Isn't it basically palm oil? Palm oil is a saturated fat. Is it fermented or cooked down into a sugar? That may even be worse...
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Isn't it basically palm oil? Palm oil is a saturated fat. Is it fermented or cooked down into a sugar? That may even be worse...
Here we go, this explains everything- it is a fat and an alcohol-
Fats, Oils, Fatty Acids, Triglycerides - Chemical Structure (Page 1 of 3)
Fats, Oils, Fatty Acids, Triglycerides - Chemical Structure (Page 1 of 3)
From your Link...
"Glycerol is a trihydric alcohol (containing three -OH hydroxyl groups) that can combine with up to three fatty acids to form monoglycerides, diglycerides, and triglycerides."
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Trihydric Alcohol -- Medical Definition
That makes it a fatty alcohol hybrid, correct? Granted I only skimmed the article as I had to make my dinner salad...
I think Technically, for something to be called a "Smoke Juice", it must contain At Least 20% PG.
But that is just what I have Heard. No Study data is available.
Interesting. Perhaps those 5-6 million vapers involved in the clinical study can be asked whether smoke juice is appropriate in reference to all e-liquids, regardless of PG/VG ratios, in the questionnaire at the end of the long term study...
The salad is delicious, by the way and diketone free...
Not a Bad Idea.
BTW - Mickey D's Salad Dressing and Big Mac's contain PG. Anyone who watched the FDA Workshop today about Biomarkers knows that.
And Yes, in this Case, there IS Study Data.
My salad consists of a head of lettuce, cherry tomatoes, bell peppers, pepperoncini, half a habanero, black olives, green olives stuffed with garlic, fat free croutons, a boiled egg, turkey, balsamic vinegar, oive oil, pepper, oregano, parmesan cheese and non flavored Šmakoun...
No, there is a HUGE difference. In the case of weight trends, it is easy to find people that gained weight, lost weight or stayed the same, after quitting smoking while vaping. You will find similar groups among people that quit smoking without vaping. Trying to carve out the impact of vaping, and VG in particular, would be a huge statistical undertaking. No one can do that anecdotally.
Contrasting that, there are simply no people known to ANY OF US reporting lung function impairment due to vaping. Those people do not exist, to any of our knowledge. If they did exist, and were known, you would be posting links as well as many other people. But you can't because they are unknown. That is a very easy statistical problem. It's somewhere around millions:zero. I have no doubt that if enough grant money were thrown at the problem, some outliers would be found. But it is incredibly unlikely that these people exist in large numbers but are hiding from us. It is even more unlikely, considering that the various vape-hating groups have not found them because those people would like nothing better than to trot out sick vapers to justify their demands to control vaping.
And once again, I have challenged everyone to post links to people reporting lung degradation. None have been posted. OTOH, I can google "stop smoking weight loss" and find all the examples I want, vaping or not. Two very different situations.
You must not be reading the forum, if you don't believe some if not many vapers are having respiratory problems. Most of it is their own doing, given how they are vaping, however...
That is anecdotal evidence based on hundreds of discussions about the subject in this forum. There was also a study reported here, surveying 300-500 vapers and asking about their change in health. I don't have a link. It was, as expected, very positive about the health changes associated with vaping and quitting the smokes.
Here is the link to the study I mentioned... A retrospective study on the health effects of vaping | E-Cigarette Forum
Very interesting read, and as expected positive health changes after vaping/quitting massively overwhelmed the very few reported negative changes.
I read the forums but I know the difference between minor issues such as PG irritation that does not persist and long term respiratory issues. You, however, try to commingle those ideas, apparently to pursue your agenda. It is a shame we are unable to have an intelligent conversation.
I have COPD. I've talked to my doc about it and read quite widely on the topic. My understanding is that once you develop COPD it continues to worsen. Quitting smoking and taking the available medications slows its rate of development, but doesn't stop it or reverse it.
What you said contradicts that. I would expect all people with COPD to see their condition worsening over time whether they were smoking or vaping, or doing neither. I would be interested to see what information led you to this conclusion.
All I can tell you is that in the year since I quit smoking my perceived respiratory capability has improved. I did use the word "perceived" in my original statement (and here) because I am aware of what your doctor told you. However, that is not my perception of my own condition. I have not taken any meds for it either. I probably have a more moderate case? I don't know. I decided not to seek treatment (read take possibly unnecessary drugs) unless I felt it necessary, which I do not.
I tend not to do things repeatedly which cause my body undue stress, but I care about my well being. I suppose one can question whether respiratory distress is a minor inconvenience, but I imagine they have never experienced it...
It does take me a month to recover from a holiday in Prague, but some things are wotth it...
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Oh, there was an incorrect summary written by one of the pro vaping activist Internet doctors stating vaping reverses COPD...
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