Just saying hi, and looking to be pointed in the right direction!

[Yves]

Agree is why I said get an address from the contact.....and check them out

 

[Bangers&Mash]

Agree is why I said get an address from the contact.....and check them out

If I have the time whilst I'm over there to visit any of these places I will, but I highly doubt it. I'll ask a couple of my staff there to ring around and do some research for me. Then it's a matter of trying to find the time in these short 4 weeks to visit them. Let you know how I go.

 

[NGIB]

I have to disagree that the "Twist is a lot longer".

I just measured a joyetech 650mah eGo-T battery, and a 650mah eGo-C Twist battery, from the bottom to the top of the 510 connection. I refuse to discuss cones, atomizers, or any other attachment for what I think are obvious reasons.

The eGo-T is 3.7945" long, and the eGo-C Twist is 3.8530" long. That is a difference of .0585"; less than 1/16 of an inch.

I'm using a 650 mah eGo (it's actually a KGO, but I have a pair of real Joye eGo's and they are identical) battery right now and it is just a fraction over 2.75 inches long. I have no idea where you came up with 3.7945 inches long. It is a full inch shorter than you say it is.

I gave my 650 mah Twists to my son but the next time I'm at his place I'll snap a picture of them together so you'll have visual evidence. To show I really have an authentic Joye eGo-T 650 mah battery, here's a picture along with an EPower 14650 and a Mini VTube from Apollo:

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

While in China check out Healthcabin.net for stuff. Located in China, is an ECF listed vendor and has a very large and loyal following. I've ordered from and have been very pleased. In regards to not be being worried about the cost of PV stuff. I always drove a Lincoln. Now retired and drive a Grand Marquis LS. Basically the same A's a Lincoln but much cheaper. Also didn't like the new Lincolns A's the quality wasn't there. A's for your order buy some wall adapters A's some have fried third USB and/ or MB while charging PVs.
Cheers.

Thanks Yves. I will be stocking up on hardware when I'm there do you have any suggestions or know of any place that I can get GENUINE supplies from? I have lived in China for 4 years and one thing I know, they are the masters of copy!

 

[Bangers&Mash]

While in China check out Healthcabin.net for stuff. Located in China, is an ECF listed vendor and has a very large and loyal following. I've ordered from and have been very pleased. In regards to not be being worried about the cost of PV stuff. I always drove a Lincoln. Now retired and drive a Grand Marquis LS. Basically the same A's a Lincoln but much cheaper. Also didn't like the new Lincolns A's the quality wasn't there. A's for your order buy some wall adapters A's some have fried third USB and/ or MB while charging PVs.
Cheers.

Will keep that in mind thanks Vapoor

 

[Wishdog]

Could you please share your reasoning behind recommending the fixed-voltage eGo battery over the variable-voltage eGo Twist? (Or are you simply unaware of the existence of the Joyetech Twist, which is certainly forgiveable).

Ignorance. But I see so many people here who don't go variable voltage, so I tend to think it's mostly an advanced user thing.

Edited to add: Well, a lot has been said since that post. Not so sure my post matters, but I was asked a question.

 

[Flyer]

This thread (and other recent threads) seems to have quirky degraded into another exercise in bullying rather than helping a newbie. Why is it necessary to state and restate an opinion so many times in the same thread? I suspect the OP got the point the first time and should be allowed to make his/her own choice rather than be hammered into submission of one person's point of view. Geesh...enough!

 

[Bangers&Mash]

Ok well I finally did it just placed my first order

Got some flavours from a local supplier so I can get vaping ASAP. Will start really researching the juice side of things tomorrow so I can get some yummy stuff from different vendors.

In case anyone want's to know what im starting out with here's the list.
1x 1000mah ego twist
2x 650mah twist
10x Boge 510D XL LR Cartomizer - Stainless Steel 2.0 (will be doing the slotting myself thanks to a pbusardo tut)
5x SmokTech Dual-Coil 3.5ml 2.5 ohm Tank Kit (Aluminium-DCT)
4x SmokTech Dual-Coil 6ml 2.5 ohm Tank Kit (Aluminium-DCT)
4xSmokTech eGo Shorty Cone for 3.5ml DCT
4x SmokTech eGo Shorty Cone for 3.5ml DCT
Cherry vape ming tips ( couldn't help myself)

Cauldron ejuice
Key Lime Pie
Death by Delicious
Peach Tea
Black Briar
Witch Apple

That should see me set for a while I would say. I got all my gear from Australia
Is it excessive for a newbie? Did it cost me slightly more buying locally? Maybe, but its less than half of what I spent last month on stinky analogs. It will also arrive to my doorstep in 2 days, if I have any DOA things it's only a phone call away and another 2 days for replacement, it's convenient, the owner of the business was super helpful and even threw in a few freebies, plus I'm supporting the good folk locally with business. In the future will I buy internationally? Absolutely.
I'm satisfied that I have a very good foundation and will be adding to it shortly no doubt.
At the end of the day the goal is to get of the smokes and try a healthier alternative and that's what I've done. I think I'll be stalking the postie over the next 2 days.

