Ok it all makes sense now
Sounds like you need a longer needle with a small U or L bend at the top....But good luck bending one with out kinking it.
Sounds like its working ok as is though, I just like to complicate things
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Ok it all makes sense now
Sounds like you need a longer needle with a small U or L bend at the top....But good luck bending one with out kinking it.
Sounds like its working ok as is though, I just like to complicate things
keep in mind, a bottle with a needle that extends up through the connector into the center pin of the rba is only one method of feeding. Reo's, Bogger's, RSM's, etc. (and the ones I built) feed to a tube pressed into the center pin of the mod connector (nothing sticks up out of the mods center pin, it's finished flush). Needled bottles afford quick flavor changes but can leak (because of the loose fitting needle), the Reo method, flavor change is more of a PITA but tend to not leak as much, and if you o ring it, the only place it can leak is out of the side airhole/dt...again, pros/cons to both.
Got another email from Etnico UK today, confirming they're putting up for sale shortly the new natural 2mm/12 hemp twine.
Available from next Tuesday, in 85mt balls (260ft) or loose lengths starting at 10mt (30ft).
So we Europeans eventually get local sourcing for a 2mm/12... about time!
Note: NOT tested yet, buy at your own risk for the time being
Available from next Tuesday, in 85mt balls (260ft) or loose lengths starting at 10mt (30ft).
So we Europeans eventually get local sourcing for a 2mm/12... about time!
Note: NOT tested yet, buy at your own risk for the time being
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Got another email from Etnico UK today, confirming they're putting up for sale shortly the new natural 2mm/12 hemp twine.
Available from next Tuesday, in 85mt balls (260ft) or loose lengths starting at 10mt (30ft).
So we Europeans eventually get local sourcing for a 2mm/12... about time!
Note: NOT tested yet, buy at your own risk for the time being
Got the same email, but it would be nice to find someone who has tried it to compare it to the LovePedal stuff before I place an order. Have wasted so much money trying various wicking materials, and would be nice to settle on one finally.
That 2mm has been sourced by Etnico according to our specifications (2mm, 12 strand, twisted, natural), but yes agree we didn't test it yet.
FWIW their 1mm/7 was almost up to par with Lovepdal's one, good enough in other words, so I'm confident (hoping) the new 2mm should be good enough as well.
Gonna buy some next week, will let you know.
FWIW their 1mm/7 was almost up to par with Lovepdal's one, good enough in other words, so I'm confident (hoping) the new 2mm should be good enough as well.
Gonna buy some next week, will let you know.
Thats really great XP. Many Thanks for that. I didn't know about the specs.
Look forward to hearing how you get on with it.
Here is my new build requested by Ken B
On my previous attempt with the 4x4S (4 wicks - 4Strands each wick) I get swelling and the build ends up not producing that much vapor or taste after 1-2 days due to swelling.
Here is the screw I use to make perfect size coils
1st step make the coil and squish it down to your desired size. I usually like mine sitting almost touching.
In this build instead of using 4 wicks.
I use 1 JOINT wick. I joined 2 of the lovepedal 1mm 7S wick to make 1 wick with 14S. I take the ends of 2 wicks and hold them with my index and thumb. I untwist the bottom wick. I make sure all the strands are completely untwisted and pretty straight. I follow that up with the top wick while holding the untwisted wick with my middle finger. I then put the 2 untwisted parts together and it usually twist back up nicely but you can twist it a little more.
Do a little section at a time
here are pictures of the 1st section then the second section
Now you needle the newly made wick through your coil and proceed from there
I add a feeder wick to this build
Here is size comparison of the 4/40 screw, 2 JOINT (2x1mm lovepeadl), 3 JOINT (3x1mm lovepedal), and the new 2mm 12S lovepedal. Sizes are from top to bottom
On my previous attempt with the 4x4S (4 wicks - 4Strands each wick) I get swelling and the build ends up not producing that much vapor or taste after 1-2 days due to swelling.
Here is the screw I use to make perfect size coils
1st step make the coil and squish it down to your desired size. I usually like mine sitting almost touching.
In this build instead of using 4 wicks.
I use 1 JOINT wick. I joined 2 of the lovepedal 1mm 7S wick to make 1 wick with 14S. I take the ends of 2 wicks and hold them with my index and thumb. I untwist the bottom wick. I make sure all the strands are completely untwisted and pretty straight. I follow that up with the top wick while holding the untwisted wick with my middle finger. I then put the 2 untwisted parts together and it usually twist back up nicely but you can twist it a little more.
