Joyetech Evic VT 60 Watt

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Macy from joyetech support just told me via email that "the new version is not existent."

She's been consistently denying that they're working on an updated version, but I really don't know whether or not to believe her. She's also been telling me that all of the issues we've been discussing here are actually working as intended.
I would say that's a good thing! (The few people that are having issues must have just gotten lemons)

I would still like to see them change the Ti coefficient
 
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Macy from joyetech support just told me via email that "the new version is not existent."

She's been consistently denying that they're working on an updated version, but I really don't know whether or not to believe her. She's also been telling me that all of the issues we've been discussing here are actually working as intended.

I believe her. I think it's just different things we haven't seen with a device before.. Dropping ohms is what happens when its fully cooled. The heavier the gauge the longer it takes to fully cool and not reduce in ohms any longer.
 

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Boy, it strikes me that all these threads populated by users scratching their heads to figure out how the various "inferred temperature from resistance change" technologies and firmwares work will be half dead as soon as viable ATP (atomizer temperature probe) hits the market (Innokin?). How will we have fun then? They better come up with a rebuildable topper or we won't have anything much to talk about.
 

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As with the DNA 40 and 350j chip, it is necessary to lock your resistance when both your atty and mod are at ambient temperature.
They all have that in common. Both the chip and the coil have to be at the same temperature to synchronize properly. If the VT is refining it's resistance to the correct resistance of the coil if you set it wrong, then this is an excellent feature that the 350j doesn't have. Be happy with it :) I think they should change the menu to more of a plug and play with less information on the screen and maybe most people will be happier.
 

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Boy, it strikes me that all these threads populated by users scratching their heads to figure out how the various "inferred temperature from resistance change" technologies and firmwares work will be half dead as soon as viable ATP (atomizer temperature probe) hits the market (Innokin?). How will we have fun then? They better come up with a rebuildable topper or we won't have anything much to talk about.
Then they will be discussing the voltage changes in the thermocouple or the variable resistance of the sensor and it's proximity to the coil etc. :)
 

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Unless the atty is dead cold and never been fired for a long time the first res you see is not true. Temps wont be accurate until It refines... It seems the fastest way to get accurate is to somehow power it on and lock the atty firing it as little as possible. Or let it set for 20 minutes.

The DNA200 has something similar and it takes longer than 20 minutes, you're likely correct in your thinking. It's the price one must pay for true accuracy, it's a one time thing per build.
 

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I would say that's a good thing! (The few people that are having issues must have just gotten lemons)

I would still like to see them change the Ti coefficient
I believe her. I think it's just different things we haven't seen with a device before.. Dropping ohms is what happens when its fully cooled. The heavier the gauge the longer it takes to fully cool and not reduce in ohms any longer.
The only problem I have with what she's been telling me is that, at one point, she wrote "this is what we are trying to improve" in one of her emails -- in reference to the production halt and the 30 watt pulse used to detect TC at startup.

That just seems to contradict the rest of her emails that claim that they're not working on an updated version, and that production was only paused so they could catch up on orders.

Like I said, I don't know what to believe at this point. Will there soon be a version with updated firmware? I really don't know...
 

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Oh god yeah I just noticed that it doesn't have any other buttons besides fire!

Oh jesus, mod manufacturers! I thought it was bad enough that no mod maker will consider adding more than three buttons, such that we end up with ridiculous UIs like on the DNA 40 + clones (five-clicks-to-lock-then-hold-up-down-and-fire-for-five-seconds-then-use-up-or-down-then-five-clicks-to-unlock-then-spin-around-once-twice-three-times-while-tapping-out-"please"-"kill-"me"-in-morse-code-with-your-feet.)

Now they're even removing the two buttons we had? Because why have three buttons, when you could a button and a knob! Hell, why even have those? Voice controlled mods! "Up. Up. Up. Up. Up. Up. Up. Up. Down. Fire. Fire. FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Might be a tad hard to tell it to fire while sucking in vapour, of course. I know, have a voice memo feature so you can record your voice saying "Fire", then press a button to play back the recording of "Fire", so the mod can listen to that and start firing!

Hell, that'd still make more sense than Yihi using a gravity sensor for changing watts :)

Still laughing very hard after reading this--hahahahahahahI love that line that say's------------>-Oh jesus, mod manufacturers! I thought it was bad

enough that no mod maker will consider adding more than three buttons, such that we end up with ridiculous UIs like on the DNA 40 + clones (five-

clicks-to-lock-then-hold-up-down-and-fire-for-five-seconds-then-use-up-or-down-then-five-clicks-to-unlock-then-spin-around-once-twice-three-ti

mes-while-tapping-out-"please"-"kill-"me"-in-morse-code-with-your-feet.)
 

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I ordered one from GearBest on June 22 when they were 57.99 full kit. I emailed the 30th and they responded today saying sorry they are out of stock and may have some more in about a week. Anybody know where there is a deal on these? If so, I'll cancel. I can't believe they took money on an out of stock item. I think they took orders before they even stocked them to start with.
 

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I ordered one from GearBest on June 22 when they were 57.99 full kit. I emailed the 30th and they responded today saying sorry they are out of stock and may have some more in about a week. Anybody know where there is a deal on these? If so, I'll cancel. I can't believe they took money on an out of stock item. I think they took orders before they even stocked them to start with.