Thanks again for the help everyone and can't wait to have my first vape!

 

[John D in CT]

I'm using a 650 mah eGo (it's actually a KGO, but I have a pair of real Joye eGo's and they are identical) battery right now and it is just a fraction over 2.75 inches long. I have no idea where you came up with 3.7945 inches long. It is a full inch shorter than you say it is.

I gave my 650 mah Twists to my son but the next time I'm at his place I'll snap a picture of them together so you'll have visual evidence. To show I really have an authentic Joye eGo-T 650 mah battery, here's a picture along with an EPower 14650 and a Mini VTube from Apollo:

View attachment 113868

Maybe you have a better idea now.

And I would advise you against stating something as a fact, only to have it turn out not to be a fact. That is very, very bad for one's credibility.

Also, I had better things to do this morning than defend myself from sniping, as it appears I also have to do with "Flyer".

I don't know exactly what particular bug has crawled up some posteriors around here, but perhaps it could be killed with many, many stiff drinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCDk1jDXZnM

 

[NGIB]

Are you denying that a standard 650 mah eGo class battery is less than 3 inches long? I can use a ruler myself and I have this battery not 6 inches from my keyboard. Moot point as you will just say the laws of physics do not apply to you.

Your entire post quoted just for reference:

I have to disagree that the "Twist is a lot longer".

I just measured a Joyetech 650mah eGo-T battery, and a 650mah eGo-C Twist battery, from the bottom to the top of the 510 connection. I refuse to discuss cones, atomizers, or any other attachment for what I think are obvious reasons.

The eGo-T is 3.7945" long, and the eGo-C Twist is 3.8530" long. That is a difference of .0585"; less than 1/16 of an inch.

And I have absolutely, positively no idea why the Volt keeps coming up. I have stated my question consistently and repeatedly. It involves the recommendation of an xGo fixed voltage battery over an eGo variable voltage battery. The Volt is in a different class.

A brief look back at its origins and history:

Someone: "I'd go (and did) with two EGO-T batteries ..... "

Me: "Could you please share your reasoning behind recommending the fixed-voltage eGo battery over the variable-voltage eGo Twist? (Or are you simply unaware of the existence of the Joyetech Twist, which is certainly forgiveable).

The Volt does not belong in what I consider the crux of this discussion, and to me, that is: is there a compelling reason to recommend to someone a fixed-voltage xGo-class device over a variable-voltage xGo class device; namely, the Joyetech eGo-C Twist. If so, what is it".

Me: "So what is the rationale for not recommending a Twist over a kGo or eGo?"

Me: "And I still welcome a compelling argument for recommending an "xGo" fixed-voltage battery over a variable voltage eGo-class battery, which currently consists of a single device - the Joyetech eGo-C Twist".

Me: "This brings me squarely back to my main question; what is the compelling reason or reasons for recommending a fixed voltage device over a variable voltage device to someone just starting out?"

Someone: "The Volt must remain in the discussion and in consideration for a first PV. I know at least one person who quit with a Volt as a first PV and is still using it after several months without smoking".

Me: "The Volt has absolutely no place in offering compelling compelling reasons for recommending a fixed-voltage eGo-class battery over a variable voltage one. That is the direct question that seems to keep getting danced around. And it is not my fault that the Twist is currently the only one there is".

Someone: "There is no compelling reason to recommend a variable voltage APV over a regulated single voltage APV for the prospective owner of a first PV". [This is not my question].

Me: "That very questionable (IMO) opinion begs the question - "What is the compelling reason or reasons for recommending a fixed-voltage eGo-class device over a variable voltage eGo-class device?" I ain't buyin' "decreased battery life ..... "

*****

So no, 1/16 of an inch doesn't quite "measure up". The question still stands, and another is added. Why is this such a sensitive "friggin' " issue? Can we try to keep this as scientific and dispassionate as possible, for everyone's sake?

 

[John D in CT]

Are you denying that a standard 650 mah eGo class battery is less than 3 inches long? I can use a ruler myself and I have this battery not 6 inches from my keyboard. Moot point as you will just say the laws of physics do not apply to you.

Your entire post quoted just for reference:

Yep, I am beginning to think with a great deal of certainty that you are correct about the length of the Joyetech eGo 650mah battery, and that I had confused my 1000mah eGo battery, being quite a bit shorter than my 1000mah eGo passthrough, for a 650. You are right, and I am wrong.

