Is there any room for vanity here???

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Adrenalynn

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Why can't people SEE these things??

I know you're being tongue-in-cheek, but this brings up a good point.

The human brain has evolved into an outstanding pattern matching machine. In fact, it's _so_ good at matching patterns that it has a strong tendency to make-up patterns when none exist.

Most of us, self included, haven't been vaping long enough to find any metabolic "change". Metabolism ebbs and flows, and there are many things that contribute to it. Over time patterns emerge. But not over weeks. Seasons? Probably. A couple months? No.

I can account for very nearly every calorie that has gone into my body from 1987 until ~2hrs ago. With quite a few more gaps - my blood pressure and heart rate sampled several times through each day. [a training habit I got into early in cycling. I'm really rather subject to forming habits, I think... :oops:] My metabolism could be said to be down substantially since I started vaping. Coincidentally - that's the same time my cycling season ended. I've gained a fair bit of weight - but the last two weeks my metabolism is starting to "wake up" - and the weight is starting to drop off. Gosh - how does vaping fit into that model? Could be the 400+ miles of riding this week, and effectively coming out of my "hibernation". [I'm pretty bad at maintaining off-season training].

Patterns are beginning to emerge that as I approach 40, bringing my metabolism "back online" takes longer and that it doesn't peak at the levels it did when I was in my early 20's.

The point is: this is a long-term play. Don't look at today, look at the data over the last six months, a year, five years... And look for other cause-and-effect (like #hrs spent in front of the forum this month that would have been spent walking the dog this month last year, for example).

Jazzguy - I'll forgive you because - MahHa! I don't look like Cindy Crawford either! errr - wait. I never said I did. [shrug] Congrats on dropping that extraordinary amount of weight and committing to get and remain healthy!
 

jamvector

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Pics or it didn't happen right? :)

Here's me a little over 4 years ago in Alaska learning to dogsled:
And here I am now:

Strange, huh? I hardly recognize myself in old pictures...

Edited to add: Sorry Adrenalynn - I lied about looking like Bobby Flay. And I'm only 5'11..... :(

Hey Jazzguy, just saw your story. I never tire of reading posts like this; you are truly an inspiration to us all. Thanks for having the courage to tell your quite personal success story, you should be very proud of how you took control of your life. Thanks again for the message, and the pictures too! :thumbs:

Also, love the pirate hat on the dog; where's the parrot?
 

thaumx

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I'm about to switch over, I'll have to keep track of my weight/eating habits. I know that nicotine speeds up heart rate, which may be a decent component to the cig/metabolism thing. not sure what the 1000 other chemicals in analogs do though. hopefully the act of vaping will take care of the oral fixation thing, and I'll get some more decent results. I do agree with adrenalynn though... long-term impact is bound to be more important than short-term weight gain if there is any.
 

Metstoo

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I think 'choice' is heavily influenced by a general ignorance about what REAL food is. It still amazes me when I'm at the grocery store and I see a mom filling her cart with tons of processed foods and snacks... most of which, I'm pretty sure, she thinks is healthy. Convenience and sly marketing outweigh healthy choices, it seems.
 

Stephra

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It also doesn't help that the most economical foods to buy for cash-strapped families are packaged carbohydrates with little nutritional value. A lot of the poor eating habits in this country fall more to simple economics than slick marketing.

I think we all understand that a few heads of fresh broccoli, some whole grain rice and lean chicken breast are a better meal option than a box of Hamburger Helper and whatever 70/30 ground beef is on sale, but often the budget isn't cooperative. Which is why poverty and obesity are linked.
 

yanks21

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It also doesn't help that the most economical foods to buy for cash-strapped families are packaged carbohydrates with little nutritional value. A lot of the poor eating habits in this country fall more to simple economics than slick marketing.

I think we all understand that a few heads of fresh broccoli, some whole grain rice and lean chicken breast are a better meal option than a box of Hamburger Helper and whatever 70/30 ground beef is on sale, but often the budget isn't cooperative. Which is why poverty and obesity are linked.

TOTALLY agree, Stephra!

It's just cheaper to eat like crap.
 

Metstoo

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It also doesn't help that the most economical foods to buy for cash-strapped families are packaged carbohydrates with little nutritional value. A lot of the poor eating habits in this country fall more to simple economics than slick marketing.

I think we all understand that a few heads of fresh broccoli, some whole grain rice and lean chicken breast are a better meal option than a box of Hamburger Helper and whatever 70/30 ground beef is on sale, but often the budget isn't cooperative. Which is why poverty and obesity are linked.

Also a good point.
 

aubergine

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Adren, ya. That wonderful, awful associative capacity is what makes the whole contraption possible, including madness.

At this point there's so much confusion about the difference between correlates and causes (especially in observation fields narrowed by hypotheses that rest upon wobbly, tacit assumptions) that it's a wonder we aren't all completely... well, wait. That's also a wobbly, tacit assumption.

I'm glad that I studied philosophy first. My fundamental orientation to everything looks like a very well informed, gently vibrating question mark.

"It is the mission of the twentieth century to elucidate the irrational."
Maurice Merleau-Ponty

Oh well.

(My weight seems to always just sit at 125 no matter what I do for the past few decades. The substantial quality of that 125 pounds varies wildly. See previous reference to beef jerky dipped in whipped cream. Life- style correlates duly noted, plus encroaching antiquity. Damn.)

(Latest longitudinal research is showing that SRIs have virtually no significant effect on mild-moderate depression. Pfizer et alia had conducted most of those early "miracle" studies. )
 
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