Joyetech Evic VT 60 Watt

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So they are for sure spring loaded now? Seems the early versions were not, and some people thought they would implement it in the final release. Seems there was also a revision on the software too. I just wonder if all the early shipped units have all these "updates".

Mine def is spring loaded. I don't know about any other updates.
 

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Mine def is spring loaded. I don't know about any other updates.

Hell, maybe it was another item. I have been watching so many reviews lately on a couple items I am interested in, there really is no telling. I never claim to be the sharpest knife in the set...

Matter of fact, I think it was the Subox unit I am thinking about. Sorry, just ignore my ignorance!

Back to your regularly scheduled program in 3...2...1...
 
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Really? Me likey! Finger almost off the VT trigger, almost. I already have a .... load of Variables and Mechs, maybe I should wait......hmmm.
i think by this fall we'll get a better picture of the new techs coming out and which ones are crap, unless one of my 2 mods breaks down im sitting on the fence till then, yes im a tightass. i have my piggy bank on money i would of spent smoking.........big.......bigger screen tv, damn wife, damn car, damn roof.....tv is on hold, damn
 
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I wonder if the lock is indeed working and the temp of the coil is going below what it is/was locked to.

I believe the resistance lock sets the device resistance to a certain temperature at that certain point. Obviously the resistance can and will change when heated, and I think it will do the same if cooled. If the resistance is lower than when it was locked then the device should know that it is cooler than when it was locked.

I don't have mine yet so I can not test it out, but putting the mod in the fridge or freezer should yield a lower resistance than what it was set to at room temperature. Theoretically it should yield the same vape even though the resistance is lower than what it was locked to. It will just take a little more time to reach the target temp in microsecond(s) or millisecond(s).

Now if the resistance is indeed truly changing then all the device needs to be relocked. I assume that there may be a break in period where the coil will find its happy place and settle in to its final resistance. The pin being responsible for holding the coil legs in full contact isn't ideal IMO and that could be the root of the problem with the resistance changing. Remember we are dealing with hundredths or thousandths of an ohm and any sketchy connection will skew the resistance by a great deal when looking at such small resistance amounts.

Just thinking out loud...

What's happening with the OCC coils is that when the resistance drops and the mod ignores the locked resistance is that you get a different vape even as the temperature is the same. It's not a matter of just waiting longer. The hassle is that when it goes down, I find that I have to move the temp up fom say 420 F to 500 F to get the same vape. But I do think you are right in that the problem is with the sping loaded pin not making a good connection, and that's because the OCC pin is flimsy.
 

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Hell, maybe it was another item. I have been watching so many reviews lately on a couple items I am interested in, there really is no telling. I never claim to be the sharpest knife in the set...

Matter of fact, I think it was the Subox unit I am thinking about. Sorry, just ignore my ignorance!

Back to your regularly scheduled program in 3...2...1...

Correct, the VT has always been spring loaded, the Subbox is not.
 

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What's happening with the OCC coils is that when the resistance drops and the mod ignores the locked resistance is that you get a different vape even as the temperature is the same. It's not a matter of just waiting longer. The hassle is that when it goes down, I find that I have to move the temp up fom say 420 F to 500 F to get the same vape. But I do think you are right in that the problem is with the sping loaded pin not making a good connection, and that's because the OCC pin is flimsy.

I don't think it is the spring loaded pin, I believe it is where the coil mates with the body and pin of the head unit. It is not a crimp, screw, or other type of "mechanical" connection. The pressure of the pin against the rubber grommet is allowing the fluctuation of the resistance I believe. When we are dealing with fractional ohms any "weak" connection is a bad one.
 

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I don't think it is the spring loaded pin, I believe it is where the coil mates with the body and pin of the head unit. It is not a crimp, screw, or other type of "mechanical" connection. The pressure of the pin against the rubber grommet is allowing the fluctuation of the resistance I believe. When we are dealing with fractional ohms any "weak" connection is a bad one.
true, if u could directly wire the coil to the battery u would get the best connection/truest reading.
whatever u put between the coil and battery(510 pin, springs, grommets, type of material/metal etc.) can/will effect ur ohms. even distance from coil leads to battery will effect ohms. the lower and/or accuracy needed to read the ohms the more susceptible to all these things
 
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Speaking of Innokin's new TC, they posted another video today.