Do a little section at a time
here are pictures of the 1st section then the second section
Now you needle the newly made wick through your coil and proceed from there
I add a feeder wick to this build
Here is size comparison of the 4/40 screw, 2 JOINT (2x1mm lovepeadl), 3 JOINT (3x1mm lovepedal), and the new 2mm 12S lovepedal. Sizes are from top to bottom
hello Mack
Superb tutorial, and pics. Very clear and precise instructions, and very very helpful. Couple of questions if I may.
I assume that the needle is threaded through afterwards just to add support to the coil for positioning.
When the wick needs replacing, is it possible to thread a new wick of this type through the coil in situ?
Out of the 3 wick types (2 Joint, 3 Joint, and 2mm which have you found to be the best?
Very grateful for the effort you put into this.
Regards, and thanks again.
Superb tutorial, and pics. Very clear and precise instructions, and very very helpful. Couple of questions if I may.
I assume that the needle is threaded through afterwards just to add support to the coil for positioning.
When the wick needs replacing, is it possible to thread a new wick of this type through the coil in situ?
Out of the 3 wick types (2 Joint, 3 Joint, and 2mm which have you found to be the best?
Very grateful for the effort you put into this.
Regards, and thanks again.
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Ken I am still in testing phase. I have not been building many heads lately. Today with the method i just used. I used 32awg because I was over at a friend's house and thats all that he had. The coil seems to heat up too fast and stays too hot so I couldn't do my normal vape pace, which is about 20 pulls all over 6 seconds each. I get about 8 before I get a slight burnt taste. Not as profound as with silica but with a quick shake of the protank I get a bubble and its good again.
If you want rethread a new wick without having to replace the coil, instead of using the needle of the top but it on the bottom. You will have a higher sitting wick and coil. When you add a feeder wick it prevents any chance of the coil hitting the top piece. My friend was getting shorts and kept asking me why and since he uses oval coil thats the only reason I could think of. He added it and it solved it.
I just rebuilt using 30awg. I did a JOINT wick 2x1mm 7S + 4S. I notice that the JOINT 2x1mm needs time to expand. I have been getting hit or miss with expansion. Sometimes I get it and sometimes I don't. When I don't I dry out all the juice that is in contact with the coil and when that happens I get a slight burnt taste.
If you want rethread a new wick without having to replace the coil, instead of using the needle of the top but it on the bottom. You will have a higher sitting wick and coil. When you add a feeder wick it prevents any chance of the coil hitting the top piece. My friend was getting shorts and kept asking me why and since he uses oval coil thats the only reason I could think of. He added it and it solved it.
I just rebuilt using 30awg. I did a JOINT wick 2x1mm 7S + 4S. I notice that the JOINT 2x1mm needs time to expand. I have been getting hit or miss with expansion. Sometimes I get it and sometimes I don't. When I don't I dry out all the juice that is in contact with the coil and when that happens I get a slight burnt taste.
Hi Mack.
I have been getting the same problem with expansion since using hemp. I do like it very much, but you never know how much it will expand, although mine seems to never stop expanding, and I keep pulling strands out until I have lost count of how many are left..........lol
I am now trying a bigger screw size, with less turns and will utilize your wick method. I only have 32awg at the moment, so that will have to do. This time I will start with 2x1mm JOINT and go from there. Very appreciative of your help here. Will keep you posted anyway.
Many Thanks.
I have been getting the same problem with expansion since using hemp. I do like it very much, but you never know how much it will expand, although mine seems to never stop expanding, and I keep pulling strands out until I have lost count of how many are left..........lol
I am now trying a bigger screw size, with less turns and will utilize your wick method. I only have 32awg at the moment, so that will have to do. This time I will start with 2x1mm JOINT and go from there. Very appreciative of your help here. Will keep you posted anyway.
Many Thanks.
Ken
i just rebuilt earlier using the 2 joint wick that I added 4 more strands. It was too tight fitting the 4/40 coil so i took out another 2 strands and that seems to be just right. Its vaping great. No feeder wick.
i just rebuilt earlier using the 2 joint wick that I added 4 more strands. It was too tight fitting the 4/40 coil so i took out another 2 strands and that seems to be just right. Its vaping great. No feeder wick.
Hi Mack.
I built a new larger coil using as close as I could get to a 4/40, and wicked using your joint method with 2x1mm hemp. I left it overnight to swell, and this morning took out 2 strands as I thought it was too tight. I also opened out the slots in the cup to avoid any choke points. Well, it LOOKS ok now, but all I am getting is burnt hemp taste. It's strange, because the wick inside the coil seems to be very wet, so I assume it is getting adequate supply of juice. Coil is 2.5ohms and wattage at 5.5-6.0w Will keep on trying anyway.
Appreciate your input.
