It's kind of crazy (unlucky, call it what you want) that those of us with 1 or 2 Ithakas have no leaking problems whatsoever yet people with 8 (wow) seem to be having issues.
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I really tried to explain you what is going on yankee and I really hope that after your break you will feel more comfortable. I know that you use GG series for your daily vaping and I have to thank you for this. I hope jojo will do the same as you, as she did a few weeks back. Also be sure that I dont want to lose you as my customers because I like you both very much. A lost GG customer without a serious reason is a big loss for me because I care for everyone of you.
No issues with mine. I love it, as most of us do. It is a high quality vape. To be fair, I see it all the time on other rba threads. For example, the diver, the killer, the kayfun...etc. Most have no problems, but always a few will have problems. I spoke to one girl who owned 3 or 4 Kayfun lites, and all the sudden they all began leaking? Tried to tell her it was her build but she wanted to blame the Kayfun. /shrug
I had a drop or 2 of seepage the first week I owned my Ithaka but a over night soak in water and a good coating of vasoline cleared it right up.
I would think your problem could be o-ring tolerances if you didn't have so many Ithaka's having the same issue. Still I wonder if something as simple as the dental floss method used for drip tips could help solve your leaking issue.
Here's to hoping the 17x1's work out for you guys.
I would think your problem could be o-ring tolerances if you didn't have so many Ithaka's having the same issue. Still I wonder if something as simple as the dental floss method used for drip tips could help solve your leaking issue.
Here's to hoping the 17x1's work out for you guys.
Mine leaks lately, every time i fill it with e-liquid, it will flood my mech mod. It does leaks from the wall just below GG logo. Today, i give it a good hot bath and a good smear of vasiline to all orings and threading and realign the tank section as it seems to be wobbly before it reach the o-rings. No problem so far, leaking and flooding during refills seems to disappear.
I have used this Master Plumber, Faucet Silicone Lubricant, Resealable, Blister Card. since back in the day with my ScubaTank (If anyone here remembers those 
) and I never assemble a mod without it. It conditions the o-rings as well as lubricate and seal them. And it can be purchased in just about any hardware store in the plumbing section. I purchased at $2.05 for 1/2 fl oz a few years ago and I am not even 1/4 way through it. A Dab will do ya with this stuff.
I dont like to use Vaseline with o-rings because, even though I know these aren't made of real rubber, I have a phobia that the petroleum will eventually dry-rot them.
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) and I never assemble a mod without it. It conditions the o-rings as well as lubricate and seal them. And it can be purchased in just about any hardware store in the plumbing section. I purchased at $2.05 for 1/2 fl oz a few years ago and I am not even 1/4 way through it. A Dab will do ya with this stuff.I dont like to use Vaseline with o-rings because, even though I know these aren't made of real rubber, I have a phobia that the petroleum will eventually dry-rot them.
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I'm no pro with e-cigs but as a former mechanic I know better than to use petroleum jelly on rubber orings, it causes them to swell up.
If you "must" lubricate orings, I would suggest using e liquid or one of its ingredients like PG or VG. If it wasn't meant to be for vaping, the correct lubricant would be silicone grease, which won't harm rubber.
If you "must" lubricate orings, I would suggest using e liquid or one of its ingredients like PG or VG. If it wasn't meant to be for vaping, the correct lubricant would be silicone grease, which won't harm rubber.
Yankee, i know your upset and i get it. when something doesn't work the way expected to (for any reason) its frustrating. take a break if you must, but PLEASE return to the gg forum sooner, rather than later. im sure you must now this but, you and jojo are VALUED and APPRECIATED members of the gg family.
BTW it was nice of you to not to "throw anyone under the bus" when saying others has leaking issues as well.
but i stopped being afraid of the bus since grade school, and that was a long time ago
BTW it was nice of you to not to "throw anyone under the bus" when saying others has leaking issues as well.
but i stopped being afraid of the bus since grade school, and that was a long time ago
yea yankee, i have had this happen to me as well. the randomness of it is maddening
the problem only happens to mine with the metal tank installed.
