Just Ramie:

[dice57]

A lot depends on which flavor one is switching to, but for the most part, the flavor seems to change up after a few pulls. I just have so many tanks so run the same flavor of juice till I change the recipe or need to make more.

The High heat tolerance of Ramie is an excellent point. I get far more leniency with Ramie, even when the tanks totally dry the dry hits are well, mostly just dry, instead of burning it merely suffers fiber dry out and break down.

On the rayon thread, they talked about flash burning rayon. Guess if you light it up, burns like flash paper, instantaneous like. Must say though, using the rayon sample I received at 0.21 ohms on the Aqua, and it performs quite stellar. Now to see how long it lasts, coming up on 2 months with the same wick and build on both roses and their ramie wicks.

 

[kgs-wy]

Bit the bullet and purchased some from The Woolery, hopefully it's in stock and sent out tomo-... Er, it's 2:35 a.m., so I guess today... Anyway, if it's in stock and they get it sent out today, I should have it by Wednesday or Thursday. If it solves the wicking issues I'm havin' on my Russian 91%'s parallel coil, I'll be incredibly happy. And, if it's still givin' me fits, I'll take my drill to it's juice channels...

Either way, I know this is gonna find its way into my RDA, and I'll give my own review when it's all said and done.

Anyway, keep on vaping, everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

 

[xpen]

The more I use the ramie, the better I like it

This thing beats even the (non-medical grade) rayon in my dripping configurations.. It wicks well beyond my expectations, and keep in mind I've been using hemp for the past 18 months or so

My only 'complaint' is about the different way it renders flavors, especially the sweet/fruity ones (bitter-ish undertone), but it goes with the turf I guess.. If I came to appreciate the earthy note of hemp, after all, this is a breeze by comparison

Ramie wicks with the best of them, is highly heat resistant, easy to work with (who said it's too stiff??), frankly I see little left to be desired for a wick material.

Now finding the right balance of packing density, and still thinking you shouldn't pack it too much at all.

Sorry my beloved hemp, there's a new king of the hill for me..

 

[xpen]

PS: I'm experiencing severe cases of vaper's tongue with ramie and rayon.

These fibers seem to overload my taste buds in a relatively short time: by mid/late-afternoon I can't tell hazelnut from caramel any more.

It's probably due to the highly saturated vapor these materials can deliver, I believe; ahem, perhaps also the (much) increased daily e-liquid consumption may be playing a role, here..

 

[MadOzodi]

I love using ramie as the vertical wicks in my two drippers, both sportin dual "crazy 8" coils @ 0.5Ω. I find it best to let my ramie wicks soak in juice overnight before vaping 'em.

 

[kgs-wy]

Got my ramie tod-... Er, yesterday, since it is, once again, after midnight... Anywho, got it nice and cleaned, boiled thrice, and currently drying... Will be workin' with it in both my Igo-T and Russian 91%, hopin' to get the wicking for the 91% fairly quickly, 'cause I so, so, so wanna see that parallel coil wick nicely in it. If that works, I might just try to set it up vertical if this stuff wicks to expectations...

Anyway, keep on vaping, everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

 

[BJ43]

I love using ramie as the vertical wicks in my two drippers, both sportin dual "crazy 8" coils @ 0.5Ω. I find it best to let my ramie wicks soak in juice overnight before vaping 'em.

I agree on the soaking. I also start vaping at a lower wattage then after it breaks in, I increase the wattage. I do not have the patience to soak overnight..

 

[MadOzodi]

I agree on the soaking. I also start vaping at a lower wattage then after it breaks in, I increase the wattage. I do not have the patience to soak overnight..

I hear ya BJ...that's why I try not to re-wick my two drippers in the same day. I think I'll begin with vaping at a lower wattage, too...thanks!

 

[kgs-wy]

Ok, questions for the ramie masters... When you wick an with ramie, how 'tightly' should it slide within the coil? With cotton, to get it wicking right in a microcoil, I fed it through 'til it could slide fairly easily but with some resistance, with just a bit of 'poof' on either side of the coil when the cotton was 'unwrapped' from feeding, but I'm assuming this is a bit different, non? As to drippers, how much is necessary? With cotton, I pretty much had to fill the bottom of the damn thing with cotton, as well as snug the cotton up around about 1/3 to 1/2 of the coil's height to get really satisfying vapor production. Do you have to do that with ramie, or will the wicking difference make up the difference?

