hits, and I wanted to see what all the hype was about, and then I got a dry hit on TC, so I switched back to Wattage
Picks up mic and hands it back to you, so you can drop it again on another really poor point
And that, is how its done...
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It is more work..like having to use escribe, setting temp, and use a TC wire for starters..I've tried TC and I get a better vape with watt mode in a simple build with Kanthel or Nichrome...I know when it's time to re-drip with a RDA without my mod telling me..been drippig for years on mechs without TC..I know what I'm doing...Exactly, how exactly is it more work?
Lets see....
I used to wrap 7/8 wraps of kanthal on 3mm for about 1.1 ohms in my Lemo 2
Now i wrap 7/8 wraps of 316L SS on 3mm for about 0.6 ohms in my Lemo 2
I used to set my watts in vw to 18 and go up and down, up and down, up and down to find the right spot
Now i set my max watts to 50w (its so hard to press the up button) as a ceiling and NEVER move it
Before i didnt have a temp to set
Now I set my temp to 185c and almost never move it, unless its winter
Before i used to hit my fire button and inhale the vapor
Now i hit my fire button and inhale the vapor
Its actually less work when i dont move the watts ever or the temp (hardly if ever)...how anyone can say its more work....sheesh...haters
Same goes vaping my RTA's and Subtanks..it's easy to see when it's time to refill looking at the juice level in the tank......and it's without
having to set up a pricey DNA mod because I don't need or use TC..it does nothing for me other than complicate things and the end result is worse than straight wattage mode..
Lastly I'm a cloud chaser, not a flavor chaser..I get thicker clouds on a simple Nichrome build with straight wattage than pulsing my coils with TC..just my 2¢, [emoji3]
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It is more work..like having to use escribe, setting temp, and use a TC wire for starters..I've tried TC and I get a better vape with watt mode in a simple build with Kanthel or Nichrome...I know when it's time to re-drip with a RDA without my mod telling me..been drippig for years on mechs without TC..I know what I'm doing...
Same goes vaping my RTA's and Subtanks..it's easy to see when it's time to refill looking at the juice level in the tank......and it's without
having to set up a pricey DNA mod because I don't need or use TC..it does nothing for me other than complicate things and the end result is worse than straight wattage mode..
Lastly I'm a cloud chaser, not a flavor chaser..I get thicker clouds on a simple Nichrome build with straight wattage than pulsing my coils with TC..just my 2¢, [emoji3]
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First, who said a DNA mod is the only way to do TC and that you HAVE to use eScribe? Even if you do use a DNA mod, who said you HAVE to use eScribe? The mods do come all configured (well, the good ones from reliable companies do) so if you don't want to mess around, you never need eScribe.
If you like Kanthal stick with it. Personally, building with SS is just as easy and can be used in any mode of operation.
As to the opening question of whether TC in pointless, it's pretty clear the answer is no, as there are plenty of folks using it who are happy with it. The question could just as easily be posed as whether wattage mode is pointless. Pointless means useless, and neither TC nor wattage modes are useless/pointless. Use whichever makes you happy. All these contortions about which mode is better is pointless.
Old habits seem hard to change ...
My eVic-VTC Mini is capable of temp control, but I still use only the power mode (VW).
I make a single 27 gauge Kanthal coil at about 1.35 ohms and feed it 12 watts of power with the eVic-VTC Mini.
Mouth to lung vape with a Kayfun Lite-Plus V2 atomizer
My eVic-VTC Mini is capable of temp control, but I still use only the power mode (VW).
I make a single 27 gauge Kanthal coil at about 1.35 ohms and feed it 12 watts of power with the eVic-VTC Mini.
Mouth to lung vape with a Kayfun Lite-Plus V2 atomizer
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On every new TC device I get I always try TC first when I get it (assuming I have the appropriate coil).
So far I have switched to VW mode on all of them.
I guess I just prefer VW.
So far I have switched to VW mode on all of them.
I guess I just prefer VW.
I'm with you Hendog
These 5 mods I vape in rotation has a TC mode...after trying TC I stick with wattage mode..it just works better for me..lol
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What is all this business about "temperature control" he asks...
As he drips on his 510 atomizer mounted upon an Ego Twist battery...
As he drips on his 510 atomizer mounted upon an Ego Twist battery...
Pointless? I always thought temperature control was developed to help limit the possibility of transforming liquid, wicking and electrical components into potential nasties by excessive heat. I'd say TC can be rendered pointless if a user chooses to blindly crank the temp to the top and vape away, hitting the top limit on every puff.
I have two TC devices and they are awesome but I prefer my mechs. I try not to run my mechs in a condition in which nasties could be created but probably not 100% reliably.
I have two TC devices and they are awesome but I prefer my mechs. I try not to run my mechs in a condition in which nasties could be created but probably not 100% reliably.
I used watts mode for 9 months then got a TC mod and compared. I was sure watts control was better but went exclusively to TC for 6 weeks. Then I compared the two again and decided I liked temp control better. (A lot of what we prefer is what we get used to.) I use stainless wire so occaisionally I switch to watts mode to compare. So far I'm sticking with temp control. If you're using stainless on regulated mods with TC you don't have to choose, there's no fork in the road. As for mechs, I wouldn't use a phone or hand drill with no battery protections. Why would I break that rule for vaping? A face is a terrible thing to waste.
I use an SV rda clone exclusively. In the car, and similar situations, if the wick gets dry I can keep on puffing with no dry hits until it's convenient to drip. I like the consistancy of TC. My coils gunk up slower with TC. I like being able to set a higher max watts than I would use in watts mode to get the coil up to temp faster. I don't care about clouds or flavor. I care about throat hit, nic, vaper texture, and reducing daily ml's over time.
I use an SV rda clone exclusively. In the car, and similar situations, if the wick gets dry I can keep on puffing with no dry hits until it's convenient to drip. I like the consistancy of TC. My coils gunk up slower with TC. I like being able to set a higher max watts than I would use in watts mode to get the coil up to temp faster. I don't care about clouds or flavor. I care about throat hit, nic, vaper texture, and reducing daily ml's over time.
TC would do nothing for me ... but I'm just me. I know plenty of people that use it & enjoy it.
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When it's all said & done, TC is simply a different way of doing the same thing.
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When it's all said & done, TC is simply a different way of doing the same thing.
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I'm kinda with you on this one. The mech users all say that if you know ohm's law, safe building and battery safety, then you are safe. That's true if everything is working correctly, but not so much if your lock ring vibrates loose in your pocket or bag and the fire button activates and stays engaged. There's just no backup.
I use mechanicals probably 90% of the time ... always have. However, I fully realize that I'm the backup!
Ive been using mechanicals for a number of years and agree I am the backup
Both of these mechs have a hybrid top cap, recessed buttons (no lock ring needed) copper contacts and magnetic switches..
Been vaping these mechs for about three years now, safely,
And without TC, lol
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I knew I'd get this response.
I would argue that you're the "primary line of defense" and there's still no backup. I do think, generally speaking, if you're careful, mechs can be reasonably safe, but they still aren't as safe as when you have a backup.
LolI knew I'd get this response.
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