If you look closely it looks like there is some sort of sensor on top of the coil. Also, I found the measuring equipment they are using quite interesting.
i noticed that too, but to me it looked like the juice line/level.
but there's no official word on the tech theyre using.
we'll find out soon enough.
 

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I've been using my SX Mini M and VaporShark rDNA 40 with temp control for a few weeks. I have an Evic VT 60 ordered in a co-op. I like the performance of the SX better. It provides a good smooth cool vape at 420 to 450 runnin .087 ohm dual coil in a Lemo II. No dry hits so far with either mods so far. I've vaped the rayon dry and nothing but a diminishing flavor. Power applied doesn't seem to affect vape quality or ramp time to any significant degree. TC works best for me just setting enough power to attain the temp setting so the mod doesn't have to work so hard to maintain it. I haven't uploaded the new update to the SX, but everyone is saying it works better. It's funny that all the points and speculation being discussed here can be found in the SX Mini thread. :) I think TC or TL whatever you choose to call it is here to stay. I ordered the Evic in hopes of getting similar performance with a long charge life.
 

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Just got my evic....zero ohm fluctuations with resistance lock on with the mega tank....i concur, it must be the kanger occ. Those fluctuations are largely unnoticeable on regular kanthal.5 and above coils, but the design is just not suitable for such low ohm TC coils.... Guess I'll get some nickel or titanium wire for my STM rba head :p
Gotta say, this evic feels great in the hand...TC is working great so far. I'm not noticing a harshness or bad vape when wattage is higher then needed and it hits TP quickly...it just keeps on firing around the set temp. I'm using the ni coil first so I'm keeping the temp at or below 430, I have a feeling that's all the wick holes can handle, but so far I'm pleased with the tank also. Air flow is good, haven't gotten a dry hit, or hint of a burnt hit. Flavor is better then I thought it would be (could be that I'm using a juice with strong flavoring, Halo's Malibu)
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Oh, because mine was from the contest....i got a vendor sample :p

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Just got my evic....zero ohm fluctuations with resistance lock on with the mega tank....i concur, it must be the kanger occ. Those fluctuations are largely unnoticeable on regular kanthal.5 and above coils, but the design is just not suitable for such low ohm TC coils.... Guess I'll get some nickel or titanium wire for my STM rba head :p
Gotta say, this evic feels great in the hand...TC is working great so far. I'm not noticing a harshness or bad vape when wattage is higher then needed and it hits TP quickly...it just keeps on firing around the set temp. I'm using the ni coil first so I'm keeping the temp at or below 430, I have a feeling that's all the wick holes can handle, but so far I'm pleased with the tank also. Air flow is good, haven't gotten a dry hit, or hint of a burnt hit. Flavor is better then I thought it would be (could be that I'm using a juice with strong flavoring, Halo's Malibu)
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
Nice win! Maybe I should have gotten a full kit from the co-op. I was hearing the atty wasn't so great so I only ordered the mod. I like the way they look too.
 

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I got mine today, and not a moment too soon, as my iStick 50W has been returned for replacement because of the auto-fire issue.

Anyway, I was super excited to start using the new eVic VT, but upon unboxing, I was meet with a couple issues;

1. the paint is scuffed.... a device that boasts it's "race car" finish shouldn't arrive scuffed.

2. My OLED screen has a long scratch on it.

3. The included Ni coil is improperly wound. I don't know if it will even work

I am contemplating whether I can live with these problems, or whether I should return it. However, the place I bought it from only has yellow left in stock, and maybe they won't even have any by the time they receive my return.

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The screen, does it have a protective skin on it? Kinda looks that way. See if there is, because Istick had one that you would never know was there. I would just push that coil over, should be fine. And the scuff would bother me, I'd probably either live with or try to buff out with rubbing compound. I'm pretty gentle with my stuff, but invariably, stuff happens. But that's me. I love the look of it, but I already put the stupid sleeve on it to protect it.
 

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The very thing that has prevented me from purchasing a subox. The price is right but no springy thingy?......come on kanger...really?


Exactly, not including a spring loaded pin in this day and age is a major mistake. I will not buy a device that doesn't have a spring loaded pin.
 
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