I would love to think it was a mechanical issue, (I can fix mechanical issues!) but mine changes resistance when it's locked! That's got to be a glitch...I think!?!...(see sig)
Joyetech Evic VT 60 Watt
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Cool man, yeah there's all different kinds of way to adjust your vape to get similar results.
I've got the ti to try. I hope my battery life doesn't go down with the lower ohms... I would hope it would be the same or more with tp.. But in the past the lower the ohms the faster the batteries run down. I guess I'll find out.
Hello, Alaskavaper her. I have a delimna that I would like some opinions on please. I ordered my Evic vt last week and it arrived yesterday and I unboxed it this morning. I had seen PBusrardos review shortly after I placed my order and was happy his review was largely positive, giving it a thumbs up. Because this is my first TC device, that made me feel like I had made a good decision. After unboxing this morning I checked Busardo'ss web site "tasteyourjuice.com- what a shock! He changed his review to thumbs down today after following up email complaints from some knowlegable Evic users that were having problems with burnt wicks when using the device under 30 watts, which wattage levels Busardo had not used in his original review. He therefore ran his extensive scope tests at the under 30 watt level and he found that the problem is use in that range. Apparently at these lower ranges in both watt and TC modes the device puts out a burst of 8.4 volts for about 1.28 seconds and thereby causes a burnt taste from the wick. This seems unacceptable and a flaw in the devices performance. Since I have not used the Evic yet, only unboxed it, I am stuck with the question of returning it or wait for Evic to address this matter. It is a clearly authenticated problem and Busardo has altered his opinion from the thumbs up to thumbs down now. Does anyone using the device have any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance.
Does anybody have any idea how to trigger an atomizer reset on this thing?
I've disconnected the atomizer. Pressed the fire button multiple times. I've tried pressing it for a long time. I've let them both sit apart for an hour I've done everything i can think of. I've friends it off on. Every mixture of how to power off. Rest. And let the device get to room temp there is.
I've tried changing temp. I've tried changing power methods. I've tried locking and unlocking resistance
I'm absoltiy at my wits' end. The first few times it changed as it should. Now it won't allow me to reset it no matter what I do
-* unscrew. Power of. screw in. Power on does not work to reset the atomizer
I've disconnected the atomizer. Pressed the fire button multiple times. I've tried pressing it for a long time. I've let them both sit apart for an hour I've done everything i can think of. I've friends it off on. Every mixture of how to power off. Rest. And let the device get to room temp there is.
I've tried changing temp. I've tried changing power methods. I've tried locking and unlocking resistance
I'm absoltiy at my wits' end. The first few times it changed as it should. Now it won't allow me to reset it no matter what I do
-* unscrew. Power of. screw in. Power on does not work to reset the atomizer
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I don't get any burnt taste... Don't let any negative reviews sway you till you try it yourself. You have it in hand vape it!
Pbusardo is easily scewed by others opinions. Hence he change from positive to negative. This device was not made to run high ohm coils at low power.
It will not just burst 8.3v into your build it will test fire it at 30w to see the response. If you build with heavier gauge wire the pulse won't be so hot. If you have more mass in the wire it will take more power to reach the same temprature.
If your experienced in building its not a problem that can't be finessed with different coils and still get the result you want.
This is a high powered device, designed for subohm/ high wattage.
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The VT fires a minimum of 30 watts in TC mode so it's not really geared for low wattage vapers. It will fire much lower in VW mode, but if you normally vape 25 watts or more you won't even notice the short burst of power at start up. So it really depends on what level of power you're most comfortable with.
Thanks for the replies. I usually vape at 35- 45 watts on kanthal with my Sigelli 150 and STM and VCT- with an rda 24 ga at at 90-100 watts at .8ohms on my big Buddha on a kung Fu series box As this is my first TC I am probably too apprehensive. Unlikely to be under 30 watts so I will just get on with it. I will be posting my experiences as I get familiar with this new device. As the Chinese proverb says "may you live in interesting times", and perhaps this is what they mean. lol
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I am not sure I would set the Joyetech to 60W because of the fixed pre-heat I note in 2.3. But 30W is fine.
As Croak pointed out towards the beginning of the thread, Joyetech likely set a lower limit of 30W to avoid newbies trying TC out at 8 or 12W, not considering that they were now firing into super-sub-ohm coils such as 0.12Ω for Ni200. 12W into 0.12Ω is 1.2V and will barely tickle the coil.
- TC builds are almost always sub-ohm, and Ni200 is super-sub-ohm.
- Most Ni200 builds won't ever go above 0.20Ω, and 0.10Ω is common - much lower than most people ever vape Kanthal
- Titanium goes a bit higher - it is possible to reach 1.0Ω with a self-built Titanium coil - but a typical build is still 0.5Ω or less
- TC is not a set wattage like VW. Just because it starts firing at 30W doesn't mean the whole vape will be 30W. Far from it.
- In fact in many TC mods, the configured wattage really only says "on a cold coil, how fast do you want to get to the target temp?"