I have leaking yankee and I mentioned it numerous times before. But i never thought of it as a problem because I thought I was being sloppy. I requested from Vassilis the o-rings and he sent them to me. I did not install them Yet. Unfortunately I am using my Penelope more than my Ithakas because for me I get more dry hits with Ithaka which is funny I know!! and dual coils are burning my favorite juice. Still I always said that I have to redo my ithaka builds from scratch and I was sure this issue of leaking will go away. I didn't get yet to the frustration point you got to even though one time all the tank was emptied because of these small beads at the slots for a while. But I am sure with 8 Ithakas you must be frustrated. Just breathe man, try the new o-rings and give it time.
For people who are saying you are not supposed to nag or complain, I say that complaining is the challenge that makes the crazy genius engineer who is IMEO always trying to improve the products. We are customers but we care, and IMEO cares for us. If neither cared he can say just fu*k off, if you don't like it don't buy it, and if we didn't care we would have said I'm selling this ..... it doesn't work for me. I complained to IMEO about many things before (NEW brass that i didn't like, horizontal engravings...) and I will keep on complaining.
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For people who are saying you are not supposed to nag or complain, I say that complaining is the challenge that makes the crazy genius engineer who is IMEO always trying to improve the products. We are customers but we care, and IMEO cares for us. If neither cared he can say just fu*k off, if you don't like it don't buy it, and if we didn't care we would have said I'm selling this ..... it doesn't work for me. I complained to IMEO about many things before (NEW brass that i didn't like, horizontal engravings...) and I will keep on complaining.
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thank you thank you thank you aalwani! I appreciate your understanding and care in that post!! I am really hoping that the 17x1 o-rings do the trick... I really do. My/our frustration has been just building since beginning of the year and I have to keep leaving the forum because of certain egomaniacs that like to bully people. It's sad for me because I miss out on good information and then I get all sorts of frustrated and blow. I wish Imeo had fixed the Oring thread and added to use the 17x1 o-ring in the ithaka and maybe I would have just bought that size and this wouldn't have ballooned to this point.
Some people really try to help (thank you gtbb) and yourself and others just want to push you around because you aren't on the praise train. Like most people in the forum, yankee and I were not born with a silver spoon in our mouth and we have over $6000.00 (yes, not a typo) in GG product....not including consumables...we don't have 6 figure jobs...and every penny counts. (and I know there are more out there that have spent more than we have but this is a lot for us). Lately the patience level has been running thin and I wish Imeo, you had said TO ME please try this size 17x1 oring to me instead of just saying a fatter oring will do and there is no issue with the ithaka because I have not kept up on reading and you know this.
I have stated my peace...I haven't said one bad thing about the JustGG... this has always been about attitudes, leaking, wires, and what didn't work for me. I will wait for my 17x1 orings to come (thank you Bruce as yankee requested to save you shipping and just ship with our 3 JustGG's)...and believe me, if it works, I will be the 1st to announce it.
so to those who have been supportive and tried to offer assistance, THANK YOU...
As for Imeo's ingenuity...I never questioned that. Even Einstein has made mistakes though...
Some people really try to help (thank you gtbb) and yourself and others just want to push you around because you aren't on the praise train. Like most people in the forum, yankee and I were not born with a silver spoon in our mouth and we have over $6000.00 (yes, not a typo) in GG product....not including consumables...we don't have 6 figure jobs...and every penny counts. (and I know there are more out there that have spent more than we have but this is a lot for us). Lately the patience level has been running thin and I wish Imeo, you had said TO ME please try this size 17x1 oring to me instead of just saying a fatter oring will do and there is no issue with the ithaka because I have not kept up on reading and you know this.
I have stated my peace...I haven't said one bad thing about the JustGG... this has always been about attitudes, leaking, wires, and what didn't work for me. I will wait for my 17x1 orings to come (thank you Bruce as yankee requested to save you shipping and just ship with our 3 JustGG's)...and believe me, if it works, I will be the 1st to announce it.
so to those who have been supportive and tried to offer assistance, THANK YOU...
As for Imeo's ingenuity...I never questioned that. Even Einstein has made mistakes though...
