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[tayone415]

I don't think this the same version, but I imagine the form is roughly the same. Is it possible to take it all apart?

I think there are some different pieces that are on that version, unfortunately I can't take everything apart, with that stupid AFC ring stuck.

 

[tayone415]

I would hold the base right under the ring with pliers and use a micro torch to focus the heat at one spot on the ring. The ring will expand and then you should be able to turn it with another pair of pliers. If the ring cools and stops turning repete. If the internal threads are screwed you might have to find the right spot and leave the ring stuck there. The heat is going to trash the color.

I don't want to ruin the finish, I want to get it unstuck and keep it looking new and either use it or try to sell it to someone.

 

[RaceGun59]

I don't think this the same version, but I imagine the form is roughly the same. Is it possible to take it all apart?

That ring doesn't appear to have any threads so fi the ring won't turn it's gauled to the base. Could of had a burr around one of the drilled hole and when the ring was slid down over the base, the burr could be wedged between the two pieces. I can see why they might complain about the ring being loose as only friction between the ring and the base holds the ring where you turn it.

 

[tayone415]

That ring doesn't appear to have any threads so fi the ring won't turn it's gauled to the base. Could of had a burr around one of the drilled hole and when the ring was slid down over the base, the burr could be wedged between the two pieces. I can see why they might complain about the ring being loose as only friction between the ring and the base holds the ring where you turn it.

I didn't mean adjust the post, I meant remove it. If you can't get the ring to turn, maybe you can get it off.

I'm not sure that would do anything if I did? The ring is under the deck and I just noticed the AFC ring in the pic doesn't use any threading, where mine does.

 

[RaceGun59]

I don't want to ruin the finish, I want to get it unstuck and keep it looking new and either use it or try to sell it to someone.

I can understand that. Looking at the photo Ocelot put up and your photo you might take a very thin knife blade and try to wiggle it between the bottom edge of the ring and the base. Working your way around it might move the ring up. I'd bet when it was assembled the first time the ring got "pushed down" instead of sliding down that's why you could never get it to move.

 

[The Ocelot]

I'm not sure that would do anything if I did? The ring is under the deck and I just noticed the AFC ring in the pic doesn't use any threading, where mine does.

I'm not sure it would do anything either, but I tend to try everything I can think of when what is supposed to solve a problem doesn't. I was thinking it might give some wiggle room.

What about soaking it in WD40, Liquid Wrench, etc.?

 

[tayone415]

I can understand that. Looking at the photo Ocelot put up and your photo you might take a very thin knife blade and try to wiggle it between the bottom edge of the ring and the base. Working your way around it might move the ring up. I'd bet when it was assembled the first time the ring got "pushed down" instead of sliding down that's why you could never get it to move.

I'm sure what happened, he screwed the AFC together and I never even screwed the tank together, I put it back in the box, since I was worried the chimney might seize up again.

 

[RaceGun59]

I'm not sure that would do anything if I did? The ring is under the deck and I just noticed the AFC ring in the pic doesn't use any threading, where mine does.

Just went and looked at your photo again. The threads above the ring are for the next section to screw on to because their outside diameter look way smaller then the inside diameter of the ring.
I still believe the AFC ring just slides over the threads and down until it touches the ring around the base.

Hard to measure diameter from a photo, but the perspective makes it look smaller.

PS> Most vape gear has some very fine pitch threads and it takes almost nothing to get in those threads to seize things up. Stuff screws together and then won't come apart.

PSPS> I've tossed out all the old school tricks I know. Hope something solves your problem.

 

[tayone415]

I'm not sure it would do anything either, but I tend to try everything I can think of when what is supposed to solve a problem doesn't. I was thinking it might give some wiggle room.

What about soaking it in WD40, Liquid Wrench, etc.?

I thought about it, I still have PB Blaster left but I was kind of iffy about doing it since it wouldn't work on my Vanilla lock ring after soaking it for 2 days straight and if any residue was left behind.

 

[tayone415]

Just went and looked at your photo again. The threads above the ring are for the next section to screw on to because their outside diameter look way smaller then the inside diameter of the ring.
I still believe the AFC ring just slides over the threads and down until it touches the ring around the base.

Not sure if you can the threads of the black version where the AFC hole is???

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0251/7699/files/fogger-4.0-1_large.jpg?2204

 

[tayone415]

Just went and looked at your photo again. The threads above the ring are for the next section to screw on to because their outside diameter look way smaller then the inside diameter of the ring.
I still believe the AFC ring just slides over the threads and down until it touches the ring around the base.

Hard to measure diameter from a photo, but the perspective makes it look smaller.

PS> Most vape gear has some very fine pitch threads and it takes almost nothing to get in those threads to seize things up. Stuff screws together and then won't come apart.

PSPS> I've tossed out all the old school tricks I know. Hope something solves your problem.

Thank you, and out of all my gear both authentic and even old clones, I've never seen threading with such poor and pathetic threading, I should of tested the threading before I bought it.

 

[Susan~S]

Hi tayone!

Sorry you are still dealing with your problem. I finally got my chimney unstuck. I had the same problem awhile ago with my airflow ring. It got tighten down with all the fiddling I was doing trying to tighten/loosen parts/pieces with only one working hand.

My airflow band is threaded. I had to:

1. take the small band off (right above the airflow ring)
2. put the base in a stationary clamp
3. grasp the knurled airflow ring with plyers and turn (making sure I was turning it in the right direction)

That worked for me!

