Is the istick the new Provari?
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I think the istick is just the new entry level. Used to be, Spinners were all you'd see, but I think eventually everyone gets in the mindset of not wanting to recharge batteries all day, so they move up to something like the istick. Now, enter new vapers asking what they should get and they hear "this one lasts for days". Sounds a lot better than "you need 6 of these to make it through the day". It just seems like a natural progression to me. The iStick hit the market hard because it allows new vapers the opportunity to buy something for cheap (no buy and try only to find out it doesn't hit hard enough) that lasts all day with a broad range of power, as to be suitable for any beginner's power preference. For the price, I'd have to agree it is the ideal device for an introduction to the sport. It suits a lot of needs, shuts down a lot of common complaints, and doesn't scare people off by being expensive.
It's not the new ProVari, it's the new intro/novice device. It even sits well with a lot of advanced vapers. I know they have had some [hopefully] QC issues, but there's no denying the market is demanding this device.
It's not the new ProVari, it's the new intro/novice device. It even sits well with a lot of advanced vapers. I know they have had some [hopefully] QC issues, but there's no denying the market is demanding this device.
This 100%. I understand the defense of the ProVari. It's an excellent device and a lot of people paid a lot of money for one. Now it's simply being overshadowed by cheaper tech. ProVari's are awesome, but iSticks are awesome too in their own right. They're not the same quality and I couldn't imagine Eleaf standing behind them quite as sturdily as ProVape, but it really is defined by the user. To each his own is the only way to end this argument.
What an insult to a quality unit like a Provari An Istick has a life span of the battery. A Provari can last for years!
An Istick is like a Bic lighter when it stop working you chuck it. Provari's can be fixed.
You Get What You Pay For
An Istick has a life span of the battery. A Provari can last for years!An Istick is like a Bic lighter when it stop working you chuck it. Provari's can be fixed.
You Get What You Pay For
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Can't afford ( insert whatever device here ) but could afford pack after pack carton after carton of cigarettes every day, week, month & year without having to scrimp & save for them.
,,, sounds legit.
Istick is just the latest low cost feature rich starter that will suite a majority of vapers without need of an upgrade power device if they chose to transition to a wide variety of the latest delivery devices .
,,, sounds legit.
Istick is just the latest low cost feature rich starter that will suite a majority of vapers without need of an upgrade power device if they chose to transition to a wide variety of the latest delivery devices .
the I stick 20 is the best disposable mod I've ever used.I might have had them all.Why are we comparing a disposable to a non disposable?
I never bought into the I can't afford it debate. No matter what the situation was affording cigarettes was never a issue. I look at the cost of a Provari as being 4 cartons of cigarettes. Not outrageous at all.
This place use to be full of the 'Provari is to expensive' threads. Now the Provari is the cheapest quality mod on the market. I bought a new one for $110, it even has a fancy ZenKote paint job.
I bought an iStick50 for no other reason than to see what I was missing out on. Turns out I wasn't missing out on a thing. So now I have a 50 watt disposable PV set at 8 watts.
Ditto. Where I live, a carton of smokes goes for almost a hundred bucks. So if you're a pack a day smoker, that's over 300 bucks a month on smokes, with nothing to show for it. It amazes me how many people try to nickel and dime all their vape gear, yet had no problem with the cigs. A few good mods is money well spent. Priceless, IMO.
Health>money>everything else.
I would love to pick up a Provari, and if I stay the course for, say, 6 months, then I would feel justified in getting one. But in this era of monster-sized subohm tanks, what toppers are you guys putting on the Provari?
Not everyone who vapes is sub-ohming or dripping. I have different mods/setups for different situations. It's like a car. If you're going to get groceries, you're not gonna take the corvette. There's alotta old school vapers that still vape the old school way. Time and place for everything.
