I understand you are not inhaling all the other bad chemicals as real cigs, but are we taking in too much nicotine as the result. BTW I am new at this and i have been smoking 18mg nic carts. NE way thanks
Is this a nicotine overload?
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I remember seeing a chart from the Ruyan NZ study that indicated the nicotine intake from vaping is much less than the nicotine intake from analogs. If I can find the chart and info, I'll check back here to post.
Hmm..interesting and good. It probably depends on how much you vape as well. Thanks
Basically, Ruyan's carts are 16mg liquid and you have to puff an e-cig 72 times to equal the nicotine from one tobacco cigarette. Even newer tests say an e-cig produces only 1/10th the blood nicotine level of a tobacco cigarette.
Listen to your body, always, but don't fear nicotine overdose so much that you fail to satisfy cravings and relapse to cigarettes.
Listen to your body, always, but don't fear nicotine overdose so much that you fail to satisfy cravings and relapse to cigarettes.
Yeah, right. When I listen to my body, I overdose on double bacon cheese burgers.
I have some high nic juice, and if I hit it too hard, I get light headed, and get a massive headache. Tropical Bob is correct. Your body will tell you when it's had too much.
Love 'em.My suggestion, based on how heavy a smoker you were, is to start in the middle -- 11mg or 16mg -- and work up or down, depending on how satisfied you are. I had to go up. You might be fine, or feel you can make do with zero-nic perhaps.
Course, after any double cheeseburger, 36mg seems fitting.
Next question, I have heard the marlboro flavor from "smokey treats" is the closest you can get to an actually cig. Has anyone tried this juice before? If so could you tell me about it.
I was over cautious and started low to zerro; could not quit the analogs. Now, I'm doing 16-24mg and am making much more progress. And, when I do have an analog, I can feel the effect of the nicotine. So, I, now, definitely believe what TB just wrote about it being 1/10. And, I think his advice is right on target about starting in the middle and then adjusting up or down.
My question to you is, if you're trying to quit analogs, do you really want a flavor that tastes like analogs? You may want to think about a flavor other than an analog that you would enjoy.
"Next question, I have heard the marlboro flavor from "smokey treats" is the closest you can get to an actually cig. Has anyone tried this juice before? If so could you tell me about it."
E-SmokeyTreats is darn good stuff. Enjoy! I think you'll find out, as many of us already have, that the analog taste you craved will be replaced by a huge hankerin' for 36mg watermelon. Strange, but true.
E-SmokeyTreats is darn good stuff. Enjoy! I think you'll find out, as many of us already have, that the analog taste you craved will be replaced by a huge hankerin' for 36mg watermelon. Strange, but true.
I've not been vaping very long myself. From my personal experience is when i first started i only wanted that tobacco taste ( Marlboro user in analogs) I just started flavored and i am loving them, but still use tobacco flavored some just not as much.
I still smoke analogs ( use to smoke 3 packs a day and on bad days 4) I'm now down to a pack a day of analogs and i believe with the flavored carts they may help me go even lower. Hope so anyway As for the nicotine use i use several strengths. When i'm vaping like a mad scientist i use 0, and when i'm on my porch relaxing i use 11, and when i'm stressed or just need a quick nic fix i use 16mg. I was also concerned about my nicotine intake, but feel a lot better about it after reading so many experience from other vapers. This lets me know i'm not the only one with concerns and question. The fact that you can get help and it's help from a brother or sister vapor is just the cherry on top of the ice cream
I still smoke analogs ( use to smoke 3 packs a day and on bad days 4) I'm now down to a pack a day of analogs and i believe with the flavored carts they may help me go even lower. Hope so anyway
As for the nicotine use i use several strengths. When i'm vaping like a mad scientist i use 0, and when i'm on my porch relaxing i use 11, and when i'm stressed or just need a quick nic fix i use 16mg. I was also concerned about my nicotine intake, but feel a lot better about it after reading so many experience from other vapers. This lets me know i'm not the only one with concerns and question. The fact that you can get help and it's help from a brother or sister vapor is just the cherry on top of the ice cream 
My personal feeling is that the nicotine is minimal,
I have had my ecig for almost 2 weeks
Havnt had an analog in the same time
And havnt had nicotine in 3 days
None of this has been a struggle, Just felt.... Right.
I have had my ecig for almost 2 weeks
Havnt had an analog in the same time
And havnt had nicotine in 3 days
None of this has been a struggle, Just felt.... Right.