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And there in lies the solution. If you have a friend with an Ithaka living close by switch your atomisers for a small period of time and see how things work. From the results you should be able to deduce if the device is faulty or your build. It's as simple as that.
And by the way, I'm don't believe people should just shut up if they're having problems. I was the one who was very vocal/negative about the new engravings and I got called out by a lot of people, which is ridiculous. You're a paying customer, you're entitled to voicing an opinion.
I am going to correct Ithaka's o-rings now my dear. I know that some people had issues with leakage and thats why I said 5-6 months ago that all people with a problem can use a 17x1 o-ring and thats why I send this kind of o-ring to my sellers to send it for free to you.
I thought all these months that leakage issue was solved because noone was complaining about leakage. But I saw that you suddenly came on forum complaining about leakage and for more other things together that were not right if you agree. I also understand that all those other things came to your mind because you were very angry with the leakage of your Ithaka. Its human and very logical.
I just hope that we cleared all other things. As for the leakage, Ithaka doesnt leak like other atomizers because of problems in its construction but only because of the o-rings around its pieces. Thats not a serious problem because it can be fixed on the fly. What I mean is that I didnt make a mistake on Ithaka that needs an update or to take back the units.
I didnt try to fool you in any possible way by putting those o-rings on Ithaka, I just did it because my tests show me that with existing o-rings Ithaka doesnt leak at all. And many people like me dont have any problems as you see. But many have, thats why I decided to give you the simple solution. If for example my Ithaka was leaking then I would have put bigger o-rings in first place.
I dont want anyone to have problems with any GG construction. GG has to be just perfect and be sure that if you had a problem that couldnt be fixed, I would send you a new part immediately or I would have taken back all the devices.
I am sure that when you will receive your o-rings you will come back on GG forum like you were before. If not, I will take back your devices to inspect them.
Also I want to tell you that I want you to see the body of Ithaka like 1 piece. Dont unscrew the metal tubes around the clear window because plastic will get ruined and you may have leakage without a reason. You will unscrew them only if you need to replace the clear window.
I thought all these months that leakage issue was solved because noone was complaining about leakage. But I saw that you suddenly came on forum complaining about leakage and for more other things together that were not right if you agree. I also understand that all those other things came to your mind because you were very angry with the leakage of your Ithaka. Its human and very logical.
I just hope that we cleared all other things. As for the leakage, Ithaka doesnt leak like other atomizers because of problems in its construction but only because of the o-rings around its pieces. Thats not a serious problem because it can be fixed on the fly. What I mean is that I didnt make a mistake on Ithaka that needs an update or to take back the units.
I didnt try to fool you in any possible way by putting those o-rings on Ithaka, I just did it because my tests show me that with existing o-rings Ithaka doesnt leak at all. And many people like me dont have any problems as you see. But many have, thats why I decided to give you the simple solution. If for example my Ithaka was leaking then I would have put bigger o-rings in first place.
I dont want anyone to have problems with any GG construction. GG has to be just perfect and be sure that if you had a problem that couldnt be fixed, I would send you a new part immediately or I would have taken back all the devices.
I am sure that when you will receive your o-rings you will come back on GG forum like you were before. If not, I will take back your devices to inspect them.
Also I want to tell you that I want you to see the body of Ithaka like 1 piece. Dont unscrew the metal tubes around the clear window because plastic will get ruined and you may have leakage without a reason. You will unscrew them only if you need to replace the clear window.
Imeo, you know me, if those 17x1 o-rings fix my issue with leaking out the seams, I will be back on to say so...
yes, other issues became issues because of the way the whole thing was handled. I am really tired of being pushed around by certain people because I am honest in my opinions. I will not stay on a forum like that. And I admit I missed a lot of good info because of that. I sang praises about Iatty and that's how I ended up with 12 of them...I never put down any product except the "dirty belly button" referring to brass firing button on an all SS mod and I thought that was a joke and NOT whining. Everyone who knows me knows that I do not like the smell of the brass. (and I do appreciate you changing your mind and sending the ss firing buttons for the SS JustGG)
Communication IS key...and yes, maybe I didn't communicate my best but in my defense, I was tired of hearing that there is no leaking problem...why not just ask...did you try the 17x1 oring??? People shouldn't have to read every single thread to get this info. (Thank you for adding that to the oring thread).