This is my old cotton wick, a 1Ω, 28 ga. Kanthal A-1 parallel coil, which I vaped happily at 23.5W:

And this is my first rammie wick, same coil, and about halfway through one set of dripping, which I have set to vape at 20.5 (still gives a nice vapor, flavor and throat hit, close to my old cotton setup, but not quite there, still playing with wattage a bit):

Is the darkening I'm seeing there normal for Ramie? Did I overdo the wicking around it, or put too much wick inside or maybe both? If it's too much wick around it, should I concentrate the bulk of the ramie on the other side so I have a 'juice reservoir', or should there still be some ramie underneath the coil? Or does that look fine for an RDA (Igo-T)? Or could it be the fact that ramie seems to have less warning for ya when it's running 'dry' than cotton and I've actually managed to scorch my wick? Figured I'd ask for advice with the 'simpler' to fix one than with the Russian, lol.

With Kayfun/Russians, is the standard, "Wet wick pasted towards the wall of the build deck, and away from the juice channel" fine, or do you actually want the ramie right over on top of/very close to the juice channels?

Sorry of the questions are retreads, but even though I've read the thread, either my sleep deprived brain (damn you, insomnia!) isn't letting me grasp what's being said in some posts, or I'm misunderstanding something, lol. Thanks ahead of time!

Keep on vapin' everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

 

[BJ43]

Here is my 1 ohm with ramie after a week of dripping at 20 to 25 watts. I leave the coil higher, not sitting in the ramie so the whole coil can produce vapor. Submerged coil just boils the juice and reduces vapor.

 

[kgs-wy]

Well, that's a start, to be sure. I raised my parallel up to about 2mm above the the wick floor, if you will, and it's vapin' a bit better. That said, with cotton, I was constantly gettin' dry hits with it raised as it is now. I'm goin' to re-wick it a li'l bit later, though, so I have a bit more of a 'straight input' on the wick. Thanks for the advice on that, BJ! Just outta curiosity, how 'tight' within your coil was the wick in the pic? If you moved the wick back and forth, would it slide with 'easy', 'moderate' or 'not quite moving the coil' force?

Anywho, keep on vaping, everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

 

[BJ43]

Well, that's a start, to be sure. I raised my parallel up to about 2mm above the the wick floor, if you will, and it's vapin' a bit better. That said, with cotton, I was constantly gettin' dry hits with it raised as it is now. I'm goin' to re-wick it a li'l bit later, though, so I have a bit more of a 'straight input' on the wick. Thanks for the advice on that, BJ! Just outta curiosity, how 'tight' within your coil was the wick in the pic? If you moved the wick back and forth, would it slide with 'easy', 'moderate' or 'not quite moving the coil' force?

Anywho, keep on vaping, everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

Moderate....

 

[kgs-wy]

Ah, I went with about smack dab between moderate and coil moving. Thanks a lot, dude, hopefully it wasn't too annoying helpin' the insomniac ramie noob who is just a bit too brain dead for his own good... Definitely likin' the vape a lot more now. This stuff wick incredibly well, and doesn't get dry 'til it's, well, dry, even with the tighter wicking I did. Flavor was tinged with something somewhat earthy, not quite as noticeable as hemp, but was gone after about 10 middling length pulls. Flavor overall I'm guessing is about 8% to 10% better -- 'fuller bodied' if you will -- than with cotton. Definitely my new wicking material, 'specially once I master it.

Keep on vapin', everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

 

[kgs-wy]

Ok, finally gettin' the hang of ramie, just have to remember to juice more often in my RDA 'cause, at least with the builds I've done, it either doesn't hold quite as much liquid as cotton, or the increased flow rate eats up more juice... I'm thinkin' the latter? Based on how quick my drippin' bottle (an old Russian full size needle top bottle, lol) went down, that is... I think I finally found that happy "moderate" force BJ43 mentioned, 'cause I don't get any hints of 'burnt' flavor -- which is lighter than cotton by far -- 'til I'm literally needin' to drip 12-14 drops into my RDA. Thanks for that, BJ! Still, oddly enough, the ramie's takin' longer to 'break in', as far as flavor and wattage tolerance goes, so I reboiled the remainder of the ~20" section I boiled three more times (did a full hour this time), so hopefully that'll help out quite a lot.

As for my Russian 91%, after tryin' it several times with several different configurations, I determined it was the juice flow channels. Rammie and cotton were both lacking in the flow department, so I finally broke down and took a good, close look at the Russian full size I have, as well as some Russians, both full size and 91%, online. My juice channels were bit smaller than those I saw online. Took the only 1.5mm drill bit I had, chucked it up and carefully bored them out ~.5mm deeper into the deck, and boom, flowin' like my old Russian full size. Tested with cotton through a 1.2Ω, 1/16" microcoil, then with Rammie, now testin' in a 0.9Ω parallel coil from 30ga. Kanthal A-1, workin' well. With ramie, I've had to open my airflow control to prevent flooding, which IMO is a damn good thing!