 

[Bernard Marx]

Friggin' thing!

 

[RaceGun59]

Hi tayone!

Sorry you are still dealing with your problem. I finally got my chimney unstuck. I had the same problem awhile ago with my airflow ring. It got tighten down with all the fiddling I was doing trying to tighten/loosen parts/pieces with only one working hand.

My airflow band is threaded. I had to:

1. take the small band off (right above the airflow ring)
2. put the base in a stationary clamp
3. grasp the knurled airflow ring with plyers and turn (making sure I was turning it in the right direction)

That worked for me!

Thanks Susan. I have been looking at RBAs. Seems I will pretty much leave this one off my list. I hope that help tayone415 solve his issue.

 

[crxess]

Your Pic actually Bites. Poor lighting and bad angle.

Now, is this a V4 - with Air Hole in ring?
OR - Is this a V4 Plus with threaded AFC that exposes a hole in the base? (i.e. Loong Fogger V4+)

If it is a V4 Plus, you may as well attempt to fully remove the ring (threading upward) and check/correct threading.

Needed Tools:
Good Rubber Grip(palm/fingers) Gloves
Strength(clamping and twisting)

Both Parts of unit should be gripped between the thumb and forefinger tightly while twisting as hard as needed to unthread the ring.

Once you get this corrected you really need to learn your own equipment and how to maintain it. This will avoid all the running back and forth frustrations and wasted extra time.

Best of luck!

watch 6:30 in

 

[Susan~S]

Thanks Susan. I have been looking at RBAs. Seems I will pretty much leave this one off my list. I hope that help tayone415 solve his issue.

I have the Fogger v4.4 (or as is pictured in the above video) v4 plus. Mine is threaded very well and my problems are all due to a "one handed disability". If I could use both hands I would not have experienced "over tightening" issues.

If you really like an open draw, this RTA is really great. I can hold it in one hand, adjust the airflow ring from totally closed to fully open, and vape on it. All of this one-handed!

 

[Ca Ike]

I've had so many issues with my fogger I gave up on it. It's really just a bad design all around from the wrap around posts that are too small to the air holes flush in the deck allowing easy leaking. Not to mention the poor quality machining. I should have passed on this one just because it's a Yiloong product and everything they make is crap needing end user modding or finish work to get it working right. IMO get your money back if you can.

 

[tayone415]

I've had so many issues with my fogger I gave up on it. It's really just a bad design all around from the wrap around posts that are too small to the air holes flush in the deck allowing easy leaking. Not to mention the poor quality machining. I should have passed on this one just because it's a Yiloong product and everything they make is crap needing end user modding or finish work to get it working right. IMO get your money back if you can.

I'm going back to the store again as soon as I get off work, I'm hoping I can exchange it for something.

 

[tayone415]

Hi tayone!

Sorry you are still dealing with your problem. I finally got my chimney unstuck. I had the same problem awhile ago with my airflow ring. It got tighten down with all the fiddling I was doing trying to tighten/loosen parts/pieces with only one working hand.

My airflow band is threaded. I had to:

1. take the small band off (right above the airflow ring)
2. put the base in a stationary clamp
3. grasp the knurled airflow ring with plyers and turn (making sure I was turning it in the right direction)

That worked for me!

Hi Susan,

I don't know but last night there was no getting it off even one of the guys at the shop couldn't, I left the fogger in the box, in my jacket in a hot car for about 8 hours and went back to the shop, and another guy was able to take it off by hand somehow, some what easily.

Your Pic actually Bites. Poor lighting and bad angle.

Now, is this a V4 - with Air Hole in ring?
OR - Is this a V4 Plus with threaded AFC that exposes a hole in the base? (i.e. Loong Fogger V4+)

If it is a V4 Plus, you may as well attempt to fully remove the ring (threading upward) and check/correct threading.

Needed Tools:
Good Rubber Grip(palm/fingers) Gloves
Strength(clamping and twisting)

Both Parts of unit should be gripped between the thumb and forefinger tightly while twisting as hard as needed to unthread the ring.

Once you get this corrected you really need to learn your own equipment and how to maintain it. This will avoid all the running back and forth frustrations and wasted extra time.

Best of luck!

watch 6:30 in

thanks, I'll be sure to watch that video.

I have the Fogger v4.4 (or as is pictured in the above video) v4 plus. Mine is threaded very well and my problems are all due to a "one handed disability". If I could use both hands I would not have experienced "over tightening" issues.

If you really like an open draw, this RTA is really great. I can hold it in one hand, adjust the airflow ring from totally closed to fully open, and vape on it. All of this one-handed!

I love an airy draw, and I tried someone else's fogger before, and for me it is tighter than I like, but I just need something when I'm driving or when dripping isn't convenient. I'm not really a tank person anymore, once I started dripping and drilling out larger airflow holes, it's not easy to go back.

 

[Ryedan]

I don't have a Fogger. I notice that some of the rings have quite thin walls.

I have a Nemesis which has a very thin lock ring. I can screw in gently all the way to unlocked, so the top of the ring is snugged up on the body of the mod and if I grip the lock ring tight in my fingers I can't unscrew it. What happens is the ring gets bent out of round and the threads tighten up. What I do then is put three finger tips on the ring and squeeze lightly. If my fingers slip on the ring without it turning I slowly increase pressure until it turns.

I don't know if this is going to help you tayone41, but it's all I've got