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Discussion in 'Batteries and Chargers' started by Lordron's_Drag, Mar 24, 2019.

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  1. Lordron's_Drag

    Lordron's_Drag Super Member

    Mar 7, 2019
    Karnes city, Texas
    My little buddy just asked me if I needed some batteries for my tools I said no then it dawned on me that they have like 8 Sony 18650s so he brought me for so what's that like 42 batteries
     
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  2. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    They’re a ..... to desolder though, and they might or might not be exactly the right kind.
     
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  3. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Yeah I would save those for when you are incredibly poor, or have a passive death wish or something.

    With that said, since that time may be now, I honestly would just toss them... Are you even sure if they are used or not? Because really your best bet with batteries is to buy them as singles from reputable buyers. In the grand scheme of things they are far from expensive if you factor in safety costs. Really. Don't use them.

    Anna
     
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  4. Lordron's_Drag

    Lordron's_Drag Super Member

    Mar 7, 2019
    Karnes city, Texas
    Came from home Depot in the box all have corroect Sonny vct 5 serial number there not soderd it's like metal tape easy to remove checked with multi meter all the same
     
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  5. Lordron's_Drag

    Lordron's_Drag Super Member

    Mar 7, 2019
    Karnes city, Texas
    Lol they even wieght the same I saw somewhere that the real ones wiegh about 45 grams there all real close if not on the mobey
     
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  6. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Well then congrats I guess. Good luck um, with them.
    Anna
     
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  7. Lordron's_Drag

    Lordron's_Drag Super Member

    Mar 7, 2019
    Karnes city, Texas
    Haha yeah I'm not using them right away I put 2 in my backup it seemed fine
     
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  8. Lordron's_Drag

    Lordron's_Drag Super Member

    Mar 7, 2019
    Karnes city, Texas
    It's a drag last time I put a questionable battery it said something about battery after a few pulls at 30w
     
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  9. CMD-Ky

    CMD-Ky Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 15, 2013
    KY
    This thread should be move to the "Not Advisable" area. If you want to use these batteries, that is fine with me but no one should be influenced to follow your lead.
     
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  10. Jazzman

    Jazzman Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2013
    High Desert, CA
    There are simple tests that can be run on those batteries to at least see if they are safe to test vape, but without that I wouldn't even consider using them really. And make sure if you do use them you try them on a quality regulated mod so you have the best protection possible and errors and condition can be reported and face changing events can be avoided.

    There's nothing wrong with using unknown condition batteries as long as you determine their condition beforehand and they become known condition batteries.

    But... not my face so not my decision I guess.
     
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  11. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    I have to agree with this. :thumb:

    We generally frown upon harvesting batteries from electronic devices, mainly because we can't be entirely sure what they are (could be rewrapped batteries) or where they originally came from or how old they are.

    It's fine if you are willing to risk using those batteries yourself. But don't put the idea into a novice's head that it is ok to harvest batteries.
     
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  12. Lordron's_Drag

    Lordron's_Drag Super Member

    Mar 7, 2019
    Karnes city, Texas
    Potentially all batteries could be re wrapped it's a loaded gun no matter what
     
  13. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    And that's the reason we promote buying our batteries from trusted battery suppliers to greatly reduce the risk of buying re-wrapped batteries. These suppliers go out of their way to insure that the batteries they sell are the real deal, and many test their batteries at their end to insure that they are authentic. They also guarantee that their batteries are authentic.

    North America
    www.liionwholesale.com
    www.imrbatteries.com
    www.illumn.com
    www.rtdvapor.com
    www.batterybro.com
    www.orbtronic.com
    UK
    myepack.co.uk
    www.batteriesplus.co.uk
    www.fogstar.co.uk
    www.nkon.nl
    Welcome to Ecolux. The UK's Battery and accessory specialists. Wide range of authentic leading brands in stock ready for immediate dispatch.


     
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  14. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    Cells harvested from packs have a reputation as unsafe because early on, the only Li-ion packs available were laptop packs. Those contained high-capacity, low drain cells, which were indeed unsuitable for use in vape devices. But these days, laptops have all gone to pouch cells because they weigh less and have a more desirable form factor. It's hard to make a 1/2" thick laptop body if it has to accommodate a 3/4" thick battery pack.

    Nowadays, the packs available to harvest cells from tend to be for power tools, which do contain high-drain cells that are entirely suitable for vaping. Some power tool manufacturers even tell you the type of cells they use in the specs for their packs. E.g. Husqvarna tells you their packs contain either VTC4 or HD2 cells (the specs for the two packs are slightly different). I personally haven't bothered, because there's no money to be saved harvesting them vs. just buying loose cells from a reputable vendor, but if the supply of loose cells dried up, I'd have no compunctions about harvesting them from such packs.
     
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  15. score69

    score69 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 28, 2015
    Athens, GA, USA
    In the whole scheme of things, a few pairs of quality/trusted batteries are inexpensive compared to other vape equipment, especially if you buy premade juice.

    I would harvest batteries only as a last resort. Even a 'free' battery pack wouldn't entice me to harvest the cells unless I was unable to purchase new reliable cells like we can now. Just no reason to take chances when we have the option to buy them new/individually.

    The Sanyo 20700B's I've been using for the past year are still performing very well. I recently added two new ones to the rotation, and I honestly can't tell that much difference between the new/old cells. Even replacing batteries yearly (if you only use a few daily) is rather inexpensive. If you have many sets and rotate through them, they should last quite a while. Just not worth it to scrimp on batteries. Skip Starbucks for a few days and get some fresh cells from a reliable vendor.
     
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  16. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    I agree that power tool batteries that are clearly marked with high amperage ratings are probably OK to salvage and use for vaping, but the general vaping population may not be as knowledgeable about what's good and what's not for a specific vaping load. After all, there's a lot of new vapers who start out with 200W mods and little prior knowledge about lithium cells. Unmarked cells are a guess at best. I'd want a valid manufacturer name and model number I could look up and verify amperage before hitting the high range on my vape.
     
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