I dunno where you are located, but in the US, try: VapeNW, Eciggity or MyVaporStore.

In Gearbest's defense, I believe they called it a pre-order. But, the Evic VT will be my last attempt at a pre-order.
 
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I dunno where you are located, but in the US, try: VapeNW, Eciggity or MyVaporStore.

In Gearbest's defense, I believe they called it a pre-order. But, the Evic VT will be my last attempt at a pre-order.
At the time I placed my order, it was showing in stock, nothing about pre-order. Now it is showing backorder. If it was a pre-order, I never would have ordered from them. No mention of a pre-order or planned stock date. A couple of days after I placed my order they went up on price and still didn't mention a preorder. They have no defense. I thoroughly read the ad several times. I'll chesk the others you mentioned but before I didn't see anything but pre-orders and just the basic mod. Thanks
 
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Well, 6 days on a coil (Ni) and it muted the flavor..... So opened it up, put in a new build and let's see how it holds up. This time: AWG 30, 3mm id, 0.10Ohm and 30W.... I'm not the one that cranks it up to max power and hope it all goes well. I like to explore and find the "perfect" spot. Now with the new findings and the possibility to have it jump out of tc i too put my W on the lowest setting in VW mode. Never happened to me yet but had "a sticky firebutton" on a few ocasions. But when it happened it was always with the sleeve on it, might be related. So far and with the help and info from you all for the price it's a nice little box to iniciate tc.

beco
 

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Macy from Joyetech support just told me via email that "the new version is not existent."

She's been consistently denying that they're working on an updated version, but I really don't know whether or not to believe her. She's also been telling me that all of the issues we've been discussing here are actually working as intended.

This is from a groupbuy in Sweden from a company called Sino-cig. Sino-cig says
"Yes we talked.they are updating it"

So what are Joyetech updating? Who can we trust?

Skickat från min D6503 via Tapatalk
 

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If they are updating the 30 watt pulse in VW mode... That's a non issue for me. I've only used it on VW mode once.... To see if that pulse would fry out a nauti coil fit someone (it didn't). I've got my zna50 and variant clone for VW vaping.....tc only on this bad boy :p
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
 
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At the time I placed my order, it was showing in stock, nothing about pre-order. Now it is showing backorder. If it was a pre-order, I never would have ordered from them. No mention of a pre-order or planned stock date. A couple of days after I placed my order they went up on price and still didn't mention a preorder. They have no defense. I thoroughly read the ad several times. I'll chesk the others you mentioned but before I didn't see anything but pre-orders and just the basic mod. Thanks

Bike I told you where I got mine in only 4 days for 53.99. Eciggity discount code - 10percentoff

They ship super fast!
 
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Bike I told you where I got mine in only 4 days for 53.99. Eciggity discount code - 10percentoff

They ship super fast!
I checked them out before but the GB deal for 57.99 full kit IN STOCK deal sounded good enough to sway me. Does eciggity charge shipping on that?
 

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eventually these mods should be programable with a phone app. If they had bluetooth or nfc there wouldn't need to be a cable. Then there could be tons more options than three buttons could handle. To avoid the slipping-out-of-TC issue why not allow it to be optionally programmed so that it won't fire anything below .75 ohm or 1 ohm in Kanthal mode? I've always got my phone nearby so if I could configure a mod with that I wouldn't bother with the buttons. Bluetooth uses very little power, there could be an on/off for that, and the BT chipsets have to be dirt cheap.
 

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eventually these mods should be programable with a phone app. If they had bluetooth or nfc there wouldn't need to be a cable. Then there could be tons more options than three buttons could handle. To avoid the slipping-out-of-TC issue why not allow it to be optionally programmed so that it won't fire anything below .75 ohm or 1 ohm in Kanthal mode? I've always got my phone nearby so if I could configure a mod with that I wouldn't bother with the buttons. Bluetooth uses very little power, there could be an on/off for that, and the BT chipsets have to be dirt cheap.

I like your idea, it's easy to hack into BT and re-program your device. Check out vaping at low temp. and search the crowd for me.....:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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eventually these mods should be programable with a phone app. If they had bluetooth or nfc there wouldn't need to be a cable. Then there could be tons more options than three buttons could handle. To avoid the slipping-out-of-TC issue why not allow it to be optionally programmed so that it won't fire anything below .75 ohm or 1 ohm in Kanthal mode? I've always got my phone nearby so if I could configure a mod with that I wouldn't bother with the buttons. Bluetooth uses very little power, there could be an on/off for that, and the BT chipsets have to be dirt cheap.
When I get the DNA200 I will add Bluetooth to it, cost is around $15 for the necessary Bluetooth LE chip.

I would also like to see more mods with this capability, not where you have to rely on it but for additional control ability.
 
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I checked them out before but the GB deal for 57.99 full kit IN STOCK deal sounded good enough to sway me. Does eciggity charge shipping on that?

Choose free shipping option! I got mine surprisingly fast Hawaii to Chicago. I never saw there mod only go out if stock.

I only got the express kit I didn't want the full kit with a matching clearo!
 
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