Thanks a lot for the tips, guess I did just misunderstand somethin' about the earlier posts, after all...

Anyway, keep on vapin', everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

 

[kgs-wy]

Ok, guys, got a question (or four... ): even after reboiling my ramie, I'm still gettin' an almost ashy taste from it from time to time. It's not like when I get a dry hit, it just... Pops up randomly. Is that 'cause I haven't boiled it enough, 'cause I haven't dried it enough before use, 'cause it's too loose in the coil or some other thing altogether? I got my ramie from The Woolery, it looks as described, and said it was ramie, so... Dunno? Happens mostly in my RDA, but from time to time pops up in my Russian (which is flowing beautifully now, and tastes awesome except for those random ... moments)... Any help would be awesome, and if it's just something I have to learn to get over or improve my wicking to eliminate, please let me know. Thanks ahead of time!

Keep on vaping, everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

 

[xpen]

I've noticed that the ramie taste (assuming that's what you're mentioning) surfaces when the wick is getting dry, similarly to hemp. Not a dry hit yet, just an early warning of an impending dry hit. I find that useful with drippers, by the way.

So my guess would be that from time to time you're experiencing a reduced flow of liquid to the wick (chainvaping? ) or that you've got some hot spots in the coil.

PS: my ramie came from The Woolery as well, FWIW.

 

[silverbullit]

My new favorite dripper. TOBH Atty 26650, 24ga. dual 6wrap, .299ohm Ramie.
And yea, keep it wet.

 

[kgs-wy]

Hmmm, interesting find on my part. I recently ordered a Rose V2, and at the same time I ordered that, I ordered in some 0.6mm x 0.07mm flat Kanthal. Got 'em in yesterday, but didn't have a chance to play 'til this morning. So after doin' a thorough cleanin' of the Rose, I made myself some Mundy's Magic Wire. I was guessing I'd probably have to use cotton or such due to the shape and many crevices in MMW, but decided to try it with ramie. Made up ~1/16" micro, I think 5.5 wraps, came out to 1.1Ω on my Rose V2. Wicked it as I would a standard coil, and was pleasantly surprised. Might have to pack a li'l bit more into it to get the full impact, or maybe a li'l less, not sure. Probably gonna do a 'side by side' between ramie and cotton in my MMW microcoil after this tank's empty, just to see how different they are, but it's vapin' pretty alright now, and that makes me happy.

Anyway, just figured I'd share some thoughts. Keep on vapin', everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy

 

[dice57]

I love ramie in the Rose2's. It's very responsive to juice control adjustments. Found that after a tank or two, the ramie fiber firms up, once all the cell walls get fully saturated. It's like a mussel flexing. My current build in one Rose2 is a 0.40 ohm Vertical mounted V-twin coil, inverted. Pushing it at 5.5 volts and Vaping quite nice. Here's a pic of the wick and coil it replace after 2 months of solid use.

That's a tri-twisted 28 coil, came in at 0.2 ohms. After rinsing out the juice gunk, the Ramie was in remarkably great shape, could of easily reused the wick for another 2 months. lmao. Think I did cut off the tails for the spare juice ports

 

[kgs-wy]

I've noticed that the ramie taste (assuming that's what you're mentioning) surfaces when the wick is getting dry, similarly to hemp. Not a dry hit yet, just an early warning of an impending dry hit. I find that useful with drippers, by the way.

So my guess would be that from time to time you're experiencing a reduced flow of liquid to the wick (chainvaping? ) or that you've got some hot spots in the coil.

PS: my ramie came from The Woolery as well, FWIW.

Missed this 'til toda-... Er, this morning, lol. I kinda figured that might be part of my problem with my RDA, since those have to wick from within their own length and from the RDA's well, too, but I figured I'd ask in case mine was a semi-unusual case, lol... Now I can confirm that's what's happening. And, chainvaping? Um... Yeah, you could say that...

Didn't get one hit like that from my Rose V2, and it's rapidly becoming my go to RBA. I'll prolly keep my Russian around as a back up -- especially with the near overkill of the extension kit -- after I do a bit more work with it (juice channels on the side of the deck still need a bit of work and cleanup). Still flowin' better than it was, so I'm not unhappy with it, just happier with my Rose...

Silverbullit, that TOBH build looks sick, man. Awesome job.

Nice, dice57. If I'm not too busy today, I'm gonna try a vertical in my Rose after I finish off my current tank, though I'm not sure if I'll use the MWW, but I might... Hmmm, decisions, decisions...

Keep on vapin', everyone!

-Laters...!
kgs-wy