1)36mg Puresmoker Menthol/Vapor4life Red Cow Nobacco or Cola Nobacco
I use these in the mornings at wakeup and at bars or night clubs and during boring family gatherings
2)24mg Goodprophets Mint/V4Life Vanilla and Cola
I use these during weekend while doing home projects,shopping trips or after nookie8-o
3)18 mg Goodprophets Mint
I vape this all day weekdays till 7 or 8pm
4)11mg Puresmoker Cola
I use this after 7pm weekdays while playing late night sessions call of duty /gaming on the PS3 or watching sports
5)4mg Puresmoker Apple
I use this while reading and posting on my computer in bed
Its been over a month really might be 45 days and this regimen has made me craving free and HAPPY
I use these in the mornings at wakeup and at bars or night clubs and during boring family gatherings
2)24mg Goodprophets Mint/V4Life Vanilla and Cola
I use these during weekend while doing home projects,shopping trips or after nookie8-o
3)18 mg Goodprophets Mint
I vape this all day weekdays till 7 or 8pm
4)11mg Puresmoker Cola
I use this after 7pm weekdays while playing late night sessions call of duty /gaming on the PS3 or watching sports
5)4mg Puresmoker Apple
I use this while reading and posting on my computer in bed
Its been over a month really might be 45 days and this regimen has made me craving free and HAPPY
Ditto what the others said about starting with a medium nic solution and working up or down as needed. I was a 2+ pack a day smoker (American Spirit menthol), and so I assumed I should start off with a high concentration. I got a wicked headache and some nausea, and eventually figured out I was taking in too much nicotine. (I vape more than I smoked.)
Stepping down to a medium caused the headaches and nausea to magically disappear.
Like folks have said, your body will let you know. For me, I vape mostly low and medium liquid, then spike with a higher nicotine concentration when the cravings start. Works great for me--I've been off analogs since the end of January.
Personally, I think too many newcomers start with too high a nicotine concentration. For most of us, we tend to vape more than we smoked--we can vape in more places than we smoked, we're distracting ourselves from our desire for an analog, and/or we're enjoying a new toy. I also think that not everyone absorbs nicotine with the same efficiency so that for some, more moderate doses may not come even close to satisfying while for others, it works just fine. I also wouldn't be at all surprised to find that the model of e-cig may play a part--perhaps warmer vapor may promote better absorption. Who knows.
But if you listen to your body, you'll rarely go wrong.
As for the tobacco flavored liquids, the only ones that I've found that taste analog like are Janty heavy shag/cigar. Other tobacco flavors taste good to me, but they have a sweeter undertone than analogs. The longer I've been vaping, though, the better those sweeter tastes seem to me. Basically, I've decided that I don't really care for the taste of cigarettes, so my days of trying to find the "perfect" liquid that mimics my former tobacco habit are a thing of the past.
Stepping down to a medium caused the headaches and nausea to magically disappear.
Like folks have said, your body will let you know. For me, I vape mostly low and medium liquid, then spike with a higher nicotine concentration when the cravings start. Works great for me--I've been off analogs since the end of January.
Personally, I think too many newcomers start with too high a nicotine concentration. For most of us, we tend to vape more than we smoked--we can vape in more places than we smoked, we're distracting ourselves from our desire for an analog, and/or we're enjoying a new toy.
I also think that not everyone absorbs nicotine with the same efficiency so that for some, more moderate doses may not come even close to satisfying while for others, it works just fine. I also wouldn't be at all surprised to find that the model of e-cig may play a part--perhaps warmer vapor may promote better absorption. Who knows.But if you listen to your body, you'll rarely go wrong.
As for the tobacco flavored liquids, the only ones that I've found that taste analog like are Janty heavy shag/cigar. Other tobacco flavors taste good to me, but they have a sweeter undertone than analogs. The longer I've been vaping, though, the better those sweeter tastes seem to me. Basically, I've decided that I don't really care for the taste of cigarettes, so my days of trying to find the "perfect" liquid that mimics my former tobacco habit are a thing of the past.
Similar to Cancer, I find myself switching throughout the day.
36mg. first thing in the morning and for nights where liquor is involved.
16-24mg. the rest of the time.
In a few weeks I plan to try 24mg in the morning and lower for the rest of the rest of the day but I don't want to push myself just yet. Today makes 2 weeks that I haven't smoked
In reference to OD'ing.. I have been vaping, spilled the liquid on my hands, rubbed it in my eye on accident, sucked liquid into my mouth which got it all over my lips and I seem to be o.k. (That has happened a few times, usually first thing in the morning or where liquor has been involved)
36mg. first thing in the morning and for nights where liquor is involved.
16-24mg. the rest of the time.
In a few weeks I plan to try 24mg in the morning and lower for the rest of the rest of the day but I don't want to push myself just yet. Today makes 2 weeks that I haven't smoked
In reference to OD'ing.. I have been vaping, spilled the liquid on my hands, rubbed it in my eye on accident, sucked liquid into my mouth which got it all over my lips and I seem to be o.k. (That has happened a few times, usually first thing in the morning or where liquor has been involved
)This is all very good info. I believe i will still try the smokey treat brand though, just because my intentions were not to quit however cut back and save some cash is all. Thanks again!
I myself have never had a nic headache from vaping, I vape 24 and 36mg juice and I am a heavy vaper. I use to have nic headaches from analogs on the weekends all the time, and on stressful days when I smoked more than 2 packs.
As far as a true cigarette falvored juice the best I have tried is camel from V4L, but my favorite tobacco juices would be 555 and Ry4 they both have a nice rich taste compared to the USA brands of cigarette tasting juice.
Happy Vaping
-Dan
As far as a true cigarette falvored juice the best I have tried is camel from V4L, but my favorite tobacco juices would be 555 and Ry4 they both have a nice rich taste compared to the USA brands of cigarette tasting juice.
Happy Vaping
-Dan
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