- on a warm/hot coil it means nothing, because the mod will start with the required wattage to maintain temp - never applying the set wattage at all if it's too much
- This is not quite true for the Joyetech which does seem to apply that initial wattage for a set period, regardless of current coil temp (hence it constantly pushing over-temp in my temp testing graph, during continuous firing)
- But the same principle applies - it's only 30W for a very short while, then it quickly drops to the wattage needed to maintain temp
- In fact in many TC mods, the configured wattage really only says "on a cold coil, how fast do you want to get to the target temp?"
I am not sure I would set the Joyetech to 60W because of the fixed pre-heat I note in 2.3. But 30W is fine.
As Croak pointed out towards the beginning of the thread, Joyetech likely set a lower limit of 30W to avoid newbies trying TC out at 8 or 12W, not considering that they were now firing into super-sub-ohm coils such as 0.12Ω for Ni200. 12W into 0.12Ω is 1.2V and will barely tickle the coil.
Carey BriscusoI "got an email from our supplier in China saying the eVic-VT production has stopped until July 9th due to a "component shortage". I wonder if it really means they are tweaking the firmware and re-flashing all the units before shipping them out to vendors? They really should have included a firmware upgrade utility like you mentioned in the review. What were they thinking? They pioneered that idea years ago with the first eVic. China is so ......n frustrating. It's almost like they are trolling us all on purpose..."
I was riding in the car (15min 25c ), I leaved with .33 and back with .30
VT was locked
hmm... again temp related.
I am not getting a very good impression about this device from this thread...Seems like like there are some good ideas but maybe not the best execution..
Agreed. All stuff that could be fixed with a firmware upgrade had they made it upgradeable (inaccurate temp and resistance issues and such, all relating to tc).
Those issues combined with the internal batteries makes me very glad I didn't jump on the pre order wagon with this device.
I wonder if the istick 40Tc will use the same chip and have the same issues.
Those issues combined with the internal batteries makes me very glad I didn't jump on the pre order wagon with this device.
I wonder if the istick 40Tc will use the same chip and have the same issues.
I would think initial demand was much higher than anticipated and with that they've used all of the parts back through the warehouse... not that uncommon in mfg... not desired, but not that uncommon.
If you consider how many people are complaining (some without even using it) and how many units have been sold (bunches) I would have to say those experiencing problems may not be as numerous (although more vocal) than those who have learned to dial it in for a satisfactory vape... some of those dissatisfied consumers have actually come back to say they found the problem not in the VT but in their atty/coil.
As with all purchases, you really shouldn't purchase until you feel comfortable with it and are willing to spend some time sorting out any TC issues and experimenting to find your best vape... take your time - TC is here to stay (till the next new tech is here anyway.)
I'm not having a problem with locking in the resistance, the warming up the cold coil, or the performance of the device. Granted, the eGo One coils are juice starved, but they fixed the airflow. Not every atty works properly on it, but some things are a tradeoff - advanced devices have certain requirements and not all attys will fill the bill on all devices. Even experienced coil builders sometimes have to go back and fix their coils - it happens. I'm happy with my VT and many others are too.
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Just wanted to point out that Busardo did NOT give the Evic VT a "thumbs up" in his initial review. He gave it a "wait for Evic to make improvements". Now that Busardo has investigated and confirmed the fact that there the unit is going to fire at 30 watts for over half a second and fire above your selected setting for over a full second unless your setting is already at 30 watts or more, he has changed his "wait" to "thumbs down".
Offering of advice to always use the device at 30 watts or above is not a solution; it's just a description of those who would not be affected by the problem.
Offering of advice to always use the device at 30 watts or above is not a solution; it's just a description of those who would not be affected by the problem.
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I dont need telling about TC, I have 6 TC mods and counting...I also realise that forums are where you hear the bad bits of course. It just seems to me that there have been some bad choices here..the 30W minimum being one of themm I dont need joyetech to tell me how to do TC vaping frankly. I guess some do..
Sorry TheotherSteveS... wasn't trying to imply you didn't know anything about TC. Just saying the way the device performs doesn't ruin it for me. I figure I'll adapt to the device rather than expect it to do the same thing all the others do.
Hey @Teach !!
No offence taken at all...although looking at my post, I can see that you might have got that impression. My bad..so sorry!!
I agree with what you say. I mean dont get me wrong, they should be applauded for embracing Ti so wholeheartedly in my opinion. In many ways its a nice device and I am still not ruling out the possibility that one might end up in my hand at some point!
The 30W rule in some ways is a good idea as many fail with TC by not turning the gas up enough and become fascinated with the idea that 450F actually has anything really to do with the temp of their juice at the point of vaporisation! Its a shame really...Anyway, sounds like JT are backing off on production perhaps to fix a few issues and maybe slap a firmware update in. Annoying for early adopters but I have suffered that one a few times. Most recently with the heatvape Invader fiasco...
The VT is a great start and will only get better I reckon!
Cheers
steve
The point is that you shouldn't have to adapt to the device (whether setting a temperature that's 70 degrees offset or perhaps having to reseat your atomizer occasionally to get an accurate resistance base line) but it should adapt to you and suit varying styles of vaping- -especially a device like this that's geared towards beginners.
There shouldn't have to be tricks you have to learn to get the device to function as advertised.
There shouldn't have to be tricks you have to learn to get the device to function as advertised.
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