A Sub Tank come with a 1.2 ohm coil,that will run fine on a Provari
I run a Kayfun V4 on my mini at 1.2 ohms 4.2 volts vapes like a Boss
I run a Kayfun V4 on my mini at 1.2 ohms 4.2 volts vapes like a Boss
Currently one is outfitted with a Goblin tank. The other a Scuba tank with Diver V2. I don't need to sub-ohm on my Vari's--got other devices for that.
many folks stopped recommending the Provari, because of the sheer volume of hate that would follow.
many would jump all over a Provari recommendation ... with comments like, elitists, why waste money, a Vamo or such is just as good for a fraction of the price ... blah, blah, blah.
we've been hearing about the New Provari killers for 5 years ... funny, we're still waiting for it
For a while, I was recommending the iStick, over the Ego or MVP, as a good starter mod, but the various issues that have been revealed, over time, with them has caused me to stop recommending them to people who do not have the experience to evaluate whether or not those issues constitute deal breakers for them personally.
But, then again, I do not go around recommending ProVaris either.
I know why I personally use ProVaris, but I also know why smokers, and new vapers, and some not-so-new vapers, look askance at mine when I'm out and about.
No, I'm back to recommending high nicotine cigalikes for people just looking for a smoking replacement, or Ego tank systems, or, yes, the MVPs.
The MVPs come out looking very good against the iSticken imo.
Yes, they are heavy. Yes, they could be mistaken for Mac10s by law enforcement, but overall they are very much more reliable, and accurate in their regulation, than the iSticks.
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The original post wasn't really fair, in my eyes. I don't remember since being here, everyone saying "just get a ProVari." I do recall people recommending them to posters looking for a step up from their current systems, and wanting something reliable and durable. REOs mods were also suggested quite commonly. New vapers were advised to get an EGO/EVOD or Vivi Nova, in those times, and the spinner and itazte and MVP were the hot new darlings on the block.
Maybe the just get a ProVari was before my coming here. All along, whenever someone would suggest a ProVari, the negatives would start being thrown around. All the same old tired arguments would re-surface ad nauseum.
The playing field has shifted drastically in the last year or so with all the higher Watt and lower Ω gear flooding the market. More and more vendors are discontinuing their Protank 2's, for an example.
Nowadays, the istick is all you hear about, six months from now, who knows?
Me, I'll still be happily vaping away on my Provari's, usingnautilus (oops) Genesis tanks, Protank 2's, and yes, even drippers. And keeping them company will be my REOs mods, why? Because I did my homework and found out what works best for me, and will stand the test of time. You might not always have so many options in future times, I have invested in the future of me being able to keep on vaping for a long time...
Maybe the just get a ProVari was before my coming here. All along, whenever someone would suggest a ProVari, the negatives would start being thrown around. All the same old tired arguments would re-surface ad nauseum.
The playing field has shifted drastically in the last year or so with all the higher Watt and lower Ω gear flooding the market. More and more vendors are discontinuing their Protank 2's, for an example.
Nowadays, the istick is all you hear about, six months from now, who knows?
Me, I'll still be happily vaping away on my Provari's, using
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It is locked now and holding steady at 10W. Might of been all it needed.
I own two Istick 20W and both threads are worn. I am using two sided tape just to vape on them. SUCKS LEMONS Big time. Any suggestions??Heya freeall. Yes, it's abstolutely 'Stick country around these parts lately.
I have several. And I have several Provis as well. And a few <cough> other devices as well. They all serve some purpose dependent on mood, time, carry weight, event, etc.
I see the 'Sticks as the eGo of 2011, the Twist of 2012, and the iTazte V3 of 2013. To me they are an inexpen$ive little 'disposable' device, and I'll enjoy them til they bugger off to the great mod heaven in the sky.
My Provis tho..... they'll stay. They'll be the same consistent and lush vape givers they were from Day One.
I don't even see a way of comparing the two.
ProVape could start selling the ProVari for a dime and people would still claim they're too expensive. It's become the habit of those who have never owned one. It's even funnier now.....it's actually one of the most inexpensive high end mods on the market.....yet you can still hear the shouts..."outrageously overpriced" or "yesterdays technology..." Since when did creating an "outrageously over powered and under engineered" box become cutting edge tech? Crazy...
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