I built a new larger coil using as close as I could get to a 4/40, and wicked using your joint method with 2x1mm hemp. I left it overnight to swell, and this morning took out 2 strands as I thought it was too tight. I also opened out the slots in the cup to avoid any choke points. Well, it LOOKS ok now, but all I am getting is burnt hemp taste. It's strange, because the wick inside the coil seems to be very wet, so I assume it is getting adequate supply of juice. Coil is 2.5ohms and wattage at 5.5-6.0w Will keep on trying anyway.
Appreciate your input.
Ken
If you have access to metric drill bits I would order a set of drill bit size 2mm-3mm
New 16pc Micro Drill Bit Mini Set High Speed Metric Sizes 2 00 mm 3 00 Mm | eBay
I am getting this this just to play around with. I think the 4/40 is a slightly bigger then 2mm. I get leakage if i just use 2 joint wicks but with the extra 2 strands I don't get any.
If you have access to metric drill bits I would order a set of drill bit size 2mm-3mm
New 16pc Micro Drill Bit Mini Set High Speed Metric Sizes 2 00 mm 3 00 Mm | eBay
I am getting this this just to play around with. I think the 4/40 is a slightly bigger then 2mm. I get leakage if i just use 2 joint wicks but with the extra 2 strands I don't get any.
Okay I think I got lucky in the head I built with the joint wick. I tried that same method with the 4/40 screw and I am getting choked out. I will try a joint with some more strands pulled out and 1 feeder wick.
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It does seem to be a very fine balance needed to get this hemp working right, but I will keep experimenting. Thanks for the tip on the drill set mack.
With the drill set you can use the same amount of wicks without pulling strands. Just change coil size. I think I am getting somewhere though. I pulled 3 strands from the joint wick slightly twisted. And my fender wick is only 5 strands. I didn't want to choke the side opening for the wicks. Just about enough room so when it swells it won't be choking.
I tried Mackhaio's method of taking strands apart and rolling into one bigger wick before putting it inside coil circle, and it works fantastically well. It performs much better than folded 4x1mm wick setup, and it's actually easier to prepare the wick as well since I don't have to go through the process of putting the wicks through a needle and making a cut on one end after in order to free the needle.
Taking strands apart and rolling them into one wick was easier than I thought, and I didn't really have to take every single strands apart either. I disassembed each of my 1mm wick into about 2-3 sets of wicks, do that four times and get 8-12 set of strand bunch, and just rolled them together tight on my finger and that was enough. Now I don't even have to take few strands out after putting the wick through to avoid strangling because they're more compact this way. Juice transfers much better than 4x1mm setup.
I've only done this on my A7 so far but soon will implement on Vapeonly and see how it performs.
Special thanks to Mackhaio.
Taking strands apart and rolling them into one wick was easier than I thought, and I didn't really have to take every single strands apart either. I disassembed each of my 1mm wick into about 2-3 sets of wicks, do that four times and get 8-12 set of strand bunch, and just rolled them together tight on my finger and that was enough. Now I don't even have to take few strands out after putting the wick through to avoid strangling because they're more compact this way. Juice transfers much better than 4x1mm setup.
I've only done this on my A7 so far but soon will implement on Vapeonly and see how it performs.
Special thanks to Mackhaio.
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I use JOINT 14S on my vape only on a exact 2.3MM coil made on a 2.3mm drill bit. I got a whole set that goes from 2mm-3mm in .5mm increments. The vapeonly when its full I can only get about 10 draws of full flavor then I have to let it wick for about 30 seconds before I attack it again. When you get to 3/4 full though its fantastic. The 2.3mm coil at the first 10 minute from a fresh build I can't do 10second draws cause it has not expanded fully but once it does no problem chain vaping. I have not even tried playing with the new 12S 2.5-3mm lovepedal since I am getting consistent results with the joint method
Haven't drilled out my Igo l to use it for a BF but it sure works great as a dripper with an oval coil and a lot of hemp.
Hey, my 25 yrds of hemp showed up this weekend in the mail (better late than never)...gave it 2 monster 2 hr boils on the wood stove (cold this weekend up in N.W. Wa.)...the first boil made the water pretty yellowy brown, the second, water was crystal clear. It does dry stiff though eh?, the bamboo seems to get softer and fluffier with that kind of boiling. The beauty of the hemp is I installed it in my Quigsworth V1 and it actually wicks fast enough where I can almost chain it...I don't have a hemp pic but here's the mod on mesh
BJ, I also did some rebuilding this weekend...my bf drilled, non syringe lined iGo s is showing no signs of brass reaction...may be the juice, maybe the type of brass they used, who knows but so far so good
BJ, I also did some rebuilding this weekend...my bf drilled, non syringe lined iGo s is showing no signs of brass reaction...may be the juice, maybe the type of brass they used, who knows but so far so good
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