That has somewhat alarming ramifications for me, since it is as applicable to me as it would have been to you that one's credibility is indeed damaged when a non-fact is stated as one. I will obviously have to redouble my efforts to remain as factual as humanly possible.

That said, you are free to juxtapose aforementioned insect and the comment "Moot point as you will just say the laws of physics do not apply to you... "

You are also free to try to ascertain the source of your hostility toward me, as evidenced by what I consider to be an extremely nasty and unwarranted comment.

 

[John D in CT]

This thread (and other recent threads) seems to have quirky degraded into another exercise in bullying rather than helping a newbie. Why is it necessary to state and restate an opinion so many times in the same thread? I suspect the OP got the point the first time and should be allowed to make his/her own choice rather than be hammered into submission of one person's point of view. Geesh...enough!

Who is the "bully" of whom you speak?

 

[NGIB]

Yep, I am beginning to think with a great deal of certainty that you are correct about the length of the Joyetech eGo 650mah battery, and that I had confused my 1000mah eGo battery, being quite a bit shorter than my 1000mah eGo passthrough, for a 650. You are right, and I am wrong.

That has somewhat alarming ramifications for me, since it is as applicable to me as it would have been to you that one's credibility is indeed damaged when a non-facted is stated as one. I will obviously have to redouble my efforts to remain as factual as humanly possible.

That said, you are free to juxtapose aforementioned insect and the comment "Moot point as you will just say the laws of physics do not apply to you... "

You are also free to try to ascertain the source of your hostility toward me, as evidenced by what I consider to be an extremely nasty and unwarranted comment.

No hostility - you were just flat out wrong and instead of saying so, you posted this (I took the liberty of highlighting your "sniping"):

View attachment 113868

Maybe you have a better idea now.

And I would advise you against stating something as a fact, only to have it turn out not to be a fact. That is very, very bad for one's credibility.

Also, I had better things to do this morning than defend myself from sniping, as it appears I also have to do with "Flyer".

I don't know exactly what particular bug has crawled up some posteriors around here, but perhaps it could be killed with many, many stiff drinks.

Terms of Endearment (3/9) Movie CLIP - Aurora Has a Drink (1983) HD - YouTube

 

[Koman]

I'm using a 650 mah eGo (it's actually a KGO, but I have a pair of real Joye eGo's and they are identical) battery right now and it is just a fraction over 2.75 inches long. I have no idea where you came up with 3.7945 inches long. It is a full inch shorter than you say it is.

I gave my 650 mah Twists to my son but the next time I'm at his place I'll snap a picture of them together so you'll have visual evidence. To show I really have an authentic Joye eGo-T 650 mah battery, here's a picture along with an EPower 14650 and a Mini VTube from Apollo:

These look pretty damn good!

 

[Flyer]

I'm quite sure the person or persons know who they are. In fact, I'm sure everyone who has read this thread knows. As I said before...enough.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Pitiful that this thread has degenerated into a pi$$ing match.
Maybe time to get this thread back on track and realize the original point....to assist someone in their quest to kick the stinkies to the curb.
Congrats Bangers&Mash on completing your order and I wish you the very best of Luck and Success.
Cheers.

Ok well I finally did it just placed my first order

Got some flavours from a local supplier so I can get vaping ASAP. Will start really researching the juice side of things tomorrow so I can get some yummy stuff from different vendors.

In case anyone want's to know what im starting out with here's the list.
1x 1000mah ego twist
2x 650mah twist
10x Boge 510D XL LR Cartomizer - Stainless Steel 2.0 (will be doing the slotting myself thanks to a pbusardo tut)
5x SmokTech Dual-Coil 3.5ml 2.5 ohm Tank Kit (Aluminium-DCT)
4x SmokTech Dual-Coil 6ml 2.5 ohm Tank Kit (Aluminium-DCT)
4xSmokTech eGo Shorty Cone for 3.5ml DCT
4x SmokTech eGo Shorty Cone for 3.5ml DCT
Cherry vape ming tips ( couldn't help myself)

Cauldron ejuice
Key Lime Pie
Death by Delicious
Peach Tea
Black Briar
Witch Apple

That should see me set for a while I would say. I got all my gear from Australia
Is it excessive for a newbie? Did it cost me slightly more buying locally? Maybe, but its less than half of what I spent last month on stinky analogs. It will also arrive to my doorstep in 2 days, if I have any DOA things it's only a phone call away and another 2 days for replacement, it's convenient, the owner of the business was super helpful and even threw in a few freebies, plus I'm supporting the good folk locally with business. In the future will I buy internationally? Absolutely.
I'm satisfied that I have a very good foundation and will be adding to it shortly no doubt.
At the end of the day the goal is to get of the smokes and try a healthier alternative and that's what I've done. I think I'll be stalking the postie over the next 2 days.