I am a very opinionated person. (just ask yankee...he usually has more patience than I do) I usually shoot from the hip. I usually keep my mouth shut on here because I can't stand the drama...I'm too old to deal with being "poked" by certain people and will usually walk away because my mouth will get me in trouble. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Everyone has the right to an opinion but picking on someone because of it and being disrespectful because someone expresses an opinion is just pathetic and I won't be party to that.
today is a new day...I have my beliefs and I will hold them to myself. I pray the orings work believe me, I want nothing more than to be able to make use of all these Ithakas.
yes, other issues became issues because of the way the whole thing was handled. I am really tired of being pushed around by certain people because I am honest in my opinions. I will not stay on a forum like that. And I admit I missed a lot of good info because of that. I sang praises about Iatty and that's how I ended up with 12 of them...I never put down any product except the "dirty belly button" referring to brass firing button on an all SS mod and I thought that was a joke and NOT whining. Everyone who knows me knows that I do not like the smell of the brass. (and I do appreciate you changing your mind and sending the ss firing buttons for the SS JustGG)
Communication IS key...and yes, maybe I didn't communicate my best but in my defense, I was tired of hearing that there is no leaking problem...why not just ask...did you try the 17x1 oring??? People shouldn't have to read every single thread to get this info. (Thank you for adding that to the oring thread).
I am a very opinionated person. (just ask yankee...he usually has more patience than I do) I usually shoot from the hip. I usually keep my mouth shut on here because I can't stand the drama...I'm too old to deal with being "poked" by certain people and will usually walk away because my mouth will get me in trouble. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Everyone has the right to an opinion but picking on someone because of it and being disrespectful because someone expresses an opinion is just pathetic and I won't be party to that.
today is a new day...I have my beliefs and I will hold them to myself. I pray the orings work believe me, I want nothing more than to be able to make use of all these Ithakas.
I forgot about the windows...I don't take apart the 3 pieces of stainless steel tubes to make the tank...once together they stay together. I don't use the plastic...I hate plastic and refuse to use them if I can help it.
so hopefully taking them all apart and replacing with the 17x1 will do the trick...I don't leak because of the build of the coil or "usually" out the post...just out the seams of the ss tanks and end caps.
so hopefully taking them all apart and replacing with the 17x1 will do the trick...I don't leak because of the build of the coil or "usually" out the post...just out the seams of the ss tanks and end caps.
I ensure you that the o-rings that I suggest you will solve your problem. Its not a problem of construction as I said before, its a problem of o-rings and not in all cases. But I too understand how frustrated the leakage is for all people. And thats why I am wondering how some people vape atomizers that leak!
yankee / Jojobo,
While you are waiting for the new o-rings, have you tried swapping the tanks sections between your Ithakas? (the parts that are leaking)
I was thinking also that it could help if you lube the o-rings, but thinking about it, maybe it could be better if you take out the o-rings, wash them with some soap, dry them before installing again and just lube the threads of the tank section that are leaking.
While you are waiting for the new o-rings, have you tried swapping the tanks sections between your Ithakas? (the parts that are leaking)
I was thinking also that it could help if you lube the o-rings, but thinking about it, maybe it could be better if you take out the o-rings, wash them with some soap, dry them before installing again and just lube the threads of the tank section that are leaking.
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So Imeo, when will you reveal the update for ithaka? Im very exited to see what you come up with this time. My love for ithaka has grown alot since jgg got here. Ithaka's real home is defiently on top of a gg. Love the gg base. I know i need patience, but a little push might bring some info. I know you dying to tell about it
You will understand when you will see penelope klepto. But I have more to show you for Ithaka than what you will see on penelope. Just wait buddy
This swelling could be the reason some don't have leaks and others do. I have used vasoline on all of my gg products for years and have never had an o-ring leak.
Not to sound negative, but swelling is bad in the case of any type of seal not designed for this type of reaction. With o-rings they should be properly sized for a specific application, not grown into it. The swelling a sign of interior deterioration that will ultimately lead to the seals failure.
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