Thanks again for the help everyone and can't wait to have my first vape!

 

[DC2]

In case anyone want's to know what im starting out with here's the list.
1x 1000mah ego twist
2x 650mah twist
10x Boge 510D XL LR Cartomizer - Stainless Steel 2.0 (will be doing the slotting myself thanks to a pbusardo tut)
5x SmokTech Dual-Coil 3.5ml 2.5 ohm Tank Kit (Aluminium-DCT)
4x SmokTech Dual-Coil 6ml 2.5 ohm Tank Kit (Aluminium-DCT)
4xSmokTech eGo Shorty Cone for 3.5ml DCT
4x SmokTech eGo Shorty Cone for 3.5ml DCT
Cherry vape ming tips ( couldn't help myself)

I might be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that dual coils don't play so nice with variable voltage.

Cauldron ejuice
Key Lime Pie
Death by Delicious
Peach Tea
Black Briar
Witch Apple

You probably should get a couple of tobacco flavors.

A lot of people find they don't like them, or would rather vape something different.
But there are most definitely people who are much more satisfied with a good tobacco flavor.

So given there is no way to know ahead of time, better to be safe than sorry.

 

[John D in CT]

I'm quite sure the person or persons know who they are. In fact, I'm sure everyone who has read this thread knows. As I said before...enough.

I will be the sole judge of when I have given a sufficiency of assistance to my fellow vapers. Now please back off; you are way, way, way out of line. I will report any further off-topic harassment by you.

And does the apparent fact that the OP has shown appreciation for, and largely acted upon, the advice that I've offered have any impact at all on your judgment of the quantity and/or quality of what I've said in this thread?

As for "~anyone reading this thread knowing that I'm a bully who needs to shut up~", someone posted this in my "Visitor Messages" last night:

"Pat yourself on the back for being the ECF member we all try to be. Blown away by your helpful posts to the new vapers".

That's not why I do it, but it's nice to get messages like that, instead of big bags of unwelcome and (IMO) uncalled-for crappola. [Am I angry? Yes I am].

Lastly, do you really want to discourage me from trying to help other people, with no agenda other than to help them get the best vape they possibly can? Is discouraging other members from participating in this forum in its, or anyone's, best interest?

No hostility - you were just flat out wrong and instead of saying so, you posted this (I took the liberty of highlighting your "sniping"):

"Are you denying that a standard 650 mah eGo class battery is less than 3 inches long? I can use a ruler myself and I have this battery not 6 inches from my keyboard. Moot point as you will just say the laws of physics do not apply to you".

I think that even the most casual of readers of this thread would be of the opinion that I posted that before I realized my error - that of confusing my 1000 with a 650. I also think that I deserve some credit for standing up and admitting that I had made a mistake. I make them from time to time, and have little trouble acknowledging them when they occur.

As for "no hostility" - it seems to me that your implication that I have little or no regard for the laws of physics embodies just that. I find that particularly uncalled for because I have a deep and abiding respect for science and the scientific method as the best - and arguably the only - way of determining the true nature of things.

*****

B & M -

I'm glad to see you axed one of the 1000mah batteries - they are just wayyyyy long, as I was going to recommend that you get just one. As Dana says, the chargers seem to have disappeared from your list. Two would probably suffice, but three would obviously give you backup for your backup, and you might just find yourself charging all three batteries at one time.

I'd like to see you get at least 20 more Boge single coil cartos - maybe a mix of 2.0's and 3.0's. The 3.0's will give you better battery life by bringing the amps down, but the 2.0's will give you a little extra heat that might be needed for some juices.

Oh ... and MORE JUICE. That's what this is all about, really. Once you have proper hardware, it becomes 100% about the juice, and its quality (flavor, throat hit, vapor production) and quantity (you don't want to run out).

Other than that, you look to be in pretty good shape.

Sorry about the distractions; I'm trying to be good, honest I am.

*****

Final note; it is a goal of mine to forgive others, and a desire of mine to be forgiven. The level of offense - perceived or real - is irrelevant.

 

[Dana A]

OP, I did not see a charger for the Ego's in your list. Also try some single coil cartos to go in your tanks. 3.0 ohm single coil is very popular to use with variable voltage. I don't know for sure if the ego batts can handle dual coils or not. I think you are totally set up for success minus the charger. You will be able to fine tune your vape with each different liquid with the twist. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask more questions if you have them.

 

[SteveD3]

I see Mrs. T in my future. What are some "must try" flavors from her?

Like Coffee? Try the Espresso from her, it's really strong. I mix it with some of her Mocha for a rounded hit. Also, Caribbean Dream is a good one from her. She's famous for her Snickerdoodle (sp?) (not a fave of mine personally) and other dessert flavors.